1965 sms set...best i've ran across***update with haze free image***

lasvegasteddy

***update in hand***
so the cutest lil note and $1 in a kraft envelope accompanied this...saying here's return of overage on shipping
$9 with a 1990 mint set too
just in from chain towing a relative's car some 40 miles...there it is
real slow being tired helped...to flip it over..yayy...not as nice as obverse but it's hiding still under haze...which outweighs that dreaded milk that makes ya cry
took some prelim images...enjoy if ya do...but it's off to a dear friend...as the ana says...only professkinals can dip...dr.teddy i'm not
i'll make a new post in the future...images in pre-grade...haze free...with grade results




no reverse image so yet again...please-please-pwease let it be 2 sided...anyways...1965 sms set i got that makes my heart go pitter-pat
nothing like dheath's set but best i've run across...enjoy if ya do

joeykoins

Hi teddy, the Kenn. looks Cameo! You know it'll look even better/frostier outside the cellophane. Good Luck!

Russ

The Kennedy looks deep cameo. Of course, that's based on an image and we all know that images don't always reflect reality.

Russ, NCNE

lasvegasteddy

maybe dheath will post his set...showing what a true...best i've seen in 1965 sms sets" is all about
his image in as found condition has major drool factor

joeykoins

teddy," FG "? If no "FG",it might be even better than a true Cam. OOPS! my mistake, the "no F.G." is on the 66,not the 65,sorry.

MICHAELDIXON

I hope the picture is of the actual set you receive.

ModCrewman

Obverse looks incredible.

Here's my SP67CAM for comparison.

keets

hey Ted?? when you open a package do you hear that Drum-Roll like i do?

lasvegasteddy

<< <i>hey Ted?? when you open a package do you hear that Drum-Roll like i do? >>


i just make sure there's no lil kids around if i use my camera on my phone...
you bet thou...coins are better then catnip...well maybe not that super kitty acme brand just released...meep-meep...

SanctionII

From the photo the obverse frost looks very thick and the fields look like they are hazed over. The cello impairs the reality of the fields and the devices, so that makes it hard to judge. However, I would venture to guess that if what appears to be haze on the obverse fields is in fact haze (specifically the light, milky white haze that can easily be removed without damaging the coin) you may find that you have really nice, deep, watery, black mirrors.

If so, and if the reverse is the same as the obverse you will inhale to the nth degree and a sucking sound will permeate this thread.

Keep us posted and good luck.

Bochiman

Fingers crossed for ya!
Not many posts/threads that make Russ actually bother to reply

jmski52

I think that half has distinct possibilities! Way to go!

DHeath

That is a strong looking half. It appears to have well-frosted devices and true mirrors. If that is true, and the reverse matches, that is a money coin. I'll dig around for the pic you mentioned, but the coin you posted appears every bit as nice in the sellers pic. Good luck, and post a follow-up pic when you get it in hand!

crazyhounddog

It looks very nice from where I'm sitting!!

keyman64

Let us know when you rip that thing open! Use some MS70 on that Half very very very gentle via q-tip.....rinse well pat/air dry gently....then take some fresh photos for us!

Tdec1000

<< <i>Let us know when you rip that thing open! Use some MS70 on that Half very very very gentle via q-tip.....rinse well pat/air dry gently....then take some fresh photos for us! >>



No qtip!!! It will leave hairlines!! Just swirl the coin in it.

cladking

I've seen a lot of better sets.

I haven't seen too many better half dollars.

keyman64

<< <i>

<< <i>Let us know when you rip that thing open! Use some MS70 on that Half very very very gentle via q-tip.....rinse well pat/air dry gently....then take some fresh photos for us! >>



No qtip!!! It will leave hairlines!! Just swirl the coin in it. >>

Yes, you should be very careful! I have seen IDIOTS hairline coins with a qtip before...but if you are very careful and merely use the qtip to apply the MS70 to the coin or lightly roll it on the coin you should have no worries....of course, it is your coin and you have to only take the risks that you are comfortable with. Good luck!

coinsarefun

That half looks pretty dang good!!!!!

Cameonut

That's a great set. My experience with these is that if the obverse has frost, so does the reverse.

Here a a dcam for comparison.

19Lyds

I had high hopes for this one:



But, only a 67CAM.

The op's coin would do well with a straight up dip and fugetabout-da-qtips!

lasvegasteddy

"But, only a 67CAM."
lol
1965's are tough...congrats are in order by all means

keets

nice coin, Lee, with only slight frost weakness on the reverse shield. your coin only highlights the recent Jefferson SMS thread's most important point about these coins----for the DEEp Cameo designation to be assigned the most important aspect is clarity of the fields.

SkyMan

Best of luck with the set.

SanctionII

I concur with Keets.

Regardless of how thick the frosted devices are on an SMS coin, unless the fields are deep, black and mirrored the coin will not get a DCAM designation.

This is illustrated by the photos of the three coins posted by Modcrewman, 19lyds and Cameonut. From the photographs (which concededly may be misleading) the two CAM coins belonging to Modcrewman and 19lyds have fields that are much lower in quality than the fields present on the DCAM coin belonging to Cameonut.

Looking forward to more pictures of the OP coin once it is cut out of the cello and given a bath. Hopefully a two sided Moose will emerge.

19Lyds

<< <i> From the photographs (which concededly may be misleading) the two CAM coins belonging to Modcrewman and 19lyds have fields that are much lower in quality........... >>

DHeath

Here's one I showed MadMarty, Keets, and a few of the other board members at the Pittsburgh ANA a few years ago before submitting. It has great mirrors, but the contrast is too light for the dcam designation. It graded MS68 Cam.

SanctionII

It is just not fair that all of the really, really great SMS Cameo and DCAM coins are owned by persons other than me (including DHeath and Cameonut). I am left with the dregs and dreck

Gorgeous coin DHeath, the mirrored fields are amazing and look close to the quality you find on a silver proof Kennedy.

DHeath

Thank you very much. Now, if only we can all find nice dcam examples for our collections. I'm hopeful Teddy has done just that.

ModCrewman

<< <i>It is just not fair that all of the really, really great SMS Cameo and DCAM coins are owned by persons other than me (including DHeath and Cameonut). I am left with the dregs and dreck >>

Before anyone starts feeling bad for poor Kevin, I figured I'd better add this photo of his 1967 Washington.

SanctionII

Well,.............................. I guess I have one SMS coin that possibly, on a good day, might be good enough to warrant a DCAM designation

DHeath

Man, that's nice.

lasvegasteddy

<< <i>Man, that's nice. >>


"as i look at your avatar"
knowing you got that picture of that set you scored somewhere's that should be displayed every once in awhile...incase newbies never get the chance to see such beauty

keets

It is just not fair that all of the really, really great SMS Cameo and DCAM coins are owned by persons other than me (including DHeath and Cameonut)

you have to understand that Don had an incredible run of a few years where he found some amazing SMS coins. actually, there were quite a few members that made really, really big finds during the first half of the decade, most probably due to the spike in prices, PM's starting the slow climb and long term holders of Proof/Mint Sets finally selling them. those might be called the Halcyon days of my collection: i found more great coins and medals during the 2001-2005 period than i have since by a long-shot. i regret that the slow economy resulted in a need to sell several coins but many remain.

SanctionII

Looking at the photo of the SMS set again, specifically the dime, leads me to suspect that the dime may also be a winner. The obverse of the dime looks like it has frosted devices and maybe even mirrored fields. The dime also has a silver color to it instead of clad color. It looks more like the half than it does the quarter. Silver color on a clad SMS dime indicates thick frosted devices. When LVT receives the set I hope he gets lucky on the dime and the half.

BTW my 1967 quarter was found by me many years ago raw in an OGP set. Imy jaw dropped when I saw it and I bought the set asap for bid.

lasvegasteddy

did you slab that 1/4..?
what did it grade?
it's up there in sms land...i love how toning can aide contrast too...but that is
solid mirrors n frost...i see no problem with that nesting in dcam

true story there keets
i knew nothing about sms sets till tha cat drug me in here
it was hard not to fall in love with tha sms gang still prowling in 2006

it'd be hard to crown one out of that crowd...alltime best "to me" any o hoot

was dheath posting up that 1965 set

anyways...postman can't deliver quick enough today as tracking shows it's here

thanks for all the replies...even if 1sided or like russ re-enforces...it was just a pretty one side shot but other coins sent
it's been a hoot
drum rolls can be better then dice rolls in vegas i swear

SanctionII

LVT.

The quarter remains raw, residing in a Capital style holder containing my best Cameo examples of the 15 coins in the 1965-67 SMS set. I have been putting this set together from raw SMS coins I have found over the years. All 15 coins possibly would receive at least a CAM designation [though the fields on the 1965 and 1967 dimes; and the fields on the 1965 and 1967 cents may not be mirrored enough] with the 1967 quarter and the three nickels being possible DCAMs.

I am still in upgrade mode and at some date in the future I will be satisfied with the quality of the set and will then have them graded.

The SMS sets are fascinating, due to the wide variety of finishes/looks you can find [including CAM/DCAMs; brilliant, satin, plain old ugly, toned, etc.].

SaorAlba

I have one that is even nicer than the OP's - no images though it is put away.

Bochiman

<< <i>I have one that is even nicer than the OP's - no images though it is put away. >>



Ummm...ok. Um, "thanks" for letting us know?

AUandAG

anyways...postman can't deliver quick enough today as tracking shows it's here


Yes, had it re-routed to my place and sorry, but no cam on the reverse. So, it's on it's
way to your door today.

bob

devious

Any word yet, LVT? The anticipation is killing me.

I did pick this 1955 proof set up recently and I too am waiting to see whether or not the reverse (the half) looks as good as the obverse in the images. At the end of the night, we have something to show for our gambles...unlike when I go to the casino *grin*

lasvegasteddy

my thoughts
really has a good chance of 65dcam...maybe
black mirrors under the haze...strong frost on both sides...my hopes are very high as that'd be such a club to be part of...
"making a 1965 dcam club"
the rest of the coins are in a trash pile i'll give away...nothing special
anyways as much as i can't shoot coins yet...these are my images till my friend removes all that haze...he can shoot great images too...coin was sent an hour later

AUandAG

Bet that will look great without the haze!!

bob

ModCrewman

Congratulations, let me add:

DHeath

Teddy, that's a money coin. The obverse contrast is stunning, and the mirrors look great. The reverse is well matched. PM sent.

Cameonut

<< <i>Teddy, that's a money coin. The obverse contrast is stunning, and the mirrors look great. The reverse is well matched. PM sent. >>



I agree - should clean up nicely. Would like to see a pic after the haze is gone.

lasvegasteddy

my friend will shoot me images...haze free and ready for the grading gods...i'll post um...real pictures in about 4 days with no haze
gosh
some big players helping my hopes here i swear...
happy 4th of july you all

btw
i upgraded my camera set-up a lil
kind of a drag...i thought the nickel looked hopeful...these images are in as found condition...(i'm not even going to bother dipping it)...total dcam mirrors...almost zero frost...in the scrap pile it goes
almost had a nickel in there but i guess the heat of vegas...melted the frost

georgiacop50

chilly!

ModCrewman

That will definitely be a winner after the bath. Love it.

Connecticoin

Might want to try NCS instead of a DIY bath. I know Russ used NCS for one of his cameo 67 SMSs a few years ago, came out great (graded MS67 DCAM)

Russ

Yep, that one looks like a winner. Congratulations! These days coins like that are very few, and very far between.

Russ, NCNE