Sorry - Not even close on your cents. If you bought the Flynn Book then you need to study and understand the diagnostics. In fact, Do not even study the rim part - just study the markers for all they dates. Then go to the PCGS true views and look at the pictures for those same date/markers.
WS
Proud recipient of the coveted PCGS Forum "You Suck" Award Thursday July 19, 2007 11:33 PM and December 30th, 2011 at 8:50 PM.
In my opinion, no matte proof 1917 cents exist. The mint was already having issues with the cost of making proofs, and the Director forbade making any proofs on October 17th of 1916. To sandblast a pair of dies, use the medal press, and remove those coins from the mint unnoticed would be a large undertaking, unlikely to be done with the Director expressly forbidding it.
@ColdSummer310 said:
Bump. Lol
Just got "Lincoln Cent Matte Proofs" -Kevin Flynn. Amazing Book I'd definitely recommended it.
Crazy, I purchased his book
before I got this 1909 which I believe is an MPL. Yes, right? Someone Confirm lol
Man I'm so new to this. I thought I would post this. Here they are. I can post more if legit thanks guys
Nothing about those coins says Proof.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@Crypto said:
Everyone has seen one or heard of one yet they can never produce evidence. How many old coin guys claim to know of a 64d peace.
When only the fans are the ones to claim to have seen them, one must consider the source.
With the way the US government acted when the Langboard family sent 10 1933 DE to the mint for authentication, you wouldn't have any apprehension parading a 1964 Peace dollar or 1974 aluminum cent around?
It still amazes me that the Langboard family would entrust any government entity with their coin-especially all of them when there are many other reputable authentication venues out there. International branches of major grading services such as PCGS would seem to be a much better choice imo.
It wasn’t just about obtaining a reputable authentication - based on their provenance, I don’t think there was much doubt regarding the authenticity of the coins. Even if PCGS or another company had authenticated them, that wouldn’t have necessarily meant that the coins were legal to own or sell.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
> This thread keeps coming back like a bad meal...
Sorry - Not even close on your cents. If you bought the Flynn Book then you need to study and understand the diagnostics. In fact, Do not even study the rim part - just study the markers for all they dates. Then go to the PCGS true views and look at the pictures for those same date/markers.
WS
"This thread keeps coming back like a bad meal..."
WS, right? I don't care if it is, go fishing or somthing if you dislike it so much!
We are talking about the 1917. isnt this the "Official 1917 MPL thread"? There no need to patronize me. I compared die markers (1916) from Kevin's book to the 1917. The markers for 1916 MPL match up very similar with my 1917. I would have to send it to TPG to find out. At the same time nobody knows how many existed right? Only 1 certified or a few?, I agree True view is helpful (No 1917 MLP obv) I believe the die markers are the way to go. . .
Its all good over here. I will post my find when I can.
Cheers! What's up Buffnixx.
Yeah it was for fun. I didn't know what the 1909 was. I've never see that luster before.
I did find a matte proof! I will post it when I get home. I have a question about Buffs can I message you sir?
@BUFFNIXX said:
No and No to both the 1917 and 1909 cents i see herein.
both are business strikes but still are nice little pennies in their own right.
buffnixx
I have a 1917 Buffalo certified and hand-signed on the label by Larry Briggs, Signature Series at SEGS. It's certified PF63, undergraded. The detail is unmatched, it has mirrored square rims, the diagnostic crack, and the surfaces are unlike anything else.
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Socal 310
This thread keeps coming back like a bad meal...
Sorry - Not even close on your cents. If you bought the Flynn Book then you need to study and understand the diagnostics. In fact, Do not even study the rim part - just study the markers for all they dates. Then go to the PCGS true views and look at the pictures for those same date/markers.
WS
No and No to both the 1917 and 1909 cents i see herein.
both are business strikes but still are nice little pennies in their own right.
buffnixx
a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
In my opinion, no matte proof 1917 cents exist. The mint was already having issues with the cost of making proofs, and the Director forbade making any proofs on October 17th of 1916. To sandblast a pair of dies, use the medal press, and remove those coins from the mint unnoticed would be a large undertaking, unlikely to be done with the Director expressly forbidding it.
Coin Photographer.
Nothing about those coins says Proof.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
It wasn’t just about obtaining a reputable authentication - based on their provenance, I don’t think there was much doubt regarding the authenticity of the coins. Even if PCGS or another company had authenticated them, that wouldn’t have necessarily meant that the coins were legal to own or sell.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
> This thread keeps coming back like a bad meal...
"This thread keeps coming back like a bad meal..."
WS, right? I don't care if it is, go fishing or somthing if you dislike it so much!
We are talking about the 1917. isnt this the "Official 1917 MPL thread"? There no need to patronize me. I compared die markers (1916) from Kevin's book to the 1917. The markers for 1916 MPL match up very similar with my 1917. I would have to send it to TPG to find out. At the same time nobody knows how many existed right? Only 1 certified or a few?, I agree True view is helpful (No 1917 MLP obv) I believe the die markers are the way to go. . .
Its all good over here. I will post my find when I can.
Socal 310
Cheers! What's up Buffnixx.
Yeah it was for fun. I didn't know what the 1909 was. I've never see that luster before.
I did find a matte proof! I will post it when I get home. I have a question about Buffs can I message you sir?
Socal 310
I have a 1917 Buffalo certified and hand-signed on the label by Larry Briggs, Signature Series at SEGS. It's certified PF63, undergraded. The detail is unmatched, it has mirrored square rims, the diagnostic crack, and the surfaces are unlike anything else.
You need to provide us with pictures.
Pete