When you have to "Get out of Dodge"
tneig
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What do you really do when it's time to "Get Out of Dodge?" Never heard a good answer.
This may be one of the first things you do. I've been wanting to do this for awhile now,
so I ordered a few from NW. I didn't realize how tuff silver is until I tried to separate it.
I even put it in the seams of the office desk and realized I was prying up the top of the desk
and it still wasn't bending. I could see I would be warping it out of shape so reverted
to a couple of channel locks. Little trimming and polishing needed on the edges.
You're going to love my next experiment..
This may be one of the first things you do. I've been wanting to do this for awhile now,
so I ordered a few from NW. I didn't realize how tuff silver is until I tried to separate it.
I even put it in the seams of the office desk and realized I was prying up the top of the desk
and it still wasn't bending. I could see I would be warping it out of shape so reverted
to a couple of channel locks. Little trimming and polishing needed on the edges.
You're going to love my next experiment..
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Already divided, already assayed, already weighed. Face value, known maker, known purity.
--Severian the Lame
yeah, you don't want the conversation to go like this:
Me: "You got any chickens"
Him" "Yep. The price is $12 per chicken and all I have is 1 left"
Me: "All I have is 1 ounce silver rounds"
Him: "That'll do"
Me: "Hey, this silver round is worth $50"
Him: "Looks like the price just went up on the chicken"
-versus-
Me: "You got any chickens"
Him" "Yep. The price is $12 per chicken and all I have is 1 left"
Me: "Here's a silver quarter and a silver dime?"
Him: "That'll do. Nice doing business with you"
Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
<< <i>yeah, you don't want the conversation to go like this:
Me: "You got any chickens"
Him" "Yep. The price is $12 per chicken and all I have is 1 left"
Me: "All I have is 1 ounce silver rounds"
Him: "That'll do"
Me: "Hey, this silver round is worth $50"
Him: "Looks like the price just went up on the chicken"
-versus-
Me: "You got any chickens"
Him" "Yep. The price is $12 per chicken and all I have is 1 left"
Me: "Here's a silver quarter and a silver dime?"
Him: "That'll do. Nice doing business with you" >>
Hmm I'll have to rethink my only Franklins and Walkers 90% approach
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Hmm I'll have to rethink my only Franklins and Walkers 90% approach >>
Kind of comes down to how certain you are PMs will continue to increase in value (or retain value, however you look at it), and how bad you think conditions might eventually get.
We tend to be drawn to bigger is better. Silver dollars are nice, big, shiny hunks of silver. But there is a premium for them and they're not easy to divide. Imagine having a wallet of only $50 or $100 bills, and the person you're buying from has no change. Silver dollars have had close to that value in recent history. Who knows where they could be valued if things get bad.
Halves can be had for little premium. But 90% being easy to recognize is one of its best attributes. If Kennedy half dollars are uncommon outside of the coin hobby, Franklins and walkers are virtually unknown. And again, they're still big chunks of value.
Washington quarters and Roosevelt dimes are used in transactions every day by everyone. And rather than their 90% counterparts being sold at a premium, as you'll find (if you find) 1/10th and 1/4 ounce .999 rounds, they can often be had for the same price or even a discount to silver half dollars.
And there is no more or less silver in 10 90% dimes as there is in 4 90% quarters or 2 90% half dollars.
--Severian the Lame
<< <i>yeah, you don't want the conversation to go like this:
Me: "You got any chickens"
Him" "Yep. The price is $12 per chicken and all I have is 1 left"
Me: "All I have is 1 ounce silver rounds"
Him: "That'll do"
Me: "Hey, this silver round is worth $50"
Him: "Looks like the price just went up on the chicken"
-versus-
Me: "You got any chickens"
Him" "Yep. The price is $12 per chicken and all I have is 1 left"
Me: "Here's a silver quarter and a silver dime?"
Him: "That'll do. Nice doing business with you" >>
exactly
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
I have the silver dimes and quarters too of course. But with all this knowledge now, I realize in SHTF, folks may not understand, recoginize or accept 1oz silver or silver dimes/quarters. So I'm still stacken current coinage and paper in my BOB/Prep. Halfs of %40/%90 make them confusing too, so I religated them to my coin folder collection for fun. Barter of a chicken for bread/milk, etc. may be more a fair one to one type trade then figuring out what the value of silver/gold/current money is worth. Now Gold, I have no idea, but would not be flashing it around for sure. Maybe gold for a working vehicle type thing.
Dodge for me is in the tight cooridoor of the east coast, so if not the first one out the door, not going to try. Lock up/stock up/lay low. One of the reasons the retirement plan is likely west, West Virginnia with 12+ acres backed up to a hill. (oh, with internet!)
I'm almost thinking there's a need for a PM community to deal and barter with in some of these yet unknown events and times. Who else to better trade pms with. Just not too many of us.
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
<< <i>Dodge has very large boundaries. Probably better to be prepared to hunker down in Dodge. >>
Best idea,if Dodge loses its Marshall I don't think traveling through the surrounding Apache territory will be any safer.
<< <i>yeah, you don't want the conversation to go like this:
Me: "You got any chickens"
Him" "Yep. The price is $12 per chicken and all I have is 1 left"
Me: "All I have is 1 ounce silver rounds"
Him: "That'll do"
Me: "Hey, this silver round is worth $50"
Him: "Looks like the price just went up on the chicken"
Me: Bang!!! Thanks for the free chicken you greedy bast@rd. >>
Fixed it for you.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i>yeah, you don't want the conversation to go like this:
Me: "You got any chickens"
Him" "Yep. The price is $12 per chicken and all I have is 1 left"
Me: "All I have is 1 ounce silver rounds"
Him: "That'll do"
Me: "Hey, this silver round is worth $50"
Him: "Looks like the price just went up on the chicken"
Me: Bang!!! Thanks for the free chicken you greedy bast@rd. >>
Fixed it for you. >>
Love it. The Road by Cormac McCarthy or even Book of Eli
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<< <i>yeah, you don't want the conversation to go like this:
Me: "You got any chickens"
Him" "Yep. The price is $12 per chicken and all I have is 1 left"
Me: "All I have is 1 ounce silver rounds"
Him: "That'll do"
Me: "Hey, this silver round is worth $50"
Him: "Looks like the price just went up on the chicken"
Me: Bang!!! Thanks for the free chicken you greedy bast@rd. >>
Fixed it for you. >>
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<< <i>
<< <i>yeah, you don't want the conversation to go like this:
Me: "You got any chickens"
Him" "Yep. The price is $12 per chicken and all I have is 1 left"
Me: "All I have is 1 ounce silver rounds"
Him: "That'll do"
Me: "Hey, this silver round is worth $50"
Him: "Looks like the price just went up on the chicken"
Me: Bang!!! Thanks for the free chicken you greedy bast@rd. >>
Fixed it for you. >>
I was joking of course, but in a SHTF scenario, screwing with a man who's starving can get you killed.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i>Great 'fix' PerryHall..and likely a common scenario if things REALLY get bad... Cheers, RickO >>
I'd have to agree. If it came down to it all that other wouldn't matter and this would the the only sentence in the conversation:
"Bang!!! Thanks for the chicken."
Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
It looks like we have identified the SHTF raging mob we have feared........ it is us.
If you would murder someone to steal thier food then you are a sorry, soulless individual.
<< <i>It looks like we have identified the SHTF raging mob we have feared........ it is us.
If you would price gouge someone who is starving to death you are a sorry, soulless individual. >>
Fixed it for you.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Coins are in the safe , guns are in another safe, now my chickens have to be kept in a safe too?
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<< <i>It looks like we have identified the SHTF raging mob we have feared........ it is us.
If you would price gouge someone who is starving to death you are a sorry, soulless individual. >>
Fixed it for you. >>
Shoulda built a chicken coup rather than hoard silver. The relative value of assets is glaringly apparent, yet very few see it.
Knowledge is the enemy of fear
Should'nt this be in the chicken forum.
everyone , listen to rooster he knows his chickens
<< <i>Shoulda built a chicken coup rather than hoard silver. The relative value of assets is glaringly apparent, yet very few see it >>
One guy saved dollars
One guy saved silver
One guy saved chickens
The guy with the dollars that are worthless offers thousands to you for silver to buy food, you tell him sorry, your dollars have no value, I can't eat or trade them.
Everyone is starving and you go the guy with the chickens and offer silver and he wants much more cause he can't eat silver and no one else is selling food to replace the chickens,
So now we shoot him and take his chickens because he was a price gouger who wouldn't give you his valuable chickens for the amount of silver YOU thought was fair.
Get your guns ready guys, the mob will use the same justification to "share" your food, your silver and your chickens.
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<< <i>
<< <i>It looks like we have identified the SHTF raging mob we have feared........ it is us.
If you would price gouge someone who is starving to death you are a sorry, soulless individual. >>
Fixed it for you. >>
Shoulda built a chicken coup rather than hoard silver. The relative value of assets is glaringly apparent, yet very few see it. >>
Yeah. How long ya gotta parboil them silver rounds fer ya kin eat em?
Matt
Think you can provide an address. When I "Get outta Dodge" I'll want a place thats well stocked with chickens
It won't be as easy as bang to murder him for it as in perryhall hilarious and oft repeated "joke". might go bang bang bang and everybody dead and the silver jingle jangle and the chicken run away
Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry
Thinking less people will understand 90% if SHTF. Hardly anyone understands silver now, let alone the 90% value. Stating that silver is a valuable conductor when there is no pm market in place is meaningless. Or that this 90% dime is worth $3 compared to a newer dime that is worth 10cents. Considering that fiat money will be very low in value, so it will pull down the relative value of PMs.
And if they understand PMs and wish to use them, then pure .999 ASE/Maples and silver bars will be most trusted. And, maybe not that valuable at the time - without a system and pm market in place. Be a little hard pressed to insist on a spot price that doesn't exist.
Gold, with its dangers will still rule. Some 1 gram or 1/10 oz are needed to supplement the 90% silver or other moneys.
This just illustrates to me more, without some of major systems in place, we won't know how to act.
"Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey
<< <i>I'm counting less and less on 90% as time goes on. I may buy some more investment wize if a really good price presents, but no more for backup now. Its a balance of what you can stack (and carry).
Thinking less people will understand 90% if SHTF. Hardly anyone understands silver now, let alone the 90% value. Stating that silver is a valuable conductor when there is no pm market in place is meaningless. Or that this 90% dime is worth $3 compared to a newer dime that is worth 10cents. Considering that fiat money will be very low in value, so it will pull down the relative value of PMs.
And if they understand PMs and wish to use them, then pure .999 ASE/Maples and silver bars will be most trusted. And, maybe not that valuable at the time - without a system and pm market in place. Be a little hard pressed to insist on a spot price that doesn't exist.
Gold, with its dangers will still rule. Some 1 gram or 1/10 oz are needed to supplement the 90% silver or other moneys.
This just illustrates to me more, without some of major systems in place, we won't know how to act. >>
Fake maples and eagles are more prevalent than circ coins I would think and assume in shtf. Bogus 90% wouldnt be mass-profitable to produce, to me anyway.