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Help with grade, 1795 Flowing Dollar= PCGS-F-12

SmallTownCoinsSmallTownCoins Posts: 688 ✭✭
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Coin just came back as a problem free Fine 12...
a little disappointed, but it is what it is... :-)

Any Thoughts ?

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  • SmallTownCoinsSmallTownCoins Posts: 688 ✭✭
    Sorry about the giant photo's, did'nt know what I was sending :-)
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  • KoveKove Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭✭
    VF20, light hairlines, graffiti on obverse rim @3:30.
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    12+.
  • SmallTownCoinsSmallTownCoins Posts: 688 ✭✭
    An older guy brought it in just a bit ago, jingling in his pocket with everyday pocket change,
    then he whips out an old ANACS Photo cert from 1981... He knew what he had :-)
    Bought it as a 15... Love the huge clash mark on the obv...
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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Heckuva pocket piece!!
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  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,823 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Heckuva pocket piece!![/q

    No kidding. I'm guessing it wont grade problem free.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The sharpness grade would have been Fine in "the good old days" and VF by today's standards. The piece has some scratches that will probably prevent it receiving a grade in a PCGS slab.
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  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Can anyone please point out the supposed graffitti? >>



    They are saying the obverse rim of the coin at 3:30.
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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is one of mine ,graded as a 20.
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  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,178 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This is one of mine ,graded as a 20.
    image >>



    Great eye appeal!
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  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Can anyone please point out the supposed graffitti? >>



    If you look on the edge at what I call 4:00 on the obverse you will see an E! It blends in well with the reeding...keen eye up yonder in the thread!

    I think it would come back in a PCGS F details cleaned holder from the picture.
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>12+. >>



    what i am thinking

    too bad for that dentil damage
    .

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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why don't you try decreasing the size of the photo,and i'm almost sure
    that graffitti will just about disappearimage
  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
    Here are pictures of an NGC F15 I sold a couple weeks ago. I think yours might be VF or so details, but I don't think it would get into a problem free holder.

    -Paul

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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>This is one of mine ,graded as a 20.
    image >>



    Great eye appeal! >>



    That looks like a Half to me.

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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is a half,i posted the wrong oneimage
  • SmallTownCoinsSmallTownCoins Posts: 688 ✭✭
    to the top for results :-)
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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>to the top for results :-) >>



    you should be smiley for sure that it received a problem-free grade image
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  • IrishMikeyIrishMikey Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭
    It looks like they "Net" graded the coin for minor problems. Not everyone will agree, but I
    would rather they did that than give the coin a bodybag or a problem holder. The whole
    system of Net grading works pretty well for early coppers -- why not early silver as well?
  • SmallTownCoinsSmallTownCoins Posts: 688 ✭✭
    Might anyone here have a Bolender Book that they can confirm this is a B-9 BB-13 Die state 2 Coin ?
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  • numobrinumobri Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭


    Using Bowers book, BB 13 Die State 2 it is.


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  • SmallTownCoinsSmallTownCoins Posts: 688 ✭✭
    Thank you very much :-)
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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,283 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Coin just came back as a problem free Fine 12... >>



    Congrats. It's always better to get it into a problem free holder, even if it is net graded.
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  • raysrays Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Coin just came back as a problem free Fine 12... >>



    Congrats. It's always better to get it into a problem free holder, even if it is net graded. >>



    Agreed.
  • SmallTownCoinsSmallTownCoins Posts: 688 ✭✭
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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,798 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it and I think much of what the "gennie" people were seeing wouldn't be nearly so visible in hand. Even gems can look pretty trashy if you make the photo big enough.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,041 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think that you should be happy that it got into a problem free holder and should not be looking for an upgrade.
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