I think this roll will go for "stupid money"

Prethen

Par for the course for this type of stuff.

RichardDawkins

I have made many stupid mistakes on eBay.

nwcoast

Those crazy rolls with non-matching end coins are NO WAY I sear
unsearched and clearly a marketing scam. I can't understand how anyone could fall for this one..
I'd be much less inclined to think this type of roll was unsearched than one with cents on both ends.
Just my 2 cents...

JamesMurray

While i'm sure the rolls are salted and marketed cleverly , can't argue with the feedback.

Broadstruck

"Stupid Money" = Another fool and his money will shortly be separated!

golden

<< <i>"Stupid Money" = Another fool and his money will shortly be separated! >>

nwcoast

Yea, 100% Positive..
Looks like enough fun coins are being thrown into the mix to keep customers happy..
So get some common wheats, throw in a mix of other mostly common goodies and sell for a hefty premium...
Hummmm...

Mizzou

Toolhaus.org is your friend -

Neutral feedback rating NOT WHAT YOU EXPECT....SEEMS LIKE THEY HAVE BEEN PREBUILT Buyer:
Member id mtcs2006 ( Feedback Score Of 3464Red star icon for feedback score in between 1,000 to 4,999)
Jul-18-11 10:48
Unsearched Penny Roll 1909 VDB / WHEAT REV ends 96 (#230642240512) US $58.00 View Item Unsearched Penny Roll 1909 VDB / WHEAT REV ends 96
Neutral feedback rating 1908 S Indian Head coin shown in photo turned out to be non authentic Buyer:
Member id 7777andrew239 ( Feedback Score Of 217Teal star icon for feedback score in between 100 to 499)
Jun-20-11 07:11


Reply by andyfla (Jun-20-11 15:15):
Sorry you feel that way. I have never seen or heard of any

Unsearched Pennies S MINT IH / 1909 VDB showing 316 (#330574531501) US $286.56 View Item Unsearched Pennies S MINT IH / 1909 VDB showing 316
Neutral feedback rating A $95 roll of useless 49 pennies+1dime Buyer:
Member id djspaier ( Feedback Score Of 71Blue star icon for feedback score in between 50 to 99)
May-22-11 05:09
Unsearched Penny Roll SILVER DIME / IH REV showing 35 (#330562746970) US $96.00 View Item Unsearched Penny Roll SILVER DIME / IH REV showing 35
info
Detailed item information is not available for the following items because the Feedback is over 90 days old.
Neutral feedback rating Would not buy these lots again...definitely not random Buyer:
Member id jaxgolfer302 ( Feedback Score Of 14Yellow star icon for feedback score in between 10 to 49)
Jan-27-11 16:00


Reply by andyfla (Jan-28-11 05:41):
Sorry you didn't get what you expected, but you have no right to say this

Unsearched Penny Roll IH Reverse on Both ends 23 (#330515144008) US $58.75
Neutral feedback rating Seems like a scam Buyer:
Member id jaxgolfer302 ( Feedback Score Of 14Yellow star icon for feedback score in between 10 to 49)
Jan-27-11 16:00
Unsearched Penny Roll 1909 IH / IH REV showing 21 (#330515141401) US $52.00
Negative feedback rating bought 2 rolls. each only had 6 indian. rest was wheat. positioned as indian Buyer:
Member id wjalbertsen2011 ( Feedback Score Of 3 )
Jan-26-11 04:32


Reply by andyfla (Jan-28-11 05:44):
Descriptions Clearly state what you can find. It never says all Indian heads

Unsearched Penny Roll 1895 IH / IH REV showing 313 (#330515973479) US $36.00
Negative feedback rating bought two rolls. Each roll only had 6 indian head pennies, All else wheat. Buyer:
Member id wjalbertsen2011 ( Feedback Score Of 3 )
Jan-26-11 04:32
Unsearched Penny Roll 1899 IH / IH REV showing 311 (#230570622264) US $38.00
Neutral feedback rating fast ship maybe unsearched by seller but surely by someone else all common few i Buyer:
Member id wearein ( Feedback Score Of 1997Red star icon for feedback score in between 1,000 to 4,999)
Jan-06-11 08:13
Unsearched Penny Roll 1901 IH / 1899 IH showing 67 (#230567335185) US $32.31
Neutral feedback rating fast ship. maybe not searched by seller but surely by someone else. all commons Buyer:
Member id wearein ( Feedback Score Of 1997Red star icon for feedback score in between 1,000 to 4,999)
Jan-06-11 08:13
Unsearched Penny Roll SILVER DIME / IH REV ends 64 (#330512308515) US $48.00
Neutral feedback rating fast shipment. coins all common dates, grade fair to vg, few indians, wheats mo Buyer:
Member id wearein ( Feedback Score Of 1997Red star icon for feedback score in between 1,000 to 4,999)
Jan-06-11 07:52
Unsearched Penny Roll IH Reverse on Both ends 63 (#230567334131) US $48.51
Neutral feedback rating Returned roll looks like end was unrolled and rolled back up. Check pictures Buyer:
Member id mom4456 ( Feedback Score Of 186Teal star icon for feedback score in between 100 to 499)
Nov-08-10 19:48


Reply by andyfla (Nov-09-10 14:43):
If that was true, there would not be as many bids and as many repeat buyers

Unsearched Penny Roll 1906 IH / 1908 IH on ends 72 (#330488675777) US $54.00
Neutral feedback rating I don't believe these are unsearched. Returned coins. Buyer:
Member id mom4456 ( Feedback Score Of 186Teal star icon for feedback score in between 100 to 499)

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JamesMurray

<< <i>Yea, 100% Positive..
Looks like enough fun coins are being thrown into the mix to keep customers happy..
So get some common wheats, throw in a mix of other mostly common goodies and sell for a hefty premium...
Hummmm... >>



Thats exactly how it works , you can even buy the shotgun roll twisters on the bay for under 10 bucks.

CarlWohlforth

Clearly the rolls have been "searched". This is a twist on the grab bag type of auctions. Seems to be working for this fellow as he has been at it for a while.

nwcoast

Thanks Mizzou....
A closer look revealing the crumbs swept under the carpet of that 100% feedback..

Casman

Well, this buyers apparently a happy repeat customer, although really by know these 2 should get together and skip the auction process...


http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=AllFeedback&userid=cjasper25moneyman&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&interval=0&mPg=26&page=1

link

epcjimi1

Why does Ebay allow this c*ap to be sold without any documentation to the sellers claim that the roll is "unsearched" and purchased from a family in Tennessee?

Bizarre + absolutely crazy. Where's that ebay coin selling watchdog group?

ricko

<< <i>Why does Ebay allow this c*ap to be sold without any documentation to the sellers claim that the roll is "unsearched" and purchased from a family in Tennessee? >>

a

How, precisely, would you obtain such documentation?? How could it possibly authenticate such a roll?? Not arguing that it is a salted roll... just cannot imagine such documentation.

Cheers, RickO

derryb

What you don't see in his ebay feedback

yellowjacket

Wow. And these buyers submitting negs really expected more??? Ganted the seller plays up the possibilities; however, common sense says not to expect much. The seller is playing on people's greed and they deserve what they get.

Garrow

Alltheabove76

only 2 neutrals out of 2200 is pretty darn impressive. He is giving enough for people to be satisfied.

halfhunter

Checking his completeds; some of these rolls have gone for over $100 ! ! !

HH

nwcoast

Truth in advertising is dead and greed is endemic.
The American way....
I know it's not just America.... so to reduce the flames..
I'm old enough to remember when there were truth in advertising ethics and maybe even laws.

MacCrimmon

My favorites were the silver dollars wrapped in faux Carson City, Nev. bank wrappers............the eagle was a nice touch!

He should have salted them into a strong box, buried it, and "discovered" it in the Nevada desert with a cache-shooter........then, linked it to Youtube...........yeah, that's the ticket!

JamesMurray

This came up after looking at that link , no shortage of sellers playing the same game.Two things strike me as peculiar , those rolls are from different sellers but they almost all have female names and the other thing is the paper rolls themselves,they look identical.I think the using the female name thing is another ploy to sucker people probably.

derryb

<< <i>only 2 neutrals out of 2200 is pretty darn impressive. He is giving enough for people to be satisfied. >>



how about 16 negs and 42 neutrals

JamesMurray

<< <i>

<< <i>only 2 neutrals out of 2200 is pretty darn impressive. He is giving enough for people to be satisfied. >>



how about 16 negs and 42 neutrals >>




Im not defending the seller by any stretch , but he's had no negs in the last 12 months and that alone says something to justify the above statement that he is gving them what they want.2000 transactions and no negs is good going by anyones standards.

Casman

Yes, but there is only 1 buyer...same feedback by the same guy like hundreds of times...maybe not hundreds but still...

JamesMurray

<< <i>Yes, but there is only 1 buyer...same feedback by the same guy like hundreds of times...maybe not hundreds but still... >>



Even if the one guy bought 100's , even 500 , it still leaves 1500 happy ebayers.Im not saying it's right,it looks like a pretty sweet gig lol if one has enough junk.

Raybo

That looks like the reverse of an 1885 III cent piece to me.

Dabigkahuna

How can you have 100% score on 3876 feedback with 16 negs?

I am missing something here.

JamesMurray

<< <i>How can you have 100% score on 3876 feedback with 16 negs?

I am missing something here.

>>



All the negs are from more than a year ago.Seller somehow has avoided one since.

Alltheabove76

<< <i>

<< <i>only 2 neutrals out of 2200 is pretty darn impressive. He is giving enough for people to be satisfied. >>



how about 16 negs and 42 neutrals >>



In the past year its been 2200 positive, 2 neutrals and 0 negatives. Your numbers are overall.

SeattleSlammer

<< <i>only 2 neutrals out of 2200 is pretty darn impressive. He is giving enough for people to be satisfied. >>




Yup!

Alltheabove76

The amazing part is that he has 5.0 DSR for As Described. I wonder if he loads the roll after the auction ends based on the purchase price?

roadrunner

<< <i>

<< <i>only 2 neutrals out of 2200 is pretty darn impressive. He is giving enough for people to be satisfied. >>



how about 16 negs and 42 neutrals >>




58 red flags out of 2200 is mathemathically low, but ethically very poor considering the vast majority of Ebay sellers carry feedback ratings of 99.5-100%.
Anyone under 99% like this guy should be seriously suspect. The rating system is skewed by a factor of 10X or more because the majority of people who are
unhappy will not complain or do not yet know they were screwed.

This is my own standard for rating ebay sellers:

100 - probably ok, but still not a guarantee you can't get ripped off. Some scammers pay off the complainers to ensure they stay at 100%
99-99.5 - serious chinks in the armor for anyone with 1,000 FB's or more.
98 - borderline to full blown sheister
<98 caveat emptor

I think the lowest rating I ever saw with a high FB buyer was around 90%. What school did you go to where the worst students got an A- and the average was A+?
That's the Ebay school.

InternetJunky

currently $31...

Justacommeman

<< <i>Checking his completeds; some of these rolls have gone for over $100 ! ! !

HH >>



people want to believe. MJ

Justlooking

You can't cheat an honest man. People who buy these think they're pulling one over on the seller. Oh, boy.

GrumpyEd

It always seems like ebay is good for this type of stuff, some people like that grab bag style.
The rolls with amazing end roll coins are funny because some sellers have endless rolls like that so any bidder with sense knows it's not random. Maybe that's why the bidders that buy them often give a positive. They got what they bid on and feel they pulled one over on the seller. If they ever try selling the coins they'll find that the damaged or over paid for end coin was probably worth less than they paid.
I don't doubt that some of the key coins that you see in the FBs are fakes. I mean if someone finds an S-VDB or 55-DDO in a roll they might give pos FB before having it slabbed, they don't think that it can be a fake put in as salting because they think they pulled one over on the seller. Who knows LOL!

goodmoney4badmoney

I see good marketing, the truth is obvious....or is it?

VMRCC

<< <i> I don't doubt that some of the key coins that you see in the FBs are fakes. I mean if someone finds an S-VDB or 55-DDO in a roll they might give pos FB before having it slabbed, they don't think that it can be a fake put in as salting because they think they pulled one over on the seller. Who knows LOL! >>



While it is possible rolls are salted with fake keys, I think it more likely the seller has a buddy leave this type of feedback.

johnny9434

<< <i>My favorites were the silver dollars wrapped in faux Carson City, Nev. bank wrappers............the eagle was a nice touch!

He should have salted them into a strong box, buried it, and "discovered" it in the Nevada desert with a cache-shooter........then, linked it to Youtube...........yeah, that's the ticket! >>

yeah, real them in lmao

mr1931S

Brilliant Wheats have been seen very often and in all decades, not just 1950's.

This really sounds like an exciting roll.

mr1931S

Brilliant oftentimes includes "shiny brights." 1943 pennies are "shiny brights" by default.

mr1931S

Returns are accepted only if the description of the item is wrong. Roll Must be returned unopened.

Run,Forrest,run!