<< <i>I left two voice mails, sent a few emails and messages threw ebay but no response. His email is for a college in Missouri. I also contacted the buyer who left + feedback for $500 one and told them to get them money back. I was going to buy all of his stuff but I am afraid they would suspend my account for not paying and I have a bunch of ebay bucks that I do not want to lose. >>
If you know the college and the person's name, you may also consider contacting the dean about fraudulent activities of one of the school's students. I'm sure the dean would be interested to hear what you had to say. >>
BY ALL MEANS CONTACT THE UNIVERSITY!!!!
They do not look kindly on people who use the facilities they provide to commit fraudulent activities, as the University could end up being held as liable for providing the facilities and not preventing their students from taking such actions.
Contact the Dean of Student Affairs or the Legal Consul of the University. I am quite confident that they will help you.
The bottom line in dealing with idiots like this is to either make them understand that they are not quite as "invisible" as they think the internet makes them. If you simply explain that you have the ability to reallly F-up their lives with federal felony charges, university issues, civil lawsuits, future credit problems. If they don't take it seriously, then NAIL THEM TO THE CROSS and don't call off the dogs when they come pleading for forgiveness (which they will most assuredly do when they suddenly find themselves in sh*t's creek without a paddle).
<< <i>You might want to actually consult a lawyer (or have one chime in here) before making any sort of threats.
Unfortunately it's only over a matter of $400, and aside from small claims (if that's even worthwhile), there's really not much point IMO.
You can make all the threats in the world and all the guy has to do is simply ignore you, you'll probably spend way more than $400 in your time and effort trying to even get a response out of the seller.
IMO, chalk this up to a lesson learned ... never do business without coverage ... especially with strangers ... unless you're fully prepared to accept the consequences.
If you do decide to go medieval on the seller, be careful ... things can escalate and get messy fast. >>
Why does it seem like it's mostly in this hobby that people have opinions like this. Someone steals $400 from another, and your advice is to leave it alone and chalk it up to a loss? Really? Sorry, but just like in any situation, someone steals $400 from me, I'm doing WHATEVER IT TAKES (within reason) to get my money back.
<< <i>You might want to actually consult a lawyer (or have one chime in here) before making any sort of threats.
Unfortunately it's only over a matter of $400, and aside from small claims (if that's even worthwhile), there's really not much point IMO.
You can make all the threats in the world and all the guy has to do is simply ignore you, you'll probably spend way more than $400 in your time and effort trying to even get a response out of the seller.
IMO, chalk this up to a lesson learned ... never do business without coverage ... especially with strangers ... unless you're fully prepared to accept the consequences.
If you do decide to go medieval on the seller, be careful ... things can escalate and get messy fast. >>
Why does it seem like it's mostly in this hobby that people have opinions like this. Someone steals $400 from another, and your advice is to leave it alone and chalk it up to a loss? Really? Sorry, but just like in any situation, someone steals $400 from me, I'm doing WHATEVER IT TAKES (within reason) to get my money back. >>
+1
Phone calls to the USPS/FBI/a University, filling out a few of their forms doesn't cost much and is perfectly appropriate if this seller ripped you off. Swearing out a criminal complaint with the police in your city and in the city where the University is located also is no big deal as long as the story is true.
Give the guy 1 last chance to refund the money and tell him what you intend to do if he doesn't. Does he really want to risk that at least 1 of those avenues does not end up causing him more than $400 of grief? I think not!
<< <i>The reason why scams and ripoffs go on is because too many people "chalk it up as a loss" - and the scam artists know this >>
Exactly. Whether or not any of those avenues would actually work due to lack of evidence is somewhat immaterial. They only have to make the DBag budge, whihc is much easier than actually proving things to a 3rd party.
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I know it was mentioned earlier, but did you use a credit card to fund this purchase through Paypal? If so, then dispute this with your credit card company.
When you used Paypal to pay for the item, did you fund the purchase with your Paypal balance, a checking account, or a credit card? If you used a credit card, then I would certainly dispute the transaction with your credit card company.
So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
Well someone out there figured out how to access his account (smart group) but I am afraid if I do and send myself a message saying that I (the scammer) received the card so I can get a refund that ebay would suspend me for entering a account that is not mine
You need to stay on the up and up here. Contact your credit card company, that is by far your best option. After that, just keep hounding ebay. Can you prove that the card he is currently selling is the same card that he sold you?
<< <i>Well someone out there figured out how to access his account (smart group) but I am afraid if I do and send myself a message saying that I (the scammer) received the card so I can get a refund that ebay would suspend me for entering a account that is not mine >>
"Hacking" would be just about the WORST thing you could do here, because then you are BOTH in the wrong.
<< <i>Well someone out there figured out how to access his account (smart group) but I am afraid if I do and send myself a message saying that I (the scammer) received the card so I can get a refund that ebay would suspend me for entering a account that is not mine >>
"Hacking" would be just about the WORST thing you could do here, because then you are BOTH in the wrong. >>
Yeah I am not going to do it, just surprised someone figured it out Gonna try with the credit card thing then put this to bed. Thanks for all the help CU
"Card in decent shape, at an affordable price. It can be restored to look brand new."
>>
I noticed this as well and emailed him about it....
Dear crsleecomics212,
I am very interested in this item. How do suggest I restore to look brand new?
- matthewbschultz
His response: Dear matthewbschultz,
There are several companies out there that will restore anything from old/classic movie posters, comic books and sports cards. I have checked around to a few places and Jaime Mendez Restoration and Conservation,http://www.restorationbyjm.com/, has provided me with a lot of great information as well as a pretty decent turn around time. The cost is fairly resonable, i believe it was $165(give or take $20). It is a really great piece to have in a collection, definitely a grea conversation starter.
Thanks, let me know if you have any other questions.
Comments
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<< <i>I left two voice mails, sent a few emails and messages threw ebay but no response. His email is for a college in Missouri. I also contacted the buyer who left + feedback for $500 one and told them to get them money back. I was going to buy all of his stuff but I am afraid they would suspend my account for not paying and I have a bunch of ebay bucks that I do not want to lose. >>
If you know the college and the person's name, you may also consider contacting the dean about fraudulent activities of one of the school's students. I'm sure the dean would be interested to hear what you had to say. >>
BY ALL MEANS CONTACT THE UNIVERSITY!!!!
They do not look kindly on people who use the facilities they provide to commit fraudulent activities, as the University could end up being held as
liable for providing the facilities and not preventing their students from taking such actions.
Contact the Dean of Student Affairs or the Legal Consul of the University. I am quite confident that they will help you.
The bottom line in dealing with idiots like this is to either make them understand that they are not quite as "invisible" as they think the internet makes
them. If you simply explain that you have the ability to reallly F-up their lives with federal felony charges, university issues, civil lawsuits, future credit
problems. If they don't take it seriously, then NAIL THEM TO THE CROSS and don't call off the dogs when they come pleading for forgiveness (which they
will most assuredly do when they suddenly find themselves in sh*t's creek without a paddle).
Dave
<< <i>You might want to actually consult a lawyer (or have one chime in here) before making any sort of threats.
Unfortunately it's only over a matter of $400, and aside from small claims (if that's even worthwhile), there's really not much point IMO.
You can make all the threats in the world and all the guy has to do is simply ignore you, you'll probably spend way more than $400 in your time and effort trying to even get a response out of the seller.
IMO, chalk this up to a lesson learned ... never do business without coverage ... especially with strangers ... unless you're fully prepared to accept the consequences.
If you do decide to go medieval on the seller, be careful ... things can escalate and get messy fast. >>
Why does it seem like it's mostly in this hobby that people have opinions like this. Someone steals $400 from another, and your advice is to leave it alone and chalk it up to a loss? Really? Sorry, but just like in any situation, someone steals $400 from me, I'm doing WHATEVER IT TAKES (within reason) to get my money back.
<< <i>
<< <i>You might want to actually consult a lawyer (or have one chime in here) before making any sort of threats.
Unfortunately it's only over a matter of $400, and aside from small claims (if that's even worthwhile), there's really not much point IMO.
You can make all the threats in the world and all the guy has to do is simply ignore you, you'll probably spend way more than $400 in your time and effort trying to even get a response out of the seller.
IMO, chalk this up to a lesson learned ... never do business without coverage ... especially with strangers ... unless you're fully prepared to accept the consequences.
If you do decide to go medieval on the seller, be careful ... things can escalate and get messy fast. >>
Why does it seem like it's mostly in this hobby that people have opinions like this. Someone steals $400 from another, and your advice is to leave it alone and chalk it up to a loss? Really? Sorry, but just like in any situation, someone steals $400 from me, I'm doing WHATEVER IT TAKES (within reason) to get my money back. >>
+1
Phone calls to the USPS/FBI/a University, filling out a few of their forms doesn't cost much and is perfectly appropriate if this seller ripped you off.
Swearing out a criminal complaint with the police in your city and in the city where the University is located also is no big deal as long as the story is
true.
Give the guy 1 last chance to refund the money and tell him what you intend to do if he doesn't. Does he really want to risk that at least 1 of those
avenues does not end up causing him more than $400 of grief? I think not!
Dave
<< <i>The reason why scams and ripoffs go on is because too many people "chalk it up as a loss" - and the scam artists know this >>
Exactly. Whether or not any of those avenues would actually work due to lack of evidence is somewhat immaterial. They only have to make the DBag budge, whihc is much easier than actually proving things to a 3rd party.
Working on the following: 1970 Baseball PSA, 1970-1976 Raw, World Series Subsets PSA, 1969 Expansion Teams PSA, Fleer World Series Sets, Texas Rangers Topps Run 1972-1989
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Successful deals to date: thedudeabides,gameusedhoop,golfcollector,tigerdean,treetop,bkritz, CapeMOGuy,WeekendHacker,jeff8877,backbidder,Salinas,milbroco,bbuckner22,VitoCo1972,ddfamf,gemint,K,fatty macs,waltersobchak,dboneesq
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Successful transactions on the BST boards with rtimmer, coincoins, gerard, tincup, tjm965, MMR, mission16, dirtygoldman, AUandAG, deadmunny, thedutymon, leadoff4, Kid4HOF03, BRI2327, colebear, mcholke, rpcolettrane, rockdjrw, publius, quik, kalinefan, Allen, JackWESQ, CON40, Griffeyfan2430, blue227, Tiggs2012, ndleo, CDsNuts, ve3rules, doh, MurphDawg, tennessebanker, and gene1978.
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Successful transactions on the BST boards with rtimmer, coincoins, gerard, tincup, tjm965, MMR, mission16, dirtygoldman, AUandAG, deadmunny, thedutymon, leadoff4, Kid4HOF03, BRI2327, colebear, mcholke, rpcolettrane, rockdjrw, publius, quik, kalinefan, Allen, JackWESQ, CON40, Griffeyfan2430, blue227, Tiggs2012, ndleo, CDsNuts, ve3rules, doh, MurphDawg, tennessebanker, and gene1978.
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Successful transactions on the BST boards with rtimmer, coincoins, gerard, tincup, tjm965, MMR, mission16, dirtygoldman, AUandAG, deadmunny, thedutymon, leadoff4, Kid4HOF03, BRI2327, colebear, mcholke, rpcolettrane, rockdjrw, publius, quik, kalinefan, Allen, JackWESQ, CON40, Griffeyfan2430, blue227, Tiggs2012, ndleo, CDsNuts, ve3rules, doh, MurphDawg, tennessebanker, and gene1978.
<< <i>Well someone out there figured out how to access his account (smart group) but I am afraid if I do and send myself a message saying that I (the scammer) received the card so I can get a refund that ebay would suspend me for entering a account that is not mine
"Hacking" would be just about the WORST thing you could do here, because then you are BOTH in the wrong.
<< <i>
<< <i>Well someone out there figured out how to access his account (smart group) but I am afraid if I do and send myself a message saying that I (the scammer) received the card so I can get a refund that ebay would suspend me for entering a account that is not mine
"Hacking" would be just about the WORST thing you could do here, because then you are BOTH in the wrong. >>
Yeah I am not going to do it, just surprised someone figured it out
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<< <i>Listings
Dude has stuff listed again on eBay. If ever there was an eBayer begging for his account to be messed with. >>
Bob Gibson Rookie
"Card in decent shape, at an affordable price. It can be restored to look brand new."
I noticed this as well and emailed him about it....
Dear crsleecomics212,
I am very interested in this item. How do suggest I restore to look brand new?
- matthewbschultz
His response:
Dear matthewbschultz,
There are several companies out there that will restore anything from old/classic movie posters, comic books and sports cards. I have checked around to a few places and Jaime Mendez Restoration and Conservation,http://www.restorationbyjm.com/, has provided me with a lot of great information as well as a pretty decent turn around time. The cost is fairly resonable, i believe it was $165(give or take $20). It is a really great piece to have in a collection, definitely a grea conversation starter.
Thanks, let me know if you have any other questions.
- crsleecomics212
What I'm selling
Building Sets, Collecting Texas Rangers, and Texas Tech Red Raiders
Surely by then you should have known if this was a thread
that was going to be a waste of your time.
<< <i>Surely by then you should have known if this was a thread
that was going to be a waste of your time. >>
That was about as obvious as knowing the OP wasn't going to receive a graded Jordan.
By the way, did anyone else notice that this seller is from Joplin, MO? Still desperate times over there...