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veryfineveryfine Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭
At least that's what I did with this PCGS 1920 Standing Liberty Quarter.
It is a quiet, shy, underwhelming and uncompetitive MS62; a grade that I usually pass on, but this time I ignored the stated grade because it wasn't expensive and is attractive (at least I think so.) It has good luster and head detail for a non-FH SLQ. It is also very clean with regard to marks. The toning is a bit spotty, mostly framing the peripheral obverse; nothing to brag about.

I realize that 1920 is a common date and I could have done much better. Perhaps I should have held out and saved up for an MS64 or even 65 with a sharp full head and better color. Maybe a superb AU58? Yes, I could have done that, but this one speaks to me, and now comfortably resides in my Philadelphia date set. Obviously, I have not mastered the art of coin photography, but for now, this is all I've got.

So what do you think? Would you automatically dismiss a common 20th century coin grading MS62 or would you give it a chance, as I did?

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  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,566 ✭✭✭

    From the pics, it looks quite nice for a 62.
  • JamesMJamesM Posts: 757
    Solid buy, the coin was likely held back by the spots of toning + the hit ~8 ish on the OBV
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Only thing holding it back is probably the slight right leg flatness from toe to upper thigh. I don't see a mark at 8:00...that horiz "gash" looks like part of the design.
    62's as a rule usually have slightly less than decent luster or some light chatter, hairlines, wiping, etc. Don't mind the toning at all.
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  • etexmikeetexmike Posts: 6,813 ✭✭✭
    I like the touch of tone on the coin.

    Looks like a nice pickup.


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  • RollermanRollerman Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm with you on that one! I'm also putting a date set together of this attractive design, just not limiting it to the Philly issues, though all but one of them are from the Phil. mint. Mine is also XF40 to ms63, where it sounds like yours is all MS. I need only the 1923 and a better 1930 piece to complete the set. Good luck with yours, have fun!
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  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,535 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's really a matter of taste. Many 19th Century type coins I've seen in MS 62 are really sliders -- especially Capped Bust Halves. PF coins I've seen in this grade typically have unattractive spotting or hairlines that are attention-getters. A Morgan is typically ugly.

    The 20 P SLQ is typically well struck. Your coin appears to have clean surfaces, except for I don't know what is going on at 3:00 on the reverse near the stars. The coin looks original, and I'll bet the luster is subdued. Your coin has more 'personality' than the countless thousands of blast white dipped Uncs of the series (a couple of which I own).

    I also prefer your coin to the at least 100 + coins I've seen designated as FH which aren't (FH).

    If it were me, I would have waited for one that was better struck, with full shield, rivulets, and complete definition of the rt. knee and thigh. They aren't difficult to find. That being said, I don't think your coin is unattractive.
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice... There's good stuff out there in slabs without paying FH designated money.

    This below is the best 1920-P Ultimate FH I've ever found in a non attributed holder image

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  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭
    nice example and i do love this design....image

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Nice... There's good stuff out there in slabs without paying FH designated money.
    This below is the best 1920-P Ultimate FH I've ever found in a non attributed holder image >>



    nice pick-up image
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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,088 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice snag. Smoetimes a guy kin do both.

    A phew from my meager stash!

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    ms65 CAC

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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,088 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice

    Looks like it came from tnfc!
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  • Bankerbob56Bankerbob56 Posts: 1,397 ✭✭✭
    Bajjeran! That is a sweet SLQ, and in a Doily to boot?!?!

    That's a great combo!
    What we've got here is failure to communicate.....

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  • veryfineveryfine Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for the input.
    Although we've heard that the coin "looks much better in hand" a million times before, my 1920 SLQ reals looks much nicer than my substandard image. There are no gashes or significant scratches on the coin and the luster is above average. The outer shield is complete and relatively sharp but the center is a bit mushy in spots. The leg flatness might have degraded the coin, but I've seen MS63 examples with similar problems.

  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,714 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Solid buy, the coin was likely held back by the spots of toning + the hit ~8 ish on the OBV >>

    I don't think that's a hit, I think (If I'm looking at what you're looking at) that is part of the design of the wall.
  • JamesMJamesM Posts: 757


    << <i>I don't think that's a hit, I think (If I'm looking at what you're looking at) that is part of the design of the wall. >>





    Think you guys are looking at the shinny "thing", I was looking at the spot on the rim under that.

    As it is very hard to tell from these photos I was guessing that was a small rim issue.

    I think it is a great coin for the grade.

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  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    Here's my 1920-P from my current collection...

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    ........and here's the one that was in my old set which I sold 8 years ago...

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