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1934 Peace dollar extraordinaire..

crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,977 ✭✭✭✭✭
I picked this one up off the bay, I was the highest bidder and I must say it looks marvelous, at least I like it. Now I'm not sure what this pretty girl will grade but it sure didn't cost me much. How do ya like this one? Thanks for taking the time to look.....Joe



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Here's a pcgs ms-66 I plucked off the auction results, mine has a hit on the Eagle's back, this one has two....Not sayin this one is a 66...But it's close

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  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭
    oh no...that's absolutely terrible
    you need to sell it to me to get you out of that one joe
    let me save ya and...stick to buff's next time...image
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  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,866 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Stunning golden luster!!!
    Love it..... Looks like a score to me!!! Cheers

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,977 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>oh no...that's absolutely terrible
    you need to sell it to me to get you out of that one joe
    let me save ya and...stick to buff's next time...image >>



    Thanks for the help bud, but I think I'll keep this one.....image
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  • Very nice pickup. I think its an MS64 maybe a +
  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,408 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>oh no...that's absolutely terrible
    you need to sell it to me to get you out of that one joe
    let me save ya and...stick to buff's next time...image >>



    Thanks for the help bud, but I think I'll keep this one.....image >>


    goood enough more then happy to help..image
    now go and drop me a reply in my 1913 type1 buff thread if you want 2 xmas cards this year...image
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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,110 ✭✭✭✭✭
    GEM ++ all the way and surely MS66 is not out of the question.
    Nice catch!

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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice one, Joe. Congrats. Has it got a golden hue?

    I sold my mostly gem set a couple of years ago. I sort of miss collecting Peace dollars but it's tough love. There are so many issues, and MS grading can be very tricky.
    Lance.
  • stealerstealer Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭
    How can you guys tell that's not friction on the reverse? Looks AU to me.. but nice pickup Joe image
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice 65++
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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,977 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Nice one, Joe. Congrats. Has it got a golden hue?

    I sold my mostly gem set a couple of years ago. I sort of miss collecting Peace dollars but it's tough love. There are so many issues, and MS grading can be very tricky.
    Lance. >>



    Not really, I changed the images as I noticed this too, it's more of a steely blue hue with booming luster... The one I have up there now is more like the coin. I don't see any rub what so ever....Joe
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  • deviousdevious Posts: 1,690
    I see it as a MS66. Weird seeing a non-buffalo acquisition and you did very well!!!

  • OGDanOGDan Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>How can you guys tell that's not friction on the reverse? Looks AU to me.. but nice pickup Joe image >>


    I think it'll go MS, maybe MS65? I don't think it's an AU coin, a "wise man" taught me that the surfaces are just as important as "rub" when evaluating AU vs. MS. The surfaces here are not broken except maybe a very minor break just above the eagles back.
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All I can say Joe, Is that I like yours better that the 66.

    Nice catch!
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  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>All I can say Joe, Is that I like yours better that the 66.

    Nice catch! >>



    Without a doubt! What a looker!!
  • As I posted across the street, the coin appears to be a full MS65 save for the deep gash on the eagle's feathers on the reverse. Because of this, I would call if MS64, and a premium quality one at that. With regards to the PCGS MS66 example, either the photographs are exaggerating the issue, or the coin is grossly over graded in my opinion. I would never purchase that coin for MS66 money with the photograph provided.
  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,018 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like yours far better, Joe. Nice photo also.
    Jim

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,977 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>As I posted across the street, the coin appears to be a full MS65 save for the deep gash on the eagle's feathers on the reverse. Because of this, I would call if MS64, and a premium quality one at that. With regards to the PCGS MS66 example, either the photographs are exaggerating the issue, or the coin is grossly over graded in my opinion. I would never purchase that coin for MS66 money with the photograph provided. >>



    With this image it sold for 2100.00+ ....From what I understand it's a tough coin in this condition what ever the grade may be. image I think it's a keeper and one that will not have to sit in my collection for long if I wanted to "flip" it out for some easy cash. I am, at the present time collecting these peace dollars as they come about that look nice. The strike, clean fields and luster tells me it's a pretty nice coin regardless of the grade, it's for a coin album. Thank you to all for taking the time....Joe
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  • Very nice. I can see it going a 65
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,414 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I absolutly love the top one Joe. Nice pick up image
  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,977 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here a more like "in hand" image of the hit on the reverse of the coin, the Eagle...I think I exaggerated the images in the first image as the imperfection is not seen very well at all when ya look at it in hand. Only when ya pull out a jeweler's loupe you can see it very clearly, it's there alright it's just not as bad as the images portray it to be. It's also very white....Joe


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  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    What a beast of a peace dollar
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  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,798 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like it, and if it was mine I'd certainly send it in for grading. These are devilishly hard to grade from photos. If it's ok, it has a chance at 65 or 65+. It can be VERY easy to miss a little wear, some hairlines, or other evidence of cleaning. If I know a peace dollar is in PCGS plastic I'm pretty good at guessing the grade. My submissions prove that I'm not so good at guessing what will grade and what will end up in a gennie holder. Either way, nice pickup with fantastic hair & feather definition.
  • bestclser1bestclser1 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭
    Hounddog Joe,Very sweet pickup my friend!image
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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    the second photo is overexposed IMO

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  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,516 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I hate to be the only one to be a party pooper, but... From the picture, I would say it has altered surfaces. image
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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,018 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How do you mean 'Altered Surfaces'? As in metal moved, colored or what? I definitely
    could use some education here.
    Thanks
    Jim

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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    Tough thing about offering grade opinions is the necessity of talking about the coin's flaws.

    The strike has weakness on the obv at 10-11 o'clock. The hits on the chin and on the neck are in prime focal areas, as is the reverse hit dead center on the eagle. There is apparently a lot of chatter on the rays on the bottom right of the rev. The surfaces are very nice and the hair over the ear is really strong. I think it's a very nice coin, but the obv weakness and the hit on the eagle keeps it at a 64-65 for me. But a very nice coin indeed.

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Here's a pcgs ms-66 I plucked off the auction results, mine has a hit on the Eagle's back, this one has two....Not sayin this one is a 66...But it's close >>



    The 34-P comes extremely well struck and images very nicely...

    You could list images of AU58' and MS64's next to the MS66 from HA and based on the photos no one would be able to tell them apart.

    Here's a MS64 that LordM had on the BST...

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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,977 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Tough thing about offering grade opinions is the necessity of talking about the coin's flaws.

    The strike has weakness on the obv at 10-11 o'clock. The hits on the chin and on the neck are in prime focal areas, as is the reverse hit dead center on the eagle. There is apparently a lot of chatter on the rays on the bottom right of the rev. The surfaces are very nice and the hair over the ear is really strong. I think it's a very nice coin, but the obv weakness and the hit on the eagle keeps it at a 64-65 for me. But a very nice coin indeed. >>




    I think your very good at summing this coin up, very good. I also noticed this weakness at the 10:00 area on the obverse and wondered how this may effect the grade . But with all you've said I must say I agree 100%...Thank you for taking the time and your "right on" detailed opinion of this particular coin, it is appreciated as this is a new series for me and could sure use some education on these pretty dollars. I have a friend that will be sending me a guide for these Peace dollars and I'll read the hell out of it, thank you Jim for the book....Joe
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  • hammered54hammered54 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭
    appears to have a die crack going thru LIBERTY...could account for the weakness in that area.
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  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,516 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How do you mean 'Altered Surfaces'?

    To me, and I have collected Peace dollars off and on since 1970, the fields look like they have been altered with either a brush or some type of acidic cleaner. The fields do not look "right" to me. I look close to the eagle and it appears to have been missed with whatever was done to the coin. But...I might be wrong.
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    << <i>As I posted across the street, the coin appears to be a full MS65 save for the deep gash on the eagle's feathers on the reverse. Because of this, I would call if MS64, and a premium quality one at that. With regards to the PCGS MS66 example, either the photographs are exaggerating the issue, or the coin is grossly over graded in my opinion. I would never purchase that coin for MS66 money with the photograph provided. >>



    With this image it sold for 2100.00+ ....From what I understand it's a tough coin in this condition what ever the grade may be. image I think it's a keeper and one that will not have to sit in my collection for long if I wanted to "flip" it out for some easy cash. I am, at the present time collecting these peace dollars as they come about that look nice. The strike, clean fields and luster tells me it's a pretty nice coin regardless of the grade, it's for a coin album. Thank you to all for taking the time....Joe >>



    I agree that is a gorgeous coin regardless of what it grades. The second image makes the imperfection less conspicuous, in which case, I would have no problem with it grading MS65. Regardless, the coin is outstanding (as are your other coins), and you did quite well.

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