Would you pay $20 to get info a Coin Fair?

ScarsdaleCoin

If I invited Twenty top dealers to a location.... would you pay $20 bucks to see what they had to offer in a nicer setting?

ajaan

Unless it came with a nice meal, No.

crypto79

<< <i>Would you pay $20 to get info a Coin Fair? >>



For 20$ I would want more than just info

Jokes aside I want to say no but in reality I pay at least that much in parking at every Balitmore show so I guess I would if the right coins were there. A room full of 2x2 pedlers maybe not

LanceNewmanOCC

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as long as they wouldn't include dealers that can't make decisions, a surprisingly large amount of high-end dealers seem to have this condition
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chipper10

I pay $25 to park at Baltimore and the $50 EB fee (pre register online) to get in but $20 for a twenty dealer show-- I'd have to think hard.

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19Lyds

No.

messydesk

No.

LanceNewmanOCC

<< <i>I am sitting at my desk in my office already looking at the top 20 dealer sites, so no would be the answer.. >>



you make me think of a good addition to the OPs question.

how do we quantify the "best" 20 dealers? seems highly interpretative.

i think for my own standards, it would be the ability to get a deal done, on both sides, providing neither party is unreasonable.

someone with extreme levels of creative thinking, and someone that doesn't live with fear or regret.

NOT someone i just like to do business with arbitrarily.

also looking through inventory on someone's web store is light years away from being compared to in-person dealings

and that is coming from someone that spends an inordinate amount of time online ;-)
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WTCG

Because I could wait a week or two for a big show that wouldn't charge $20 to see those same dealers I say NO.

Those PCGS Members shows are basically that event described and they don't charge.

Also who are the top 20 dealers? A top dealer to one person may not be in the eyes of another.

JamesMurray

20 guys in 1 room waiting to see who will take all my money home ? Seems like they should be giving me 20 bucks to come through the door.

mingot

<< <i>20 guys in 1 room waiting to see who will take all my money home ? Seems like they should be giving me 20 bucks to come through the door. >>



Now you might be on to something.

PerryHall

<< <i>If I invited Twenty top dealers to a location.... would you pay $20 bucks to see what they had to offer in a nicer setting? >>



No. Any other good ideas?

scotty1419

No - unless you're getting more than just entrance. IE - $20 ticket for parking entrance and a meal ...or to an exclusive show with fresh material that hasnt seen the light of day in decades and you're the first person to look through it

DrPete

You get in for free (if invited) to the PCGS Las Vegas Invitational coin shows. Typically they have around 15-20 high-end dealers.

lasvegasteddy

oddman out here
yes
as it would be a poorly attended event...more elbow room...maybe better deals accordingly with smalltime dealers trying to make table rent back...

LanceNewmanOCC

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<< <i>20 guys in 1 room waiting to see who will take all my money home ? Seems like they should be giving me 20 bucks to come through the door. >>


Now you might be on to something. >>

Staircoins

Hmmmm...

Would _ _ _ be there and willing to evaluate a certain number of my coins gratis?

MICHAELDIXON

He!! NO!!

tightbudget

No

MVC

MVC

no

coinman23885

No.

MVC

No

LindeDad

Another idea bites the dust.

coinkat

only if you call it a Coin Fair

Sonorandesertrat

The OP's idea MIGHT be attractive were it not for the internet and increasing numbers of coin inventories available for perusal. Given the large number of shows each year, what would really attract collectors to yet another one? Collectors are first and foremost interested in coins and I doubt that a fancy hotel ballroom setting would change anything.

I vote no.

KollectorKing

yes, if the $20 would be given as a credit w/a minimum purchase ($100 and up?) from one of the dealers in attendance.

Halfhunter06

NO

telephoto1

Put me in the yes camp.

I love admission fees; they weed out the tire kickers imo. If a buyer has skin in the game that means they are much more likely to do some business. I've been to several high end antique shows/militaria shows/train shows/guitar shows, they charge $10-$15- $20, some even more- they pack the place with serious buyers-and both buyers and sellers are happy.

It has always been interesting to me how many numismatists seemingly have no problem paying for a hotel room or gas to travel to a show, pay $20-$30 to park... but God save the world if the show promoter wants to charge $5 to get in to help defray costs... all heck breaks loose. Heck, I've seen instances where parking was free and admission was $1 and STILL people were squawking about how they "shouldn't have to pay for the privilege of spending money..." gimme a break...

Zoins

Maybe if I liked the dealers and the setting was spectacular

... but probably no.

BTW, Realone offered some good advice for your website. One thing that would be nice is some indication on which sections have no coins under "Current Coin Offerings." For example, if I click FEC under "Current Coin Offerings," I'm lead to an empty page. Perhaps that page could be unlinked or a "0" indicator could be used to prevent extra clicks.

291fifth

No.

KollectorKing

<< <i>only if you call it a Coin Fair >>



or coin fare

Zoins

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<< <i>only if you call it a Coin Fair >>



or coin fare >>



Or perhaps a Coin Faire with an attendance-only Daniel Carr medal.

Cameonut

Not likely.
If the venue is close - maybe.

But if I have to drive/travel to the venue, I already have some $$ invested in getting there. Charging me another $20 is like poking me in the eye.

nibanny

I would if it was convenient to get there.
The CoinFest was the only show I could attend (plus the international one at the Warldorf Astoria).
Since it was shut down, I wouldn't mind paying $20 for a new show in the area.

Baley

As others have said, I wouldn't pay the $20 just to get in, but would seriously consider it if it included a $credit toward a purchase ("coupon" to be presented after negotiating a price), and/or included food, drinks, a cool token, something other than just the opportunity to talk to them and spend money.. can do that at a regular show or online or on the phone, don't need "special" talking to that seems to be the draw here, maybe there is a market for it but I'd wager it's pretty thin

WTCG

<< <i>Put me in the yes camp.

I love admission fees; they weed out the tire kickers imo. If a buyer has skin in the game that means they are much more likely to do some business. I've been to several high end antique shows/militaria shows/train shows/guitar shows, they charge $10-$15- $20, some even more- they pack the place with serious buyers-and both buyers and sellers are happy.

It has always been interesting to me how many numismatists seemingly have no problem paying for a hotel room or gas to travel to a show, pay $20-$30 to park... but God save the world if the show promoter wants to charge $5 to get in to help defray costs... all heck breaks loose. Heck, I've seen instances where parking was free and admission was $1 and STILL people were squawking about how they "shouldn't have to pay for the privilege of spending money..." gimme a break... >>



That might be an idea to weed out the tire kickers: charge admission then get it rebated once a purchase is made. Other industries like wineries do that now.

And that's one sign you know you're amongst coin people, when people don't flinch at spending $20,000 on a handful of coins then go berserk over having to pay a few dollars for admission. Sometimes the big picture just doesn't make sense to everybody.

PerryHall

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<< <i>Put me in the yes camp.

I love admission fees; they weed out the tire kickers imo. If a buyer has skin in the game that means they are much more likely to do some business. I've been to several high end antique shows/militaria shows/train shows/guitar shows, they charge $10-$15- $20, some even more- they pack the place with serious buyers-and both buyers and sellers are happy.

It has always been interesting to me how many numismatists seemingly have no problem paying for a hotel room or gas to travel to a show, pay $20-$30 to park... but God save the world if the show promoter wants to charge $5 to get in to help defray costs... all heck breaks loose. Heck, I've seen instances where parking was free and admission was $1 and STILL people were squawking about how they "shouldn't have to pay for the privilege of spending money..." gimme a break... >>



That might be an idea to weed out the tire kickers: charge admission then get it rebated once a purchase is made. Other industries like wineries do that now.

And that's one sign you know you're amongst coin people, when people don't flinch at spending $20,000 on a handful of coins then go berserk over having to pay a few dollars for admission. Sometimes the big picture just doesn't make sense to everybody. >>



You guys are being short sighted. Many non-collectors attend out of curiosity and looking at many beautiful coins may spark an interest in a few of those attending. It's to everyone's advantage to bring in new collectors. Charging $20 will scare off many of these potential new collectors.

DarkStar

Yes, but I'd rather you revive Coinfest.

TexasNationals

IMO, the top 20 dealers normally stock high end coins. Seems that chances would be low there are many $200 coins there, so if they stock high end coins they cater to a high end crowd. High end buyers probably already have relationships or agents that have relationships with these dealers and know the inventory that applies to them. High end dealers call high end customers first when high end material comes up. Instead of $20 to see the top 20 dealers you should have a package where you book a conference room at a 5 star hotel for 4 days (Th-Sun), all inclusive 5 star meals and drinks, nighttime entertainment, etc and sell the tickets for $10k each including first class, round trip flights and per-approved lines of credit. Then have a 2 hour per dealer schedule or something, like musical chairs, etc....

morgandollar1878

I can not say that I would.

WTCG

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<< <i>Put me in the yes camp.

I love admission fees; they weed out the tire kickers imo. If a buyer has skin in the game that means they are much more likely to do some business. I've been to several high end antique shows/militaria shows/train shows/guitar shows, they charge $10-$15- $20, some even more- they pack the place with serious buyers-and both buyers and sellers are happy.

It has always been interesting to me how many numismatists seemingly have no problem paying for a hotel room or gas to travel to a show, pay $20-$30 to park... but God save the world if the show promoter wants to charge $5 to get in to help defray costs... all heck breaks loose. Heck, I've seen instances where parking was free and admission was $1 and STILL people were squawking about how they "shouldn't have to pay for the privilege of spending money..." gimme a break... >>



That might be an idea to weed out the tire kickers: charge admission then get it rebated once a purchase is made. Other industries like wineries do that now.

And that's one sign you know you're amongst coin people, when people don't flinch at spending $20,000 on a handful of coins then go berserk over having to pay a few dollars for admission. Sometimes the big picture just doesn't make sense to everybody. >>



You guys are being short sighted. Many non-collectors attend out of curiosity and looking at many beautiful coins may spark an interest in a few of those attending. It's to everyone's advantage to bring in new collectors. Charging $20 will scare off many of these potential new collectors. >>



There is truth to that but you can also argue that casual observers are only there taking up space and resources and are a distraction to the serious buyers.

Of course there is no right or wrong answer but you can make a valid argument for both ideas.

Twobitcollector

No

Coinosaurus

If I spend $250 for a plane ticket to Baltimore, is $20 really a big deal? If the dealers and coins are all there, $20 is not a big deal.

chipper10

<< <i>There is truth to that but you can also argue that casual observers are only there taking up space and resources and are a distraction to the serious buyers. >>



True but a paid admission early buyers session will cure that. I like the concept of free shows to give potential newbies a chance to look around.

Sonorandesertrat

<< <i>If I spend $250 for a plane ticket to Baltimore, is $20 really a big deal? If the dealers and coins are all there, $20 is not a big deal. >>



I agree, but I voted no because what is being proposed seems like a 'me too' coin fair. Why should I attend such a session if what I will see are some of the same
dealers who attend the regular circuit, with basically their same coins in tow? What exactly is special about this?

MrEureka

I don't see it working unless it's held in Realone's living room.

coindeuce

I've got a 100 trillion dollar Zimbabwe note laying around here somewhere. That ought to cover it.

EagleEye

Only if you allow dealers to validate my ticket for a $20 refund after buying from one of the twenty dealers.

(Hey, charge the dealer who I bought from the $20 to recoup your money)

golden

No.