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Electric jewelry cleaner device have a place in numismatics?

Anyone use one for any coin realted preservation purpose? Is there a use for MS coins? Circ coins? If so what kind of agents can you use with them?

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,232 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Anyone use one for any coin realted preservation purpose? Is there a use for MS coins? Circ coins? If so what kind of agents can you use with them? >>



    Tarn-X and similar are just another form of coin dip and has been used to remove tarnish from silver coins for many years. Silver polish has abrasives and should never be used on coins.

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  • SpoolySpooly Posts: 2,108 ✭✭✭
    You can't use it on circulated coins. Circulated coins that have been dipped have a gray grainy look on the worn surfaces. It's best not to dip coins..... you only get 1 maybe 2 dips...then coin has no luster left and look dead.

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  • Shoot...i used insufficent wording. I mean the electric plug in devices, not the compound. Used with soapy water for example.
  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    i give some coins a light soapy bath, rinsed thoroughly, but the amount of coins is small. sometimes with an old toothbrush, lightly, very lightly

    also i've tested a few coins in an ultrasonic with the rubber basket - ok results. usually just use water, no chemicals. - may do more work with this in the future

    the ultimate thing i want to try is a jeweler's steamer. it sprays very hot liquid/steam.

    it sounds rough but i've used one before on jewelry and it can be quite effective, if used properly

    the main reason is to get "ALL" of the grime out of the crooks & crevices for reasons i'll not disclose at this time

    anyone know where a small & affordable unit is, i'd be all ears!
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,232 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Shoot...i used insufficent wording. I mean the electric plug in devices, not the compound. Used with soapy water for example. >>



    Try it with some low valued coins with and without some detergent and see what kind of results you get.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,088 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Shoot...i used insufficent wording. I mean the electric plug in devices, not the compound. Used with soapy water for example. >>



    I believe that you are probably referring to ultrasonic cleaners.

    I tried this years ago with some junky circ Morgans using water, a scosch of liquid dish detergent and a small secant of assitone. The coins came out looking, blah, bland, pukey and washed out.
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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,088 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There is also Simichrome Polish which is great for removing caked on powder residues from nickel plated or stainless steel revolver cylinders. It is a paste containing ammonium oleate. It is also sold/copied under the name Gun brite.
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  • magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780
    "...the ultimate thing i want to try is a jeweler's steamer. it sprays very hot liquid/steam..."

    In the old lab/dark back room of a distant and now closed B&M I saw heat remove a DMPL finish very quickly on an "S" Mint Morgan leaving a dead matte surface and nasty grey too. Something to remember.

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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I saw heat remove a DMPL finish >>



    i understand. proof/pl/dmpl etc would be exempt

    there are coin i know that would benefit, but alas until i do it, it is just theory, but one day and one day soon...

    the soft toothbrush with dishsoap actually gets me most of the way there, but it is labor intensive

    pressured controlled air/steam/water is what i am looking for, or maybe an ultrasonic machine that'll hit about a 7.5 on the richter scale may do the trick
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great care must be used with ultrasonic cleaners since the surface of coins can be irreparably damaged. If you wish to experiment, I suggest using some new cents, nickles etc. from fresh rolls.. these will give you a good indication of when metallic changes begin to appear. Cheers, RickO
  • philographerphilographer Posts: 1,316 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Do not clean your coins!

    He who knows he has enough is rich.

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