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What adjectives and nouns are unique to numismatics??

LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,393 ✭✭✭✭✭
Was having a PM conversation with Oreville the other day and the "bean-a-bility" of a coin came up. image

Here are a couple to get started.

CAC - pronounced "cack"
Beanability - will it earn a bean?
White rattler - 1st generation PCGS holder

What other terms are unique to us coin weenies?? image

The list of words that appear to be unique (and excluding phrases):
brockage
piedfort
mintmark
whizzed
shinplaster - I've always suspected it was to line boots but QDB says there's never been a "contemporary" reference - do you know of one??
overdate
exergue
Kraljeblog
tab-toning
POS
doubled-die
NEWP - could be used anywhere but I've never heard it other than referencing coins
proof-like
AT
Trime
half-dime
chatroom-weenie
disme
half-disme
cartwheel-luster
booming-luster
deep-cameo, DUC
crackout expert
you suck - unique as a award rather than a insult
castainging - can you explain what this means?? image
tombstone-label


Questionable:

exonumia - see Mr. half dimes post - beautifully said. image
scudzy
Beanability
sixed
scrip - used outside numismatics
puttied - I've used it alot on wood projects image
Pocket Piece - could be a watch or other objects
vest pocket dealer - more of a phrase than a word
slabbed - isn't that what happened to the boss of the Teamsters?
Shipwreck effect - happens to everything on the ship, not just coins
Dreck - duplicate entry, see POS above. image



"My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.

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  • WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    planchet...not sure if that is used else where.

    Maybe 'flan' meaning the same thing.
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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    According to google, none of these 3 terms is unique to us numismatists. And we rank well down the list on all of them.

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    Mr. Bean's Ability
    White Rattler (white rattlesnake)

    We have to try harder. image

    I'm pretty sure "numismatist" is a safe one.
    How about "Gobrecht?"
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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,393 ✭✭✭✭✭
    California Arts Council
    Mr. Bean's Ability
    White Rattler (white rattlesnake)


    Good point on white rattler - you're right.

    I'll stick with CAC as used by us - ie "Will it Cack"

    Beanability is still good - nothing to do with Mr. Bean's ability. image
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,234 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Business strike
    mintmark
    Mint State
    die crack
    die chip
    die break
    restrike
    first strike
    die polish
    die sriations
    roller marks
    adjustment marks

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  • pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭


    << <i>LOOK
    means incrdible deal not to be missed


    ah shucks that is an adverb I do believe. >>


    Back to English lessons for you. verb.image
    Paul
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lakesammman -(Lake - sam - man)------ (1) collector of the obscure and unloved. (2) expert on Vietnamese sub culture

    MJ
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  • MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,547 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Lakesammman -(lakes-a-sam-mmmm- man)------ (1) collector of the obscure and unloved. >>


    Wow.

    If that's the definition, just call me Lakesammman II.

    image
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not necessarily a word unique to our own nomenclatural niche, but there was, in the early TPG days, as well as possibly now, a noun which was employed as both a transitive and intransitive verb. Why not claim it as something that will make us feel very special. Secret languageimage

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    When a coin came through the graders had sixed it (graded it 66) or it had sixed.

    Someone from particle physics is going to come up with an incredible gerundive
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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,393 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Lakesammman -(lakes-a-sam-mmmm- man)------ (1) collector of the obscure and unloved. (2) expert on Vietnamese sub culture

    By the way, it's pronounced (Lake - sam - man). With regards to my suculture studies, see below. image

    How can you NOT get into a slab like this?? image

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    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,393 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Colonel - you're over my head. image
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just like at Wiki the pronouniation has been edited for accuracy. Thank you. MJ
    Walker Proof Digital Album
    Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
  • goodmoney4badmoneygoodmoney4badmoney Posts: 1,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "brockage"
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"brockage" >>



    That's a good one. And it looks like it's all ours too.

    I googled "Erin Brockagevich" and still came up with the correct spelling of "Brockovich." Oh well.
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  • TinyTiny Posts: 2,598


    cartwheel luster
  • MarkInDavisMarkInDavis Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭✭
    How about this term I really hate: cabinet friction.

    image Respectfully, Mark
  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,291 ✭✭✭✭
    There are nouns like 'cull' and 'bourse' that are not unique, but are used more often in our field than others

    Is 'piedfort' unique to our trade?

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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
    Scudzy.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • stealerstealer Posts: 3,996 ✭✭✭✭
    People actually call it "cack"? image I thought people just said "CAC", literally.
  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Brockageimage
    "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." - Geo. Orwell
  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,535 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "toilet bowl toning" - described many of the toned Unc. Barber Halves I've seen
    "urine colored toning" - described many of the toned Unc. Liberty Nickels I've seen
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    "Seu cabra da peste,
    "Sou Mangueira......."
  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is there a distinction between broadstruck and broad-struck?image
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  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,393 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'll start a list in the OP - I like several and a quick review of websters seems to confirm. image
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.


  • << <i>LOOK
    means incrdible deal not to be missed


    ah shucks that is an adverb I do believe. >>



    You also misspelled L@@K, which I pronounce 'LAAK'.
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Newp

    AT

    filler?

    pocket piece

    trime

    half dime

    vest pocket dealer?

    slabbed?

  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Is there a distinction between broadstruck and broad-struck?image >>



    image
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  • NapNap Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Cartwheel luster"
    "Shipwreck effect"
    "Booming luster"
    "Deep (ultra) cameo"
    "Crackout expert"
  • segojasegoja Posts: 6,136 ✭✭✭✭
    The "you suck" Award
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  • I claim authorship of the "Tombstone Label" unless someone can show an earlier reference. My exact words were "My favorite label is the flag First Strike label.You can put the black one on my tombstone".
  • jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭✭✭
    prooflike
  • melvin289melvin289 Posts: 3,019


    << <i>LOOK
    means incrdible deal not to be missed


    ah shucks that is an adverb I do believe. >>



    I always thought it was, "LQQK."

    Ron

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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭
    chatroom weenie (so sayeth Laura S.)
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  • bidaskbidask Posts: 14,017 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Sorry you missed this bargain"
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  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 12,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Castainging.

    A castaing'd coin. image



    BTW , my spell check didn't like that word.
    It offered as alternatives carol singing, castigation, and non-staining.

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  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,088 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>planchet...not sure if that is used else where.

    Maybe 'flan' meaning the same thing. >>




    Planchet is used pretty commonly in radiochemistry.
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  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭
    Whizzed!

    Shinplaster

    Scrip (No, the word does not have a 't' on the end.)

    Exonumia

    Overdate

    Exergue

  • MercuryMercury Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭✭
    Shinplaster?

    The only one so far that I have no idea what it means.
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  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Trime
  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,291 ✭✭✭✭
    Kraljeblog

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  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭
    tab toning

    puttied (?)
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,162 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Shinplaster?

    The only one so far that I have no idea what it means. >>




    That's a currency term
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,364 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There is an acronym : POS

    I use it in the shop to avoid hurting people's feelings when they sell what many of you consider schlock, dreck, junk, etc. I don't want to tell them to take their stuff to CoinStar or the bank, or my competitor because they typically say "We don't want that _ _ _ _, take it down the street.

    On a few occasions I've said, "Well it's POS'ly (prounounced POZZZ Lee) worth more than what you could get at the coinstar machine, but not much ".

    They're not sure if I said "positively, or possibly". Thankfully , few ask which adjective I was using. They just assume it's good.
  • StaircoinsStaircoins Posts: 2,568 ✭✭✭

    "Shinplaster" is a term that has been used at various times in the US and Canada to refer to small denomination notes, either of government or private issue.

    The story goes that these small notes became worth so little, so soon after issue, that soldiers lined their boots with them to prevent chafing.

    It has since come to refer to several issues of fractional or small denomination currency issues.

  • frnklnlvrfrnklnlvr Posts: 2,750
    I can't believe no one's said doubled die yet.
  • Ed62Ed62 Posts: 857 ✭✭
    CACed
    Ed
  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 12,998 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>castainging - can you explain what this means?? >>



    Sure.

    Jean Cataing was a Frenchman who invented the machine that allowed edge lettering before close collar dies were introduced.

    The machine was referred to as a 'castainging machine.'

    I can't cite any sources confirming the use of the adjective 'castainged.'
    It's not likely I coined it.
    image

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  • MrHalfDimeMrHalfDime Posts: 3,440 ✭✭✭✭
    In attempting to find adjectives or nouns which are truly unique to numismatics, I could come up with very few. Some of the suggestions already mentioned actually find use in other pursuits, such as ‘die crack’, ‘die break’, and ‘die polish’ used in the tool and die trade, and ‘newps’ which arguably could apply to any collectible. And over many years of pursuing my specialty, I have been amazed at the apparent widespread use of the term ‘half dime’ in relation to the relative size of a defect or stain, particularly in reference to clothing or items made of cloth.

    Here are a few words or phrases that are almost unique to the field of numismatics:

    'Cud' is a word that should have remained exclusively in the lexicon of cattle ranchers, as it is hardly descriptive of the mint error we have come to know it as.

    'Slabbed' is a word used in numismatics, and perhaps in the mortuary field, although the subsequent ‘cracking out’ remains exclusively a numismatic term (one would hope).

    Isn’t it an oxymoron to say that 'Exonumia', or things outside of numismatics, is unique to numismatics?

    I think that proper nouns like people’s names (e.g., Gobrecht, Castaing) should not be included, as they had lives beyond the field of numismatics, and there are numerous other people who share their names with no connection to numismatics. Exceptions might be forum members ‘Longacre’ and ‘Pistareen‘, who are truly unique numismatic phenomena.
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