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Will Acetone remove NT and AT from a Morgan ?

I sent this Morgan to PCGS about a year ago with three other toned raw Morgans. This one came back as questionalbe color. It has just completed three weeks of soaking in pure acetone. I changed the acetone every three days. The colors did not change. It looks exactly the same as it did before it received its bath. Does this make any difference or is it AT ? Thank you in advance for your comments.

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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Acetone removes organics.
    Toning needs to be dipped. Now, depending on how "deep" the toning is, you may end up "pitting" your coin by dipping.
    You could try a diluted dip solution with a very quick run through of the coin and then a quick rinse, but know that it will remove NT as well as AT and, again, you could "damage" your coin.

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  • rawmorganrawmorgan Posts: 618 ✭✭✭
    I'd leave it be, that's a fine looking coin.

  • kazkaz Posts: 9,179 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I agree. Acetone won't remove toning. I'd leave it as is to enjoy.
  • ShortgapbobShortgapbob Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭
    I'd like to see that coin under different lighting, but they may have been scared by the strength of the blue color.
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,408 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd like to see that coin under different lighting, but they may have been scared by the strength of the blue color. >>



    From the photo, I'd be scared by more than just the "blue" color. From the picture, coin just doesn't appear "right" to me. But then, what do I know image

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    looks AT
    and not worth submitting IMO

    LCoopie = Les


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    << <i>I'd like to see that coin under different lighting, but they may have been scared by the strength of the blue color. >>



    From the photo, I'd be scared by more than just the "blue" color. From the picture, coin just doesn't appear "right" to me. But then, what do I know image >>



    +1
  • DaggoBDaggoB Posts: 333 ✭✭
    I can not take a photo under different lighting conditions because my photography skills stink. Todd took the picture at the Ontario show last year before I sent it in.
  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    also I don't think the acetone would do anything here.

    it would probably dip off.
    LCoopie = Les
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like it was fried and got slightly over done.
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  • pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭
    Send it over to eBay, they have some experts who can tell.image
    Paul
  • DaggoBDaggoB Posts: 333 ✭✭
    Thanks for all the comments. It now goes into an album to save for a rainy day.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,491 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd like to see that coin under different lighting, but they may have been scared by the strength of the blue color. >>

    I bought a deep blue Washington Proof that was listed as a Type B Reverse. When I received the coin, it was obvious that it was a proof so I dipped it in E-Z-Est.

    The chemical used to create the blue toning literally floated off the coin which told me that, not only was it an AT but it was a chemincaly induced by applying a chemical to the surface of the coin.

    As for the OP's coin? The toning pattern itself looks questionable as I would expect the deep colors of the toning to be close the the edge of the coin instead on in the middle.
    But then, I don;t know a whole lot. Anymore.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,491 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Send it over to eBay, they have some experts who can tell.image >>

    +1
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,408 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Send it over to eBay, they have some experts who can tell.image >>



    Oh SNAP!!!
    image

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why did you soak in acetone? Were you trying to see if organic toning came off? Or did you hope it might prove it wasn't AT if nothing changed?

    Of course, AT doesn't have to be organic, and because it survived acetone doesn't mean it's NT.

    I'd leave it alone and enjoy it raw.
    Lance.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Acetone will not remove tarnish, either AT or NT - if indeed it is tarnish. Some applied coatings would come off though...Cheers, RickO
  • Acetone will not remove natural toning; however, it may or may not remove artificial toning. Acetone removes organic (polar) substances. The chemicals used to artificially tone coins may or may not be organic and may or may not respond to acetone.


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    << <i>Send it over to eBay, they have some experts who can tell.image >>

    +1 >>



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    +2

    And for the record, the coin does look AT to me. Among other things, the color progression is wrong.

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