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Should I cross these 2 coins to PCGS???

I have a 1955 Double Die Cent in an old ANACS AU55 holder and a 1802/1 Dollar in an old ANACS VF20 holder. If I send both to PCGS the penny will probably drop to a XF40 or 45 and I think the Dollar will not make VF20. Should I send both coins to PCGS?? Have a look at the photos and give me your opinions. . TIA Harvey

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    At first look the old saying "let sleeping dogs lie" comes to mind.
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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If your goal is to sell and can live with the downgrades then sure, if not why bother.
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  • magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780
    Sleeping dogs...

    Eric
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I wouldn't send the 55.The dollar looks good.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If they were mine, I would leave them as they are...... Cheers, RickO
  • morbidstevemorbidsteve Posts: 572 ✭✭✭


    << <i>If they were mine, I would leave them as they are...... Cheers, RickO >>



    I agree
  • magikbillymagikbilly Posts: 6,780
    Hello,

    that is pitting or ? on the $1? Would such surfaces stop a grade or prduce a gennie?

    Best,
    Eric
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does a bear poo poo in the woods?
  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 13,991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd try it. I also think the dollar looks pretty decent.
    When in doubt, don't.
  • raysrays Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The dollar looks like a 20 to me no matter who's holder it resides in.
    The '55... Iffy.


  • << <i>Does a bear poo poo in the woods? >>



    Dunno,I always turn away when they do it!image
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Does a bear poo poo in the woods? >>



    Dunno,I always turn away when they do it!image >>



    He poo poo's in his paw,and throws it in.LOL
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,408 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well, couple of options:

    1) Leave as-is (though, you are asking about trying, so this isn't a preferred option)
    2) Submit
    2.1) Submit at "any grade crossover"
    2.2) Submit at "same grade minimum crossover"
    3) Crack out and submit (not going to recommend this option, but it is an option


    Given the values, and depending what else you have that may go in, I would likely try option 2.2 first. If it works out for you, then you have no worries.
    If they don't, then you can try option 2.1

    Worst case scenario, in either situation, is that they remain in the current holders.
    If you got really ballsy and confident, and 2.2 didn't work out, you could try option 3....and hope you didn't miss anything that they find because, if so, you have some raw (or "GENUINE" slabbed) coins on your hands that will be harder to move later on than where they currently sit.

    Unless I am missing something in the pictures of the bust dollar....I like its odds for crossover and would submit as such.
    The Lincoln, from the pics, for me, is a tough call and that is why I would do option 2.2 above as it is "only" another $30ish or so (shipping, etc) and if you submit with other coins, the shipping and handling fees get spread out more.

    From a future salability standpoint, the older holders are cool, but the PCGS holdering would probably add value. CAC doesn't even currently do the ANACS holders, so you can't even add value that way.
    Heck, I just went through the same question you posed with a few of my own coins, but they were much lesser coins (nicely toned, lower MS grade, morgans). I wanted future confidence if I ever do go to sell them and that started to outweigh my "enjoyment" of having them in the older ANACS slabs like you show.
    Nicest thing about them in the older holders though.......I got them relatively cheap from the sellers at local coin shows/B&Ms...if they had been PCGS, they would have been at least double. Guaranteed as I know those guys.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,020 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coins! I'd love to own both. I dig them in the current plastic. If they cross but drop in grade you may lose money.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,238 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>If they were mine, I would leave them as they are...... Cheers, RickO >>



    I agree >>



    Ditto.

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  • pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>If they were mine, I would leave them as they are...... Cheers, RickO >>



    I agree >>


    Me too.
    Paul
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,226 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would leave them as they are

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  • I would leave them as-is, but if you really want to try, Bochiman gave excellent advice.
  • LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,469 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well I`ll be the first and say that I try to have my coins in the "right" plastic for My Inventory(on the website) if nothing else.

    OR, if I was selling them, PCGS plastic would bring a slight premium.

    If either of these does not come into play for you then keep them as is.

    That`s my 2cents image
  • I would leave them as is they would downgrade
  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I would leave them as-is, but if you really want to try, Bochiman gave excellent advice. >>



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    I think the dollar is a VF-20 in any holder, although your photos make it look slightly granular, so..... who knows?
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  • goldengolden Posts: 9,664 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well I`ll be the first and say that I try to have my coins in the "right" plastic for My Inventory(on the website) if nothing else.

    OR, if I was selling them, PCGS plastic would bring a slight premium.

    If either of these does not come into play for you then keep them as is.

    That`s my 2cents image >>

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  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 10,018 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My opinion would be to leave them in the anacs holders. Those older whte holders are pretty
    well received on Ebay. Very nice coins, I would feel mighty proud to have either.
    Jim

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  • harveypbharveypb Posts: 514
    I think I will leave them in their ANACS holders. Thanks to all who gave their opinions.
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Leave them alone. I love the old ANACS holders.

    If you're planning on selling them, then consider crossing. I think the dollar is solid but the DDO may drop to XF45.
    Lance.
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What is your reason for wanted them in a different companies slab ?

    Please don't just do it because you are caught up on a companies internet board.
    If you hang out at a different companies site and all they drinkers there talk about
    their companies brand of plastic being the cat's meow would you be talking about crossing them there ?
    If that's the case find an ANACS board and find total tranquility.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • MICHAELDIXONMICHAELDIXON Posts: 6,516 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the Lincoln would cross, but don't think the dollar would.
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  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My thought was the DDO would gennie,and the dollar may get a bump to 25.
  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,273 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would not cross them unless they were graded the same grade or higher. Specify the minimum grade on the invoice.

    I play the crackout / crossover game to win, not lose.
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  • Give it a whirl. That dollar is nice,and may come back 5 pointis higher. You can find bust dollars in lesser condition, with problems in problem free holders all day long,same with the other. Sad but true. Just look at the coins Ankur J puts up.
    coolbreeze
  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,995 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am in the minority and would go for the cross to PCGS at minimum F-15 for the $1 and minimum AU-50 for the 55/55.

    Reason? Then the PCGS oslabbed coins would probably garner a sticker as well thus the double certification will make the coins more saleable.
    Also, the 55/55 is iffy in that it MIGHT be toned covering an old cleaning. Why? It looks a little splotchy. But that is speculation at this point based solely on picture.

    if they do cross, the 55/55 will suffer minimal price drop as there price compression between AU-50 to AU-58.




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