I read that this painting is second only to the Mona Lisa as the worlds most famous painting. Hence, the ultimate trophy among art collectors.
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder - lot's of paintiings I prefer over the Mona Lisa.
I'll take a J. Wyeth or Frieseke nude any day of the week over the Mona Lisa.
"My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
Art is truly amazing on so many levels- think about all the different ways in which art has left a lasting impact on civilization
I think The Scream is a work worthy of praise and a significant price tag- I just have no idea what the price evaluation is for something like that. I believe there are etchings as well.
There is still terrific art available at reasonable prices and I will take this opportunity to tell a quick story. I was at the Kansas State Capitol Building which is in Topeka about 30 years ago- I saw the John Brown Mural painted by John Steuart Curry and it was truly beyond words and that little picture I saw in my history book as a kid did no justice to this iconic mural painted in the early 1930s. There was a lithograph done later - perhaps 1934-1938 time frame and I really never knew a litho was done until I saw one. It was still incredible as a lithograph and to see it made my day. It was featured in an auction- I did not win it dispite a sporting effort, but I feel better for just having the opportunity to see it and appreciate the fact that it exists in that median.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
<< <i>I really like this piece, I was first introduced to it in college in a psych class (probably like most psych classes). A few weeks ago I was discussing it in an elective class I teach called "The Art of Pharmacokinetics" using it to illustrate the anguish most students feel about applied mathematics. The students will get a kick out of the sale.
I would prefer to pay a few hundred for a nice reproduction and pick up a few nice double dimes with the balance ... and then maybe buy a small country. >>
If somebody said to me here is 120 million to spend on one single item that you had to either hang on a wall or keep in a safe deposit box I would have honestly picked this piece. Iconic and mesmerizing. MJ >>
Good point.
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<< <i>5 different versions. This was the only one in private hands and this one has the most vibrant colors of all the versions. I was the under bidder. >>
<< <i>Correct me if I'm wrong, but the entire Louis Eliasburg collection did not bring near that much money if my memory is correct although it might now. >>
You are correct I think the who Eliasburg collection brought just under $45 million. He did not have the 1933 twenty dollar gold coin worth (now) about $8 million. Coins cannot even come close to artwork in valuation. $119.9 million vs.8 million? Not even close.
<< <i>Has this not always been the case - fine art outperforms anything?
Eric >>
Fine art is at the pinnacle of valuation and probably always will be. If you are a fan of the likes of Cezanne, Van Gogh, Dali, Munch, Pollock, Warhol and the others on the relatively short list of greats and want an original, there are only about a billion other people who would like to have one of the few paintings that ever come on the market and a few of those billion have bottomless pockets, deep appreciation and ego's.
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<< <i>2nd most famous painting? NOT! What about the many many Van Gogh's? What about any of the many Monet's? To name a few hoards of examples.
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But you didn't really name any. I am sure you know many of them, though the Scream is popular because of its name.
I like it a lot but the Gioconda (Monna Lisa) is the best, imo! If only the french would send her back home!!
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Then a bunch of Monets and Van Goghs and Renoirs.
I'll take a J. Wyeth or Frieseke nude any day of the week over the Mona Lisa.
I think The Scream is a work worthy of praise and a significant price tag- I just have no idea what the price evaluation is for something like that. I believe there are etchings as well.
There is still terrific art available at reasonable prices and I will take this opportunity to tell a quick story. I was at the Kansas State Capitol Building which is in Topeka about 30 years ago- I saw the John Brown Mural painted by John Steuart Curry and it was truly beyond words and that little picture I saw in my history book as a kid did no justice to this iconic mural painted in the early 1930s. There was a lithograph done later - perhaps 1934-1938 time frame and I really never knew a litho was done until I saw one. It was still incredible as a lithograph and to see it made my day. It was featured in an auction- I did not win it dispite a sporting effort, but I feel better for just having the opportunity to see it and appreciate the fact that it exists in that median.
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
Well, just Love coins, period.
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<< <i>I really like this piece, I was first introduced to it in college in a psych class (probably like most psych classes). A few weeks ago I was discussing it in an elective class I teach called "The Art of Pharmacokinetics" using it to illustrate the anguish most students feel about applied mathematics. The students will get a kick out of the sale.
I would prefer to pay a few hundred for a nice reproduction and pick up a few nice double dimes with the balance ... and then maybe buy a small country.
If somebody said to me here is 120 million to spend on one single item that you had to either hang on a wall or keep in a safe deposit box I would have honestly picked this piece. Iconic and mesmerizing. MJ >>
Good point.
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
<< <i>I'll settle for a coffee mug...
Dennis >>
<< <i>Irises by Van Gogh would, for one, be ranked more highly. >>
Which one? Payson's or the one that the Met bought? That sold years back for considerably less. And yes, a pastel is a painting!
Best,
Eric
Edit to add: Payson's was 89 million IIRC.
<< <i>5 different versions. This was the only one in private hands and this one has the most vibrant colors of all the versions. I was the under bidder.
How much under?
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i tried to find the link showing private sales upwards of 650 million, but alas, i cannot
if you can find it, please post a link. thanks
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<< <i>Correct me if I'm wrong, but the entire Louis Eliasburg collection did not bring near that much money if my memory is correct although it might now. >>
You are correct I think the who Eliasburg collection brought just under $45 million. He did not have the 1933 twenty dollar gold coin worth (now) about $8 million. Coins cannot even come close to artwork in valuation. $119.9 million vs.8 million? Not even close.
Eric
<< <i>Has this not always been the case - fine art outperforms anything?
Eric >>
Fine art is at the pinnacle of valuation and probably always will be. If you are a fan of the likes of Cezanne, Van Gogh, Dali, Munch, Pollock, Warhol and the others on the relatively short list of greats and want an original, there are only about a billion other people who would like to have one of the few paintings that ever come on the market and a few of those billion have bottomless pockets, deep appreciation and ego's.