Question about Mercury Dime Newp

Nolawyer

This 1938-S is in an older smaller ANACS MS65FB slab. Do you think it has a chance to cross to PCGS? I am worried about the black toning being considered environmental damage.

coinman23885

I don't think it is environmental damage, but I think it makes the coin possess negative eye appeal. Moreover, why would you want to cross this coin anyway? I realize that it is hard to find with full split bands than some other dates, but the price premium isn't that great and most of the value of the coin would be consumed by grading fees and shipping.

coinman23885

P.S. PCGS will often ding coins for negative eye appeal. I don't know if the coin will cross. Maybe a quick dip in a light concentration dip will help the coin. I personally would leave it alone.

Nolawyer

Thanks for your input. I am looking to cross this one because the case is badly cracked. It doesn't affect the viewing of the coin, but it does the lower the price that I can ask for it. If this did cross, I would easily get my money back in a sale.

DIMEMAN

That black toning would probably dip off, but I like it the way it is. And I think it will cross fine.

Bochiman

Here's the thing about the toning....if it is old, and set in, dipping it may remove the surface and you won't have a nice looking coin (ie....you will have spots where the toning was but that look different from the rest of the coin since they will have lost the top layer of metal).

I dipped a very low value WLH once that had dark/black toning in a spot and that is what I noticed. I have also heard others say the same.

I do agree that, if a dip wouldn't harm it, then it would benefit it as that look is not a nice look.
Rest of the coin surface looks like it has nice luster.

fcloud

It is 50/50. Some cross some come back .92 (cleaned) I had too many coins come back as cleaned right out of old ANACS holders.

LanceNewmanOCC

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looks better than 65 and some very nice bands
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keyman64

From a perspective of nicks, I would say you have a 65...or maybe a 66, hard to tell from the photos and I am not sure if there is a bad nick in the middle of the nose or not. However, I have submitted a 64FB ANACS coin and had it come back as 62FB. I believe they did not like the toning on the coin. If I had your coin in hand and thought the luster was all there under the toning then I would use MS70(while wearing chemical gloves) on it via q-tip to very gently remove at least the majority of the grime then rinse thoroughly then air dry....then submit it to PCGS raw. That's what I would do.

Cougar1978

I would grade this coin MS 60, throw it back in the roll. The dark toning is horrible and detracting. I am not going to sugar coat this, it is an ugly low end coin and a candidate for a conversation service. If you think i am joking go start it on ebay at 99c.

The toning will only get worse as time goes on. I like coins that are brilliant, white, and PQ with exceptional luser. No spots or major marks. These coins are strong sellers.

MICHAELDIXON

I would grade this coin MS 60, throw it back in the roll. The dark toning is horrible and detracting. I am not going to sugar coat this, it is an ugly low end coin and a candidate for a conversation service. If you think i am joking go start it on ebay at 99c.

I don't know what coin you're looking at, but this one is a 65 in any holder. You may not like the toning, but it is original and not dipped out to look white. There are no major marks on the face or in the fields. I would cross it. I've put together and sold many sets over the years and have handled thousands of BU Mercury dimes, so I know something about grading them. I quit selling on Ebay 7 or 8 years ago whenever the scammers put a dent in people buying coins for anything reasonable.

ricko

Cougar1978 said it well... cleaning/dipping that crud/tarnish will likely result in more ugliness... Coins without environmental damage are preferred by many, tarnish hides defects.
Cheers, RickO

phnatacc

Better than 50/50 shot IMHO.

LeeBone

<< <i>It is 50/50. Some cross some come back .92 (cleaned) I had too many coins come back as cleaned right out of old ANACS holders. >>



I just cracked an Old Small ANACS Holder that had my coin as "Cleaned", sent it in raw to PCGS, and it now resides in a problem free holder.

You just never know...