<< <i>if the holder was tampered with in any way why does the tamper resistant hologram on the back still show that it is intact? I thought that was the whole point of having these holograms fused to the holders, that once it was messed with that the person could tell that it was tampered with. >>
The entire slab is cracked at the side seam; why would you think this would impact the hologram on the back in any way? >>
Then maybe they should develop something that whenever a holder is tampered with be it the front, back, sides or whatever that clues in the clueless that it was tampered with. Not saying it's practical but something along the lines of how NGC certifies GSA dollars.
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do people even look up these on ngc .....the coin is obviously very diferent, it even shows a diferent rotation in the holder and you can even see the different degrees of rotated dies, for starters. Look @ the coin on ebay in the holder, then look at the coin on NGC. Why are you bidding. Taht coin even isn't that grade, yet alone the damaged holder. I need to stop hanging out on these forums. You guys are actually bidding on this?
<< <i>do people even look up these on ngc .....the coin is obviously very diferent, it even shows a diferent rotation in the holder and you can even see the different degrees of rotated dies, for starters.
<< <i>do people even look up these on ngc .....the coin is obviously very diferent, it even shows a diferent rotation in the holder and you can even see the different degrees of rotated dies, for starters. Look @ the coin on ebay in the holder, then look at the coin on NGC. Why are you bidding. Taht coin even isn't that grade, yet alone the damaged holder. I need to stop hanging out on these forums. You guys are actually bidding on this?
Seller emailed me after I told him the issue. He told me he had no clue the holder was fake. I replied back and clarified that the holder is real (but tampered with) and that the coin is fake. He immediately replied back and said he just contacted NGC about the problem. I did not know NGC worked on Sundays...
Im not too sure of that. So far Ive experienced guys who bid $55k on fake coins, think class 6 doubling on an ASE is MD and ....still hoping you prove me wrong, but Thx Lance
You guys are too much. This thread did remind me that I had a MS red cent 55DD raw that I put in my top desk drawer 20 years ago. I no longer remember how I got it except that it was not purchased. I have no idea what came of it. Maybe I put it in a flip and it is in a box of stuff. If so it will be a discovery coin.
I just wonder if the seller takes the bids to be real (it IS possible) he might put more effort in the listing next time....maybe with no side pics...and try it on more coins that may slip through the "cracks"
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<< <i>An even $10K...and going. >>
lol
some people are having fun
if it is up for much longer i may get in on some of the fun
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<< <i>if the holder was tampered with in any way why does the tamper resistant hologram on the back still show that it is intact? I thought that was the whole point of having these holograms fused to the holders, that once it was messed with that the person could tell that it was tampered with. >>
The entire slab is cracked at the side seam; why would you think this would impact the hologram on the back in any way? >>
Then maybe they should develop something that whenever a holder is tampered with be it the front, back, sides or whatever that clues in the clueless that it was tampered with. Not saying it's practical but something along the lines of how NGC certifies GSA dollars.
Doug
Past $50K...........I really wanted this coin.....thanks for screwing it up for me......
......I collect old stuff......
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RAD#306
<< <i>do people even look up these on ngc .....the coin is obviously very diferent, it even shows a diferent rotation in the holder and you can even see the different degrees of rotated dies, for starters.
NGC >>
That's what makes it REALLY rare. Probably worth at least $100k.
<< <i>do people even look up these on ngc .....the coin is obviously very diferent, it even shows a diferent rotation in the holder and you can even see the different degrees of rotated dies, for starters. Look @ the coin on ebay in the holder, then look at the coin on NGC. Why are you bidding. Taht coin even isn't that grade, yet alone the damaged holder. I need to stop hanging out on these forums. You guys are actually bidding on this?
NGC >>
RAD#306
Bet it's back up in the next few days!!!!
Ike Specialist
Finest Toned Ike I've Ever Seen, been looking since 1986
<< <i>I will save myself the wasted time, back to the real forums...and away from here >>
<< <i>ok, who made him a 100k offer off of Ebay so they could get that expedited shipping at less than 2 bucks? >>
I think it was someone from the Coin Vault.
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Thanks for the info and I have ended the auction. >>
RAD#306
so you remember to do it
then the coin
I forget this myself a lot.
<< <i>seller looked like a pawn shop, did u tell the seller to look at the pictures on NGC , am I the only one that does this ?
coinflip, you are a little out of tune here.
What you're witnessing is expert collectors and dealers well aware of the situation. They're having a little fun, that's all.
Everyone here knows the cent it bogus. This is not your run-of-the-mill chatroom.
Sometimes, we try to make sure no novice gets stuck with a fake by bidding it into oblivion. No one really intends to buy it.
I prefer to just report it. But whatever.
Just thought you'd like to know.
Lance.
RAD#306
This thread did remind me that I had a MS red cent 55DD raw that I put in my top desk drawer 20 years ago. I no longer remember how I got it except that it was not purchased. I have no idea what came of it. Maybe I put it in a flip and it is in a box of stuff. If so it will be a discovery coin.
A new beast has been created
Go get em ebay....
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