New SMR: Dmitri has Shrunk!
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Great article on Dmitri Young selling his PSA 10 rookie baseball card collection in the latest SMR. All I can say is that 1) Dmitri is not the man he was when he played for my Detroit Tigers (referring to weight of course as he was nicknamed "D'MeatHook") according to the pictures, and 2) I don't think I'll be bidding on those cards, beautiful but way beyond my expense account!
Dmitri battled alcohol and substance abuse when with the Tigers and they released him just a month before the 2006 post season when they eventually played in the World Series. That had to be a real disappointment for him. He rekindled his career in Washington and I understand that since his diagnosis of diabetes he has worked hard to change his lifestyle in order to control the disease. The pictures in the artricle are no doubt a reflection of his efforts to manage diabetes through diet and exercise. Great story to go along with those great cards.
A couple years ago I put a 1971 Dave Concepcion PSA 9 rookie card out on eBay and the winning bidder was Dmitri. The only major leaguer whom I ever bought or sold a card on eBay.
Dmitri battled alcohol and substance abuse when with the Tigers and they released him just a month before the 2006 post season when they eventually played in the World Series. That had to be a real disappointment for him. He rekindled his career in Washington and I understand that since his diagnosis of diabetes he has worked hard to change his lifestyle in order to control the disease. The pictures in the artricle are no doubt a reflection of his efforts to manage diabetes through diet and exercise. Great story to go along with those great cards.
A couple years ago I put a 1971 Dave Concepcion PSA 9 rookie card out on eBay and the winning bidder was Dmitri. The only major leaguer whom I ever bought or sold a card on eBay.
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I thought it was his collection manager, or younger brother maybe.
Thanks, Jeff, for putting up the scans.
Should be interesting to see what prices they bring. Pretty cool
they put his name on the flip, too.
https://www.psacard.com/psasetregistry/pdub1819/othersets/6204
I'll get jumped on for saying this but couldn't knowing that you were grading Dimitri Young's cards cause the grader to have a bias toward a higher grade?
<< <i>How does one go about getting their name on the PSA label. When I start submitting cards I want them to say -- my name -- collection.
I'll get jumped on for saying this but couldn't knowing that you were grading Dimitri Young's cards cause the grader to have a bias toward a higher grade? >>
I think he was buying cards already grading a PSA 10 and was having them re-holdered with his name
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crazy...
I've got my eye on a handful of cards. Can't wait to see what happens during this auction!
Justin
Retired - Eddie Mathews Master Registry Set (96.36%) Rank 1
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The pictures in the artricle are no doubt a reflection of his efforts to manage diabetes through diet and exercise.
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If you actually took the time to read the article or have ever seen him (weight loss or not), you would know that the person depicted in the pictures is not Young.....
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The pictures in the artricle are no doubt a reflection of his efforts to manage diabetes through diet and exercise.
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If you actually took the time to read the article or have ever seen him (weight loss or not), you would know that the person depicted in the pictures is not Young.....
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I'm not convinced. Maybe I missed it...but where does it say who it is in the article?
Here is Dmitri. If it's not him, then they both have the same teeth, and similar arm tattoos.
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The pictures in the artricle are no doubt a reflection of his efforts to manage diabetes through diet and exercise.
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If you actually took the time to read the article or have ever seen him (weight loss or not), you would know that the person depicted in the pictures is not Young.....
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um, what????
This board is too funny sometimes...
Was that a joke or were you being serious?
The article is about him, why would they have photos of someone other then him?
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Was that a joke or were you being serious?
The article is about him, why would they have photos of someone other then him? >>
Its just an example of Ironmanfans' condescending attitude backfiring on him.
Since I initiated this thread and you cited a quote from what I wrote, I believe that I can honestly say in response:
1. (If you actually took the time to read the article)
I did read the article, several times in fact, which prompted me to write about it on the PSA message board.
2. (or have ever seen him (weight loss or not)
I have seen him play many times at Comerica Park and have seen him in person, although I have to admit he weighed in at what seemed
like 250 lbs at the time.
3. (you would know that the person depicted in the pictures is not Young)
Well, I don't know that at all, despite reading the article and seeing Dmitre Young in person. Weight loss can certainly change a person's
look and in this case the difference is amazing. However, the individual in the pictures certainly appears to be the Dmitre I remember...or I
guess he could be a doppelgänger. I am open to that possibility.
I just assumed it was since last time I saw Young he looked more like Prince Fielder!
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
Case closed.
Anyway I am a bit surprised by a few, several that.... Well the grades seem to be nice.
"Live everyday, don't throw it away"
There are also a few undeserving 10s that got serious love on grading day. The Brett mini RC is especially miscut on top, and might not even get holdered today. I've also seen PSA 9s of the Henderson that can hang with that 10 all day.
One has gotta really evaluate the card in the slab and allocate resources to the true 10s when bidding on these.
Also, he's missing the PSA 10 Mantle RC
My main thought.
It took years to find these gems. Why sell at once.. I hope he does well and shows this hobby is growing strong! But id be nervous selling them all at once like this. So many to chose from.
Amazing collection!
<< <i>Is it just my eyes playing tricks on me or is that Seaver RC a bit too OC to warrant a 10? >>
I agree. No way that card is a 10. Same for some of the others.
But some of Dmitri's 10s are so rare, he had no choice but to buy the holder and not the card.
<< <i>The right edge of the Aaron is consistent with many other 10s I've seen in PSA holders and appears to simply be the way that card was sometimes cut. >>
Completely agree. PSA regularly allows rough cut cards into 9 and 10 holders. Chipping is wear after the card was produced; rough cut was the way the card was produced and is not considered wear in the eyes of PSA. Personally, I think the Aaron is a legit 10.
I understand the rough cut concept, but that rough cut is not a minor one on the Aaron - if you look at the edge just lower and to the right of the team name, it cuts into the card quite a bit. I've had cards grade low for the same type of edge flaw. And I believe the fact that cards are cut that way at the factory shouldn't matter. You can say the same thing about O/C - that they are just cut that way at the factory.
<< <i>Well, the Seaver has a significant tilt that affects eye appeal, IMO. The tilt shouldn't keep it from a 9, but should keep it from a 10 especially on a card like that.
I understand the rough cut concept, but that rough cut is not a minor one on the Aaron - if you look at the edge just lower and to the right of the team name, it cuts into the card quite a bit. I've had cards grade low for the same type of edge flaw. And I believe the fact that cards are cut that way at the factory shouldn't matter. You can say the same thing about O/C - that they are just cut that way at the factory. >>
you definitely could make a valid argument about O/C cuts. I'm simply making the point that in my experience PSA doesn't discount rough cut edges on vintage cards--not arguing whether that is right or wrong. They clearly didn't discount the rough cut in the Aaron case which again, in my experience, is very consistent with other iconic vintage cards, notably the 56 Mantle. So, to me, the 10 isn't out of place.
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<< <i>The right edge of the Aaron is consistent with many other 10s I've seen in PSA holders and appears to simply be the way that card was sometimes cut. >>
Completely agree. PSA regularly allows rough cut cards into 9 and 10 holders. Chipping is wear after the card was produced; rough cut was the way the card was produced and is not considered wear in the eyes of PSA. Personally, I think the Aaron is a legit 10. >>
Not all of them are rough cut. Other cards are almost always off-center...why don't they get a pass? It's inconsistent.
<< <i>And I believe the fact that cards are cut that way at the factory shouldn't matter. >>
If PSA did not allow any rough cuts to be in a 9 or 10 holder, what would the pop of PSA 9 and 10 OPCs be? All of the legit non sheet-cut Gretzky OPC RCs in 9 and 10 all have the rough cut.
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<< <i>The right edge of the Aaron is consistent with many other 10s I've seen in PSA holders and appears to simply be the way that card was sometimes cut. >>
Completely agree. PSA regularly allows rough cut cards into 9 and 10 holders. Chipping is wear after the card was produced; rough cut was the way the card was produced and is not considered wear in the eyes of PSA. Personally, I think the Aaron is a legit 10. >>
Not all of them are rough cut. Other cards are almost always off-center...why don't they get a pass? It's inconsistent. >>
Inconsistent between O/C and Rough cut in that they both occurred during production yet one impacts the grade and the other doesn't? Agreed.
But my point was that PSA is pretty darn consistent in how it treats rough cuts--that is, they do not discount them when grading the card.
Kaline RC PSA 10
On cards that have major significance in 10, if it's a card that does not always have a natural rough cut, and if the rough cut crosses the edge into the card, then I'd rather see it in a 9.
Maybe I'm just bitter cuz all my rough cuts seem to get 8s.
The tilt on the Seaver RC would drive me nuts. It distracts from the overall eye appeal. Also a noticeable tilt on the Munson RC PSA 10. A few fisheyes here and there on the Joe Morgan RC and the Steve Carlton RC, etc, etc.
Overall, though, it's hard to be too critical of these cards because they are simply amazing and I would be proud to own any one of them.
Good for him to work at controlling his disease !! The majority of diabetic patients my wife sees infuriate her because they just don't want to change regardless of the dire
consequences. I mentioned earlier that she is speaking on a panel in May, with Lou Brock, about diabetes. Evidently he volunteers quite a bit of time towards awareness.
P.S. TigerDean, I did not forget about her getting an autograph for you.