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Poppage- Very quick; but not good. Not happy. "SCANS ADDED"

Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭✭
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The 60's and 63's were as clean as they come. Not happy about this sub at all. I couldn't believe when it popped this quick. Logged in 1 day and popped in 3.

1 1 19854819 EXCELLENT-MINT+ 6.5 1962 TOPPS 84 ART HUNTER Card
2 1 19854820 NEAR MINT 7 1962 TOPPS 41 DON PERKINS Card
3 1 19854821 NEAR MINT 7 1962 TOPPS 69 FUZZY THURSTON Card
4 1 19854822 NEAR MINT 7 1962 TOPPS 54 JIM GIBBONS Card
5 1 19854823 NEAR MINT 7 1962 TOPPS 45 JERRY TUBBS Card
6 1 19854824 N1: EVIDENCE OF TRIMMING 1962 TOPPS 172 BOB TONEFF Card
7 1 19854825 NEAR MINT 7 1962 TOPPS 167 SAM HORNER Card
8 1 19854826 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1962 TOPPS 31 JOHN MORROW Card
9 1 19854827 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1960 TOPPS 92 PHILADELPHIA EAGLES Card
10 1 19854828 NEAR MINT 7 1960 TOPPS 9 JOHNNY SAMPLE Card
11 1 19854829 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1960 TOPPS 126 BILL ANDERSON Card
12 1 19854830 NEAR MINT 7 1960 TOPPS 13 RICK CASARES Card
13 1 19854831 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1960 TOPPS 86 BOBBY WALSTON Card
14 1 19854832 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1960 TOPPS 96 PRESTON CARPENTER Card
15 1 19854833 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1960 TOPPS 17 STAN JONES Card
16 1 19854834 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1960 TOPPS 61 BILL WADE Card
17 1 19854835 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1960 TOPPS 119 MATT HAZELTINE Card
18 1 19854836 NEAR MINT 7 1963 TOPPS 92 RON KRAMER Card
19 1 19854837 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1963 TOPPS 48 LOS ANGELES RAMS TEAM Card
20 1 19854838 NEAR MINT 7 1963 TOPPS 99 TOMMY MASON Card
21 1 19854839 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1963 TOPPS 30 JIM GIBBONS Card
22 1 19854840 NEAR MINT 7 1963 TOPPS 40 JON ARNETT Card
23 1 19854841 NEAR MINT 7 1963 TOPPS 39 DICK BASS Card
24 1 19854842 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1963 TOPPS 41 JIM PHILLIPS Card
25 1 19854843 NEAR MINT 7 1963 TOPPS 138 TOMMY DAVIS Card
26 1 19854844 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1963 TOPPS 141 ABE WOODSON Card
27 1 19854845 NEAR MINT 7 1963 TOPPS 97 GREEN BAY PACKERS TEAM Card
28 1 19854846 NEAR MINT 7 1963 TOPPS 90 FUZZY THURSTON Card
29 1 19854847 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1963 TOPPS 12 BALTIMORE COLTS TEAM Card
30 1 19854848 NEAR MINT 7 1963 TOPPS 29 HARLEY SEWELL Card
31 1 19854849 NEAR MINT 7 1962 TOPPS 83 FRANK VARRICHIONE Card
32 1 19854850 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1962 TOPPS 65 TOM MOORE Card
33 1 19854851 NEAR MINT 7 1962 TOPPS 144 SONNY RANDLE Card
34 1 19854852 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1972 TOPPS 302 MIKE LUCCI Card
35 1 19854853 NEAR MINT 7 1956 TOPPS 21 JOE COLLINS GRAY BACK Card
36 1 19854854 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1959 TOPPS 376 HAL NARAGON Card
37 1 19854855 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1965 TOPPS 410 LUIS APARICIO Card
38 1 19854856 NEAR MINT 7 1973 TOPPS 255 REGGIE JACKSON Card
39 1 19854857 NEAR MINT 7 1973 TOPPS 220 NOLAN RYAN Card
40 1 19854858 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 TOPPS 1 HANK AARON Card

Total Items: 40
Date Received: 4/10/2012
Date Shipped: 4/13/2012
Order Status: Shipped

After reviewing some of them...I'm still not very happy. The 63's are solid and the 62's they were tough on. I will scan a few of the head scratchers. There were alot more than just these. I think these were all 8's easily. Now remember these are large close up scans that enhance every flaw.

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Comments

  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,443 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice turn around. Wish you were happy. Looks like some nice stuff. 1963s are very tough and looks like you had some nice ones.
  • Scottiec2288Scottiec2288 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭
    Sometimes it makes you scratch your head and say what are they looking at!! I know you have a great eye for what the grades should be and it sucks when they don't come back what you thought..I also sent you a pm
  • bbuckner22bbuckner22 Posts: 1,028 ✭
    I just had a sub pop in two days last week. 100+ 1965's that I thought were some of the cleanest raw cards I have submitted in a long time. Not one 9, the majority of the cards came back 7's. Got them back and I'm scratching my head as to why cards centered 50/50 with sharp corners couldn't at least pull 8's. Worst sub result I think I've ever had.
    From what I can tell, 707 is the DOLLAR STORE compared to deans_cards. For what that guy charges, if I ever bought anything from him I would expect it to be delivered to me in a frickin' limo.
    ~WalterSobchak
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,443 ✭✭✭✭✭
    They do seem to go in waves. Tough 3 months then not so tough. Not saying thats true. but a feeling.
  • swartz1swartz1 Posts: 4,911 ✭✭✭
    throw up some scans when u get em back...


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  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭✭
    I will post a few scans when I get them back. The 60's and 63's I thought were extra clean. The 62's (football) are what I believe the biggest crapshoot in all of grading. The most inconsistant of all of the sets as far as grading. You never know what you are going to get. The 63's are easy to grade with the bright colors and easy to judge centering.
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,443 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Agree. Those years are just a crap shoot. Ive had the worst luck over the years with 1960 FB topps personaly. Not sure what they want when I send them in. Ill buy 8s that look like 6s but I send in what looks better than that 8 and I gets 7s. 1960-1963 FB is hard to grade. But 7-8s on your sub Id be happy with. Looked like a solid sub.
  • pmcollectourpmcollectour Posts: 1,211 ✭
    Sent in 16 box bottoms, all cut the same size.

    8 came back PSA 9's

    8 came back Authentic.


    Seems like everyone's getting the screws right now.
    Hopefully there's some success stories out there.
  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have a 110 card order im waiting on. Got my fingers crossed on some good grades!
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  • initialDinitialD Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭
    ISTHTY, I am sure these are all lookers too

    I just had two 100+ subs pop today pretty quickly, one all 60's and another all 70's (few 80's and some OPC's too)

    Got a pretty consistent grader too, I think I got a fair shake of the usual imageimageimageimage
  • fiveninerfiveniner Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭
    It happens.I had sent in some super clean 51 Bowman football That I thought most would come back as 7s at least.Did I get a shock when they came back(see registery).I guess it is what it is.Your grades are awesome IMO.
    Tony(AN ANGEL WATCHES OVER ME)
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    surprised you didn't receive more half grades.....it seems to be a cushion of comfort for the New Era.

    each of my 2 most recent subs were 100 piece orders and each came home with a full 20% including the point 5.

    i don't know what to make of this.....so many of my past subs have been pretty straight on and it's easy to say an 8 is an 8, a 9 is a 9, but, now i'm perplexed.

    is 7.5 the new 8 or the new 7? is 6.5 the new 7 or the new 6 or the new king of the Bargain Box?

    what am i supposed to do with all these "not quite good enough" or "maybe just a little better" cards? image

    consider yourself fortunate, maybe. image
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,178 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry to hear that. It'll be interesting to see the scans. I hope the grader of death hasn't returned. I just dropped off 1000+ cards for grading, mostly mid-70s baseball. If they slam me with a lot of 7s and 8s I'll call them to review before they ship it back to me. I pulled any card with a corner touch, worse than 60-40 centering (save for a few), any print defects and any surface bubbles or divits.
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  • bbuckner22bbuckner22 Posts: 1,028 ✭
    Same thing here, 20% of the cards came back with half grades. Never had that happen before
    From what I can tell, 707 is the DOLLAR STORE compared to deans_cards. For what that guy charges, if I ever bought anything from him I would expect it to be delivered to me in a frickin' limo.
    ~WalterSobchak
  • MattyCMattyC Posts: 1,335 ✭✭
    I wouldn't be surprised if they give fewer half grades on a raw sub just to encourage reviews for the half point bump. They have to know that reviews and crack-resubs are a healthy source of their revenue, so why not harsh all over an initial sub and goose the gravy train along? I also think some of the cause for certain subs having lots of .5s and others not is due to individual grader preference that day.

    Third party grading is awesome for the hobby, there is no question about that. But it's a business as well, and they have their customers' psychology all mapped out-- and play us accordingly, lol.
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,443 ✭✭✭✭✭
    but we know they know so they know we know so who knows? But they know?
    Lets all eat some cake!

    This hurt my head.
  • MattyCMattyC Posts: 1,335 ✭✭
    Brilliant.

    And too true!
  • LakersFANLakersFAN Posts: 288 ✭✭
    Logged in 1 day ? wow nice , how is that when mine has been sitting their since 4/5 and still no loggage today ?image
  • Jmhockey23Jmhockey23 Posts: 652 ✭✭


    << <i>Logged in 1 day ? wow nice , how is that when mine has been sitting their since 4/5 and still no loggage today ?image >>



    I had a sub delivered on 4/2 that just logged today..so there may be hope for you soon!
  • LakersFANLakersFAN Posts: 288 ✭✭
    so within the Next couple days if trend conitnues!image
  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭✭
    TTT for a few scans.
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,443 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Collis is clean. But he has the herp! JK. Clean cards buddy. Send again.
  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭✭
    When I looked through the 2 boxes...they were tight on pretty much all the cards. Not 1 tweener got a bump either. A couple of my 8's I thought were 9's for sure....but no dice.
  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    I agree they were a little tough on those
    I see some 8s (Davis, Randle, Horner) but I also see some with touches on 3-4 corners - those will probably stay at 7
  • ToroToro Posts: 1,515
    All look fairly graded IMO, corner touches and print issues will keep them in 7 holders where they should be.
  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 12,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the grades are a little tough on you, yes there appear to be some cards with 3 "touched" corners, but there certainly could have been a few 7.5's in there.

    I had a small sub pop the other day and was very disappointed in a couple of my grades as well. I think PSA has become a bit too strict and forgets about the half grade too often.

    Joe
    2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
  • bobbybakerivbobbybakeriv Posts: 2,186 ✭✭✭✭
    I agree that they were tough on you. Nice cards all the same!
  • PiggsPiggs Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭✭
    I was also thinking along with where are all the half grades? Some are worthy for sure.
  • spazzyspazzy Posts: 592 ✭✭
    Totally agree...there could have been a bump or two. How many different graders review the card before it is given an opinion?
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