Help needed old PCGS Holders and 2 Comms Gettysburg & Antietam

GBurger717

I just purchased 2 Comms in the older PCGS slabs and need to ask some advise from forum members. I know nothing about these holders except they are old.First what type of holder is this and what year where they used? Should I leave them the way they are or send them back for a regrade or CAC them? Are they undergraded or over graded? Please any help you can provide will be great!

They main reason I bought them was due to my love on the Civil War not the holder.

Thanks in advance

AMRC

Some folks like to collect coins in the old holders, but as a matter of policy coins over a certain dollar value all go back in for regrading (especially those in old holders) and then off to CAC for their opinion. Then they go onto market. My last submission was 4 various Commem's. One in 65 the rest were in 66, but all were in old holders. They all came back in 66. The grading more than paid for itself and now the coins are at CAC. I have had many times that there were no upgrades as well, but still way net ahead using this process.

messydesk

Cannot tell if they're accurately graded by today's standards from the pictures. If you like them as they are and don't care about holders, you may as well leave them as they are. There's not much spread between a 63 and a 64 as far as the value is concerned. The time to think about regrading or seeking stickers is right before you sell them.

LindeDad

Those are called the rattles the first of PCGS slabs. Another member and myself were discussing them the other day and came to the conclusion that by now most do not carry any holder premium any more. Used to be people thought all of them were under graded and were paying extra for them. Now a days the feeling is that the under-graded ones have pretty well left the house by being regraded. With that said there are still deals to be made on them especially when a coin has been off the market for years locked in somebodies safe and goes out at auction and one is lucky enough to fly under the radar on it.
As mentioned those images are not good enough to tell if you got a deal or just got a solid coin.

fivecents

Beautiful commems. I would keep them in the rattlers.

Kove

As a guy who collects commems in rattlers, I would leave those coins right where they're at. The difference between 63 and 64 on both coins is nil, and there's not even much difference between 63 and 65 on the Antietam. If it were me, I wouldn't send those to CAC either, as a green sticker confirming a 63 grade on a rattler commem won't do you any good at all. If you're very confident of a gold sticker, you could try CAC, otherwise I'd just enjoy them as-is.

BillJones

Some, BUT NOT ALL, coins that are in PCGS "rattle holders" are under graded. Just because it is in a "rattle holder" does not mean that it will automatically up grade.

I can only pass the opinion that the two pieces you have look to have been dipped. As such it's usually hard for dipped commemorative coins to get beyond MS-64, or at least that's been my experience. As such I'd leave these coins alone unless they are rattling in the holders, and it bugs you. In that case I’d get them re-holdered. Otherwise I’d leave them alone.

lcoopie

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GBurger717

Thanks to all who replyed. I was just unsure what to do but now I think I will leave them for what they are! They guy who was selling them used a picture of a Confederate flag for the picture on the auction and has the photos you see in the listing. I asked the seller and he said he got them from an estate sale so who knows the truth though. Thanks again to all

roadrunner

There are lots of classic commens and common date Morgan/Peace dollars still in rattlers. And the main reason is because most are properly graded as is. The standards for
MS63 commems hasn't really changed much from 1988 to today. It's the higher grades where standards tended to slip (ie MS65 and higher). Leave 'em as is. Someday even
common coins in rattlers will be a fairly scarce occurrence.

dizzyfoxx

Can't quite tell from the pics on the Getty, but what appears to be that tic on General Lee's nose on the Antietam will keep it in a 63 holder. I would leave those two right where they are, nicely rested in old rattlers.