Hannes Tulving Slabs

thecointrader

I just picked up this odd group of Franklins, paid about $80 for the lot. I'm not familiar with these Hannes Tulving slabs, but I figured I couldn't go wrong for the price.

Can someone enlighten me about the Tulving slabs? I'm assuming these are pre-PCGS. Should I keep these in the old slabs or crack 'em?

ColonelKlinck

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Tulving was a bullion dealer not so long ago (2000-2005) if I remember. Can't comment on the slabs as I know nothing......NOTHING about them. Looks as if you got a good deal, though.

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truthteller

Hannes Tulving Co. is still around. They were a major market maker in the 2000-2007 market runnup. They were noted to be one of PCGS best customers submitting thousands of coins every week for the modern market. I don't know their market share today since Hannes had a stroke a few years back.

Hannes Tulving created their own slab in the mid 1980's and into the early 1990's. They issued their own private buy/sell sheet for their slabbed coins. By today's standards, many of the Hannes slabs were graded conservatively and often grade higher when submitted to PCGS or NGC.



TRUTH

abitofthisabitofthat

They are still active in the bullion market. I am not aware of them dealing anything but bullion currently, but I could be wrong.

guitarwes

Thruth's got it right. You did well getting all these for ~ $80.

Russ

I have several 1964 proof Kennedys in those slabs, and every one of them is graded PR64 just like those Frankies.

Russ, NCNE

kranky

So you paid less than melt? Seems like you can't really go wrong there.

I have a whole box of Tulving slabs, a constant reminder of my poor judgment of years ago. Maybe slab collectors down the road will bail me out.

astrorat

These slabs come around every so often, but not as much as a few years ago. For a "self-slabber" the coins seemed to be accurately graded at the time they were slabbed. The hard part is finding slabs where the label is not damaged or the price has not been marked through.

Cameonut

I guess I am coming in late, but thought I would post my Tulving "slab". More like an early David Hall flip - sonically sealed and the coin is in a Cointain to protect it from the PVC.

Cougar1978

I would crack them and either put them in my own holder (with my grade and price) or submit them. Looks like you got a nice deal on them as they melt for 11.52 each or 92.13 for the group. Cant tell much from the lighting in the photo but I would wager many of them may be better than just PF 64.

Thanks for sharing - looks like a nice group of Franklin Proofs!

JCMhouston

Tulving was a major market maker in the 90's. After his consent decree with the Feds he paid a fine, and was supposed to pay back around $10,000,000 that he defrauded customers out of. These look from that time period although I am surprised they were graded so low. He declared bancruptcy after agreeing to the settlement to get rid of another $40 mill or so in civil suits.

He now runs a bullion business where you wire him money and then he will ship you bullion.

Really, you can't make this stuff up.

http://articles.latimes.com/1991-01-16/business/fi-266_1_coin-dealers

Wabbit2313

I have a bunch of these. They are quite easy to "crack out". Just push those little tabs.

The Morgan I sent in was Tulving 61, PCGS saw it at 64. I may not crack any more because they are cool little slabs.

Timbuk3

Nice pick-ups. I'd leave them
alone !!!

SanctionII

Check the 1961 proof half dollars to see if any of them are the valuable Double Die Reverse Variety [there are multiple varieties of 1961 DDR proof half dollars, one of which is very valuable].

Elcontador

<< <i>Hannes Tulving Co. is still around. They were a major market maker in the 2000-2007 market runnup. They were noted to be one of PCGS best customers submitting thousands of coins every week for the modern market. I don't know their market share today since Hannes had a stroke a few years back.

Hannes Tulving created their own slab in the mid 1980's and into the early 1990's. They issued their own private buy/sell sheet for their slabbed coins. By today's standards, many of the Hannes slabs were graded conservatively and often grade higher when submitted to PCGS or NGC.


TRUTH >>



Correct me if I am mistaken, but I remember them as being a big fish in the early bullion run-up of 1979-1980. They were part of the first large group which tried to market generic Unc. coins - especially Morgan Dollars - to investors.

This was right around the time I got my GSA CC $s from the Mint, and I learned long before this not to trust entities to correctly grade the product which they were selling.

I don't know about Truth's comments re the grading of their own coins in the mid-1980s. But I am curious as to whether I am correct in my comments here and furthermore, whether such Morgans, which I think were sold in the thousands, were correctly graded.

derryb

<< <i>Tulving was a major market maker in the 90's. After his consent decree with the Feds he paid a fine, and was supposed to pay back around $10,000,000 that he defrauded customers out of. These look from that time period although I am surprised they were graded so low. He declared bancruptcy after agreeing to the settlement to get rid of another $40 mill or so in civil suits.

He now runs a bullion business where you wire him money and then he will ship you bullion.

Really, you can't make this stuff up.

http://articles.latimes.com/1991-01-16/business/fi-266_1_coin-dealers >>


his coin business went belly up in 1991, but his bullion business is thriving and has a great reputation for service and quantity bullion at great prices. I buy all of my quantity from them and highly recommend them to the quantity buyers.

johnny9434

them are different and it looks good on the pick ups you got there