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Someone wants to purchase a coin you have listed in the BST forum. You really don't wan't to deal with that person because either you've had dealings with them in the past and they didn't go smoothly or you've heard from others or witnessed that there could be potential problems. How would you handle it if they inquire about the coin?
With Ebay you have the ability to block a bidder. What do you do here?
With Ebay you have the ability to block a bidder. What do you do here?
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In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
<< <i>It's your coin, sell it to whom you want. Politely decline the request to buy. You do not need to go into any detail if you do not feel so inclined. >>
Perfect
Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
US Rare Coin Investments
800-624-1870
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<< <i>It's your coin, sell it to whom you want. Politely decline the request to buy. You do not need to go into any detail if you do not feel so inclined. >>
Perfect >>
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RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'
CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
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<< <i>It's your coin, sell it to whom you want. Politely decline the request to buy. You do not need to go into any detail if you do not feel so inclined. >>
Perfect >>
Yes, I agree. But then you should be prepared to ignore the barrage of PMs and the thread the would-be buyer will likely post to the forum trying to paint you as negatively as possible.
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<< <i>It's your coin, sell it to whom you want. Politely decline the request to buy. You do not need to go into any detail if you do not feel so inclined. >>
Perfect >>
Yes, I agree. But then you should be prepared to ignore the barrage of PMs and the thread the would-be buyer will likely post to the forum trying to paint you as negatively as possible. >>
You can always put a forum member on the Ignore User list for private messages. Of course, that would not stop them from making a thread. By the way, I would have sent this to you via PM, but I have you blocked.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
If it's info from other members, let them know you've checked references and would prefer not to deal with them. State firmly that you will not share information with them on who you discussed it with if you'd prefer not to tell them.
Dont feel forced to do business with someone you don't want to.
Please visit my website Millcitynumismatics.com
"The silver is mine and the gold is mine,' declares the LORD GOD Almighty."
<< <i>Just tell the truth. I don't like you and i won't sell you my coin. >>
Coin's for sale/trade.
Tom Pilitowski
US Rare Coin Investments
800-624-1870
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Louis
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<< <i>You can always put a forum member on the Ignore User list for private messages. Of course, that would not stop them from making a thread. By the way, I would have sent this to you via PM, but I have you blocked.
Ouch!
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i>Just tell the truth. I don't like you and i won't sell you my coin. >>
In theory that is the best way to go. But with some of the jerks that are active on the forum, it could turn into a 100 post flame thread about the would-be seller or worse. Be careful.
In business, I work with a lot of temps. I always strive to treat everyone with respect, professional courtesy, and try at least to be surface level friendly. This even though I may not like them, even if I have a hard time getting along with them. One big reason is that anyone can go "postal" and show up to work with a gun and start mowing people down. A person never knows.
Some folks on the forum, especially the precious metals forum, have shown their extreme temper, extreme sensitivity to minor slights, while openly bragging about their gun(s) and ability to use them. Tread carefully. There is no need to be rude to anyone, or go out of the way to put someone down.
<< <i>It's your coin, sell it to whom you want. Politely decline the request to buy. You do not need to go into any detail if you do not feel so inclined. >>
I agree. A simple "it's unavailable" should suffice.
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<< <i>It's your coin, sell it to whom you want. Politely decline the request to buy. You do not need to go into any detail if you do not feel so inclined. >>
I agree. A simple "it's unavailable" should suffice. >>
I agree in part, but to say "it's unavailable" would be a lie. The coin is available according to this hypothetical exercise.
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<< <i> I agree in part, but to say "it's unavailable" would be a lie. The coin is available according to this hypothetical exercise. >>
It's called "a little white lie" and it's used to spare someone's feelings or to avoid conflict.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i> I agree in part, but to say "it's unavailable" would be a lie. The coin is available according to this hypothetical exercise. >>
It's called "a little white lie" and it's used to spare someone's feelings or to avoid conflict. >>
Maybe so, but someone wants to buy a coin. It's listed. That means someone wants to sell a coin. We're looking for a "workaround". Work with me here.
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
<< <i> I agree in part, but to say "it's unavailable" would be a lie. The coin is available according to this hypothetical exercise. >>
If the seller isn't willing to sell to the prospective buyer, then the coin really isn't available, is it?
I wouldn't get into it with an initial email/reply, but I would be very at easy in telling anyone, in your "hypothetical" situation, that:
"I am sorry, but we can't do the deal together. Thanks for inquiring though".
If they pressed, I would just tell them "I think it best that we don't transact together and we leave it at that".
If someone didn't want to deal with me, my loss if I really wanted the coin, but most likely, I wouldn't have contacted them anyway
I am against saying "the coin is unavailable" if you really want to sell it. I think that is a "white lie" and I do prefer to be upfront and honest.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
and don't ship until you have funds in hand. Not a big deal.
bob
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>Someone wants to purchase a coin you have listed in the BST forum. You really don't wan't to deal with that person because either you've had dealings with them in the past and they didn't go smoothly or you've heard from others or witnessed that there could be potential problems. How would you handle it if they inquire about the coin?
With Ebay you have the ability to block a bidder. What do you do here? >>
u might want to have someone fix your website...
<< <i>What if the buyer is a suspected coin doctor that AT's coins? Should you tell him why you won't sell him your coin? >>
You think you'll hurt his feelings?
<< <i>What if the buyer is a suspected coin doctor that AT's coins? Should you tell him why you won't sell him your coin? >>
If you want to ask a new question, I think you should start a new thread.
<< <i>What happens when you tell them no longer available then you TTT the thread. I just block them. >>
Most prospective buyers that have a 'history' that includes unfortunate episodes on the forum, would rather not have that rehashed. I don't think that any seller need fear telling a prospective buyer that a coin is not for sale.
RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'
CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
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<< <i> I agree in part, but to say "it's unavailable" would be a lie. The coin is available according to this hypothetical exercise. >>
If the seller isn't willing to sell to the prospective buyer, then the coin really isn't available, is it?
This is exactly what I meant "it isn't available (to you)." Notice that I didn't say the coin had been sold or was no longer for sale. I would simply say it is unavailable, which can be for many reasons. I see no need for elaboration nor would I waste my time with further detail. If they saw a thread bump (i.e. TTT), I wouldn't really care personally.
If you think I'm slicing the salami too thin here, then how about "I am unable to carryout this transaction at this time"?
<< <i>I don't want the drama, but I am also an honest person.
I am against saying "the coin is unavailable" if you really want to sell it. I think that is a "white lie" and I do prefer to be upfront and honest. >>
I'm an honest person too, and I see nothing wrong with my original statement. It is "not available" doesn't mean that the coin has been sold or removed from the market; it means you cannot have it personally. This may be vague, but I don't see it a misleading, but to each his own.
<< <i>What happens when you tell them no longer available then you TTT the thread. I just block them. >>
A.) How would they know that you did not receive the coin back as a return? (I am NOT suggesting that you misrepresent the truth here; I'm just throwing out a plausible hypothetical).
B.) If they haven't contemplated the possibility of point A, and they contact you again, my second reply would be the same. After the first or second time, they should get the subtle hint and go away. Voila! If this doesn't work, then block him or her.
Lance.
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<< <i>Someone wants to purchase a coin you have listed in the BST forum. You really don't wan't to deal with that person because either you've had dealings with them in the past and they didn't go smoothly or you've heard from others or witnessed that there could be potential problems. How would you handle it if they inquire about the coin?
With Ebay you have the ability to block a bidder. What do you do here? >>
u might want to have someone fix your website... >>
I'm working on it. I've been calling several companies and met with someone yesterday morning. They are working up a quote for me. It will probably be another month or so before we have it redesigned and up and running.
For those wondering if it really is a hypothetical question, it is. I don't have any coins listed now and haven't for a while.
Jade Rare Coin eBay Listings
No Way Out: Stimulus and Money Printing Are the Only Path Left
<< <i>"I have checked your references and decided it best to find another seller." >>
Fixed it for you.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i> I agree in part, but to say "it's unavailable" would be a lie. The coin is available according to this hypothetical exercise. >>
If the seller isn't willing to sell to the prospective buyer, then the coin really isn't available, is it?
I will defer to my first post. I personally cannot see telling or trying to justify a lie. Let's be honest here.
What does the thread title say ? "It's LISTED". Hello ? Anyone know what "listed" means ? Is that like "On display ?" I suppose a museum will "list" items for viewing, and people pay admission to look.
Anyway, I got no dog in this fight & no bone to pick. As a matter of fact, the more I post , the more it seems people don't want to address the subject in the OP, rather they want to quote me and deal with me. I'll sell the guy a coin for more than the current ask price.... hypothetically , of course.
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<< <i>will you sell me coin then twosides2acoin...pretty pwease >>
I'll have to see if the OP will sell it to me, first
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One could simply not respond to the inquiry.
<< <i>What does the thread title say ? "It's LISTED". Hello ? Anyone know what "listed" means ? Is that like "On display ?" I suppose a museum will "list" items for viewing, and people pay admission to look. >>
Just because it's listed doesn't mean it hasn't already been sold or that a sale isn't pending. The seller could be waiting for payment. I bought some silver off the current BST thread and it arrived a few days ago but it's still listed on the BST thread. Happens all the time.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>What happens when you tell them no longer available then you TTT the thread. I just block them. >>
What good does that do since they don't know they've been blocked?