Is my new 1883 No Cents V Nickel a Proof or a Business Strike? **Ancient Thread Update - 08-15-22
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Update 8/15/22:
Since someone else revived this thread, I'll share that PCGS graded this one MS63. https://www.pcgs.com/cert/37335084
I think I know the answer, but thought it'd make a good educational thread for the benefit of the board.
I was looking through my B&M's box of raw nickels yesterday and came across this coin which has reflective fields and an excellent strike (see the bottom left ear on the reverse). It really stood out to me, so I took it home. Upon closer review and comparison to Coin Facts coins and some posts on the forum I've made up my mind as to whether it's a proof or business strike...What do you think?
If you need a little help deciding, you may reference this thread, but be forewarned, it'll give you the answer pretty definitively.
Since someone else revived this thread, I'll share that PCGS graded this one MS63. https://www.pcgs.com/cert/37335084
I think I know the answer, but thought it'd make a good educational thread for the benefit of the board.
I was looking through my B&M's box of raw nickels yesterday and came across this coin which has reflective fields and an excellent strike (see the bottom left ear on the reverse). It really stood out to me, so I took it home. Upon closer review and comparison to Coin Facts coins and some posts on the forum I've made up my mind as to whether it's a proof or business strike...What do you think?
If you need a little help deciding, you may reference this thread, but be forewarned, it'll give you the answer pretty definitively.
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....well...that was as clear as mud....detail on ears of corn tells me it's a proof......dies cracks tell me it's a business strike. I'm sticking with business strike. Proof coins weren't used enough for the die to erode and crack, IMO. I'm guessing it happened at times though.
Tom
Eric
no call here crowd...
strange thing those lib nickels on telling proof from ms
easy when the mirrors are there or frosted like a birthday cake...but here....hmmm
no mirrors...actually some scatter going on in the fields
devices look as sharp as can be...most do though on ms n proof
the edge is square...this tends to lean me towards proof
but those fields...the scatter in them and no mirrors...
no call here but i did vote bizz strike
merse
<< <i>....well...that was as clear as mud....detail on ears of corn tells me it's a proof......dies cracks tell me it's a business strike. I'm sticking with business strike. Proof coins weren't used enough for the die to erode and crack, IMO. I'm guessing it happened at times though. >>
The ear of corn is what really throws me as well. If you look in CoinFacts there isn't a single business strike that has the same level of detail in that ear. And then there's this Snow guy who speaks somewhat authoritatively that there aren't any die cracks on proofs. So what's a guy to do?
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OK . . . now I'll go read the other thread . . .
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<< <i>....well...that was as clear as mud....detail on ears of corn tells me it's a proof......dies cracks tell me it's a business strike. I'm sticking with business strike. Proof coins weren't used enough for the die to erode and crack, IMO. I'm guessing it happened at times though. >>
The ear of corn is what really throws me as well. If you look in CoinFacts there isn't a single business strike that has the same level of detail in that ear. And then there's this Snow guy who speaks somewhat authoritatively that there aren't any die cracks on proofs. So what's a guy to do? >>
I'm pretty sure early capped bust proofs had die cracks on them.
I think it's BS anyway.
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<< <i>....well...that was as clear as mud....detail on ears of corn tells me it's a proof......dies cracks tell me it's a business strike. I'm sticking with business strike. Proof coins weren't used enough for the die to erode and crack, IMO. I'm guessing it happened at times though. >>
The ear of corn is what really throws me as well. If you look in CoinFacts there isn't a single business strike that has the same level of detail in that ear. And then there's this Snow guy who speaks somewhat authoritatively that there aren't any die cracks on proofs. So what's a guy to do? >>
I'm pretty sure early capped bust proofs had die cracks on them.
I think it's BS anyway. >>
I'm sure some exist. In any event, I still think BS. And had I not read the link, nothing would have jumped out at me to indicate proof.
Tom
<< <i>Die crack through STATES, business strike I think. >>
I'm not seeing the die crack, it looks like a stray mark to me since it seems to run onto the left side of the second T in STATES.
@Realone, fair enough, I don't know enough to argue.
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<< <i>Die crack through STATES, business strike I think. >>
I'm not seeing the die crack, it looks like a stray mark to me since it seems to run onto the left side of the second T in STATES. >>
Looks like a die crack to me, but need the OP to check the coin in hand.
The coin has an attractive toning, and as indicated an exceptional strike. It was bought as a business strike, and with the hope that perhaps it was a proof, but I'm happy to have it as an example in my collection, even as a business strike.
Ive always believed tha type A reverse (hand engraved, slightly diff lettering positioning, doubled S then corrected) is only used on tha proof issue. Type B reverse (normal) is known for buisness strikes. Someone correct if not consistant.
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Since someone revived the thread, I'll update that this one was graded MS63 by PCGS. https://pcgs.com/cert/37335084