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Listening to CNN tonight ... Those Delegates!

MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,014 ✭✭✭✭✭
buy your PMs now.

the 2012 prophecy is true.


CNN has predicted it.


What will all those confused Delegates and Super Delegates do when it comes time to vote??? Some will vote for Mitt, Some for Rick, Some for Newt.


But there are few full blown majority wins. Who will they vote for?!?!?


Implosion. End of The World. You heard it here first.


(Why is CNN making it seem that choosing a candidate will be an impossible and thus head exploding task for the Rep. Party???!!!???)

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  • RedTigerRedTiger Posts: 5,608
    An open convention is extremely unlikely, even though the news folks are rooting for that because it would make their lives interesting. Count the committed delegates. As long as Romney has more than all the other candidates combined, an open convention is extremely unlikely.

    Keep in mind that CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC basically work for the Obama reelection campaign. Obama support is at 95% for paid staffers at these networks and they no longer even try to be balanced. Filter everything through that, and it all makes sense. The bad part is that a good percentage of Americans still get their information primarily from network TV, and most of those folks will go for Obama because of media bias. Throw in Google and Facebook openly backing Obama, and filtering their content the same way, and it a tough road for any Republican candidate.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A sad truth RedTiger.... Cheers, RickO
  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,792 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If all four candidates are still in the race at convention time one of them will not have the required delegates during the first voting round. Then a "brokered" convention will kick in and deals will be made. Will make for an interesting convention and do not be surprised if a fifth name pops up should it go into "round two."

    I would imagine that right before convention time the leading candidate will make a "deal" with the next strongest candidate"(s) to have them bow out and get a promise for a nice position in a republican administration. Ron Paul will not run as an independent and split the vote. I believe he is more interested in having the party represent his views than he is in having the party support him to be president. His primary goal has always been to get the party to recognize and adopt some of his libertarian and constitutionalist views and I believe he has accomplished this to some degree. As the debates progressed I noticed more of "I agree with Dr. Paul on this" from the others. Also, the fact that the younger generation and the active duty military are the base of his support shows that the future is promising.

    Until the party makes up its mind exactly where it stands and comes up with a good candidate to represent those views, the Republicans will never recover the White House. Even with total failure from the current administration, Republican candidates currently pose no real threat. The current failure to fix economic woes once and for all and the lack of a viable response to that failure are what will continue to make PMs the place to be.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,014 ✭✭✭✭✭
    deals will be worked and I don't think an open convention is likely at all.

    I hate to use the "D" word, but I feel it really applies here: desperate. CNN seems desperate for a ratings bump.


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  • RedTigerRedTiger Posts: 5,608
    The Wall Street Journal has a running delegate count:
    link

    Romney 415
    Santorum 176
    Gingrich 105
    Paul 47
    Huntsman 2

    The key take away is that Romney has more than all the rest combined. As long as this holds true, there is close to zero chance of a brokered convention. If the leading candidate has a super majority, the uncommitted super delegates will go along with the wishes of the primary and caucus voters. They won't bolt and turn the convention into a media circus. The press floats this idea every primary season and it hasn't ever happened during the era of TV campaigning (post-1960). Again, if the delegate count were different and the other candidates combined to have more than the front runner, there might be a chance. Even then, it would probably be that the 2nd or 3rd candidate would take the VP slot in exchange for the delegates.


  • << <i>An open convention is extremely unlikely, even though the news folks are rooting for that because it would make their lives interesting. Count the committed delegates. As long as Romney has more than all the other candidates combined, an open convention is extremely unlikely.

    Keep in mind that CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC basically work for the Obama reelection campaign. Obama support is at 95% for paid staffers at these networks and they no longer even try to be balanced. Filter everything through that, and it all makes sense. The bad part is that a good percentage of Americans still get their information primarily from network TV, and most of those folks will go for Obama because of media bias. Throw in Google and Facebook openly backing Obama, and filtering their content the same way, and it a tough road for any Republican candidate.

    Couple the above reality with this undeniable fact: This current administration is utilizing Fascist (forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism) tactics in such an overt over the top mannner that this country has never witnessed before. They are not being called on it by the media because they are in his back pocket also. This Administration is Corrupt from the top down. If we are subjected to 4 more years of this administration, the executive orders circumventing congress alone will most likely ensure that conservatism never raises its head again.
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  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Keep in mind that CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC basically work for the Obama reelection campaign. Obama support is at 95% for paid staffers at these networks and they no longer even try to be balanced. Filter everything through that, and it all makes sense. The bad part is that a good percentage of Americans still get their information primarily from network TV, and most of those folks will go for Obama because of media bias. Throw in Google and Facebook openly backing Obama, and filtering their content the same way, and it a tough road for any Republican candidate.

    Couple the above reality with this undeniable fact: This current administration is utilizing Fascist (forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism) tactics in such an overt over the top mannner that this country has never witnessed before. They are not being called on it by the media because they are in his back pocket also. This Administration is Corrupt from the top down. If we are subjected to 4 more years of this administration, the executive orders circumventing congress alone will most likely ensure that conservatism never raises its head again.


    There you go again!

    If you make a media-control argument, you cannot start from the point that the whole except for FOX news (the one you didn't mention) is in some kind of control from above. It makes no sense and by saying it does doesn't make it so.

    When a network (FOX) espouses one ideology, it does not make the opposite true. CNN beds over backwards to reach the right-wing. They fail. Others try not to incite the right wing and become bland in their commentary because of their fear. MSNBC has claimed the opposite spectrum to FOX, but they let you know it. They know they won't reach anyone on the right.

    As far as your Fascist claims, You are spewing garbage again. This is not the place for political rants.
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  • RedTigerRedTiger Posts: 5,608
    EagleEye obviously didn't hear about the jouralist [sic] scandal or the Media Matters scandal, where the White House covertly issued talking points to hundreds of journalists across the country. Of course he didn't, he gets his news from mainstream media outlets and the mainstream media won't self report on these scandals because it shows how far they have strayed.

    For another instance of state control, there were something like 30 Republican debates. Not one question on Solyndra, or Fast and Furious gun running. Does anyone think that maybe there was a covert White House memo on topics that were off limits? Probably over 500 questions asked, a bunch of really stupid ones, such as that timeless barb "are you a flake?" or "which of the other candidates do you think are flakes" or "are you too extreme to be elected?" or "why did you vote on this one minor bill twenty years ago that tangentially has something to do with abortion or birth control?"

    I do think Numbers is over the top. Ron Paul is more popular than ever, despite the media. Paul is more libertarian than conservative, but it does show that not all the people are buying the baloney being sold by NPR, PBS, CBS, CNN, NBC, ABC, MSNBC et al.


  • Personally, I can not tolerate the worthless dribble verbally expressed on the major news networks. I just want Bill Maher to apologize to Sarah Palin. I wish Facism would expose it's ugly head to all who refuse to see it.

    When government controls what I must buy, when government controls the courts, when government demands excessive taxes and when government blatantly ignores the rule of LAW, I am in deep sh _ _!

    Look up the definition of facism. I have no fear of the present or future because I know the truth. It all comes down to facts and history, there's no "feelings or beliefs", just TRUTH.



  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The White House has a press office - that's what they do. Is that controlling the media? Controlling the narrative maybe, but not controlling the media. Solyndra? isn't news anymore. I hear all the stuff you say that I don't hear, but I look at the facts. The pundits on FOX say the gas price rise is due to the President not letting the drilling go at full force, where the opposite is true. There are more drilling rigs operating in the US now than any time in our history. So, do you believe FOX? Are you their stooge? I don't want to be any news program's stooge, so I question everything.

    As for fascism: Definition of Fascism
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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The pundits on FOX say the gas price rise is due to the President not letting the drilling go at full force, where the opposite is true. There are more drilling rigs operating in the US now than any time in our history.

    The US rig count is nowhere near it's historical high.

    Take your pick of years from the 1973 oil embargo through the mid 1985's, which is when NA production was ramped up to produce an oil glut.:

    Baker Hughes historical rig count in the US, Adobe format.
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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,792 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Smart strategic planning requires us to exhaust the oil supply of others before exhausting our own. The last military with an oil supply will rule the planet. It is militarily important that the US deplete it's own oil resources, whether in the ground or in reserve, as a last resort.

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  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 22,822 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is militarily important that the US deplete it's own oil resources, whether in the ground or in reserve, as a last resort.

    It might be smarter for the government just to say it, instead of pretending it's about something else. Keeping the people ignorant isn't the way to go, imo.
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  • OnlyGoldIsMoneyOnlyGoldIsMoney Posts: 3,358 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I do think Numbers is over the top. Ron Paul is more popular than ever, despite the media. Paul is more libertarian than conservative, but it does show that not all the people are buying the baloney being sold by NPR, PBS, CBS, CNN, NBC, ABC, MSNBC et al. >>



    NPR, PBS, CBS, CNN, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, NYT, LA Times and Washington Post are all part of the media wing of the Democrat party.

    The demeanor of the network "moderators" during the GOP debates is illustrative - the liberal media interrogating Republicans.
  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    On a spectrum of political views, you can place any news organization somewhere along the line. Certainly MSNBC and Al Gore's station "Current" are left-leaning and certainly FOX is right leaning. You have to know that going in. But who is telling you the truth? Facts can be checked. And if you watch FOX waiting for them to tell you anything that is positive of the current administration, you will have to wait for that a long time. When Obama got Osama bin Laden, FOX didn't give Obama any credit (they still don't) even though had it failed, he would have gotten all the blame. Is that being truthful?

    You can watch what reinforces your beliefs, typically people will do that. Just don't put blinders on.
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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,304 ✭✭✭✭✭
    im wondering if theres going to be a low votor turn out. just curiios is all


  • << <i>On a spectrum of political views, you can place any news organization somewhere along the line. Certainly MSNBC and Al Gore's station "Current" are left-leaning and certainly FOX is right leaning. You have to know that going in. But who is telling you the truth? Facts can be checked. And if you watch FOX waiting for them to tell you anything that is positive of the current administration, you will have to wait for that a long time. When Obama got Osama bin Laden, FOX didn't give Obama any credit (they still don't) even though had it failed, he would have gotten all the blame. Is that being truthful?

    You can watch what reinforces your beliefs, typically people will do that. Just don't put blinders on. >>



    So far two certifiable self proclaimed "leftist progressives" have been offerd up to defend the Fascist tactics (forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism) that this administration has covertly and overtly unleashed upon our citizenry and conservative voices anywhere, including Israel. This man attended a place that preached hate toward America continually and yet this man said he never heard it in his 20 years of attendance. WoW!
    Sounds kind of like others who use mud to cover up mud, its still mud.... so please quit slinging it- it stinketh by now!



    << <i>"I had a course in Situational Analysis," says Britt. "You would analyze facts and come to a solution for businesses. I applied the same methodology to determine what political philosophy was most appropriate. After a lot of reading and research, I came down on the progressive side." >>




    << <i>PoliticsWelles was politically active from the beginning of his career. He remained a man of the left throughout his life, and always defined his political orientation as "progressive". >>

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  • << <i>

    I do think Numbers is over the top. Ron Paul is more popular than ever, despite the media. Paul is more libertarian than conservative, but it does show that not all the people are buying the baloney being sold by NPR, PBS, CBS, CNN, NBC, ABC, MSNBC et al. >>



    Please explain what is over the top. Are you also denying that this administration and its lap dog cronies have operated with Fascist tactics ( Forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism) ? If you are then I would suggest looking into his actions a little deeper and you don't have to look far, its broadcast daily. Anyone whom raises a conservative voice in America is now attacked by this administation through Fascist tactics. Their advertizers are attacked, their laws are overturned by federal and leftist judges whom know who butters their bread and also forwards their personal leftist progressive agendas. States are attacked verbally and through the courts, the will of the people overturned continually by directive from the top through the leftists courts. Executive orders are created to specifically bypass congress and the will of the people. The truthful evidence is undeniable. Over the top applies to this administration. By the way I'm not a Ron Paul Fan and never have been. He's a lot to liberal in the National security and world affairs for my likes. He does have some very good economic Ideas that if implemented would help. I don't see a true man of the hour being offerd to us, but this administration needs to go for the sake of all in our country, no matter who the opposing nominee ends up being.
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  • Double posted.
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  • << <i>On a spectrum of political views, you can place any news organization somewhere along the line. Certainly MSNBC and Al Gore's station "Current" are left-leaning and certainly FOX is right leaning. You have to know that going in. But who is telling you the truth? Facts can be checked. And if you watch FOX waiting for them to tell you anything that is positive of the current administration, you will have to wait for that a long time. When Obama got Osama bin Laden, FOX didn't give Obama any credit (they still don't) even though had it failed, he would have gotten all the blame. Is that being truthful?

    You can watch what reinforces your beliefs, typically people will do that. Just don't put blinders on. >>



    A distinguishing trait of Fascist activity is "Forcible Suppressing of Opposition and Criticism".

    Always leaning on fellow leftsit progressives to substantiate your claims seems to violate your last sentence above.

    At least Fox is somewhat balanced, but theyr'e sure not any where close to being conservative minded in whole. They have been attacked by this administration personally; one of the progressives in this administration even told us that "al jazeera tv" was more balanced than some so called balanced media in America. SAY WHAT!

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  • EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,677 ✭✭✭✭✭
    At least Fox is somewhat balanced,

    Yes, as in the Blues Brothers movie: "They play both kinds of music, Country and Western" image

    If balanced means you can always count on their far-right point of view to dictate the coverage, then yes.
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  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,459 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is a PM forum correct?
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    Was glad to see May Silver close over 33.84, if we can hold that friday or better, we may be looking for an objective of $38.00-41.00
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Daily Show, The Colbert Report and South Park offer more in unslanted journalism then Fox, MSNBC and the networks. I can't watch any of them. Fox is as bad as MSNBC imho on the spin factor. I can't stand Bill Maher. Dennis Miller is worse.

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  • It is militarily important that the US deplete it's own oil resources, whether in the ground or in reserve, as a last resort.

    Right now the world is sending us everything from oil, computers and tons of other stuff in exchange for worthless paper promises. Let's milk that one as long as we can.

    Once we have have burned all those bridges then we can look at what resources we have under our feet.
  • DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,271 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • New's outlets - this is why Baskin Robbins has 31 flavors. As to the Republican convention, it could possibly turn into an open convention if the convention were in June or July, but it is not until the end of August - 60 days is not enough time to introduce ANY new candidate and get him elected. It will be settled long before the convention!
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  • << <i>The White House has a press office - that's what they do. Is that controlling the media? Controlling the narrative maybe, but not controlling the media. Solyndra? isn't news anymore. I hear all the stuff you say that I don't hear, but I look at the facts. The pundits on FOX say the gas price rise is due to the President not letting the drilling go at full force, where the opposite is true. There are more drilling rigs operating in the US now than any time in our history. So, do you believe FOX? Are you their stooge? I don't want to be any news program's stooge, so I question everything.

    As for fascism: Definition of Fascism >>

    I read thru the list of 14 Fascist characteristics and I think our govt matches about 10 of them. Not good. The mere fact that Ron Paul is labeled an extremist tells you how much trouble we are in. I will write Ron Paul's name in when I vote. None of the other candidates give a damn about the Constitution. If you wont want to follow the Constitution leave the country! image
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,295 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When Obama got Osama bin Laden, FOX didn't give Obama any credit (they still don't) even though had it failed, he would have gotten all the blame. Is that being truthful?

    Thanks to GWB's military strategies, the decision to take out Bin Laden came to fruition.

    This was a very simple decision IMHO......Master Targeted Terrorist on a platter for the taking!

    Who wouldn't pull the trigger in this situation?

    Why hasn't Obama shut down Gitmo? Just sayin'

    Bush made a lot of mistakes with social spending policies, but his military policies were dead on.
  • LowBudgetLowBudget Posts: 383 ✭✭
    cold hard fact: major news outlets spent more time on how much $$ Palin's wardrobe budget was than ALL of Obama's life prior to 2002....Now we are stuck in the semi-end times thanks to a bunch of strap ons at these networks... but yes, buy PMs!!!! image
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  • fishcookerfishcooker Posts: 3,446 ✭✭
    It is militarily important that the US deplete it's own oil resources, whether in the ground or in reserve, as a last resort.

    The US public and policymakers sure have funny ways of showing that.
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