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heres one for the collectors of counterfeits.

how much would you think this is worth ?

its an old counterfeiters mold made of copper, for "making" 1861 seated quarters.

its an old counterfeiters mold made of copper, for "making" 1861 seated quarters.
regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
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Now if you would just provide an address the Secret Service will be paying you a visit.
Ray
I own several coin dies, including those that were used to strike U.S. mint coinage and a couple of token dies, but I have no interest in the stuff crooks use to make counterfeits.
<< <i>A bit like collecting anonymous bank robbers masks >>
If the coin don't fit, you have to acquit.
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8 Reales coin mould several months ago which went for >$500. That is a VERY COOL item!
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<< <i>A bit like collecting anonymous bank robbers masks >>
If the coin don't fit, you have to acquit. >>
Thats the first time ive genuinely laughed in a long time
<< <i>I could easily see this going for $1,000. I missed this auction(?), but I was outbid on a counterfeit
8 Reales coin mould several months ago which went for >$500. That is a VERY COOL item! >>
Sorry guys you are welcome to these items. It is just not my thing.
And yes Perry Hall's description of how this piece was made is probably accurate.
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<< <i>Very interesting piece. It's hard for me to believe that a metal that is soft enough to impress with a coin can be used for a molten liquid pour.......lead maybe? >>
Lead has a fairly low melting point so it would hurt the brass molds.
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<< <i>Very interesting piece. It's hard for me to believe that a metal that is soft enough to impress with a coin can be used for a molten liquid pour.......lead maybe? >>
Just as mints do with dies, this device could be annealed (heated) to harden it.
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<< <i>Very interesting piece. It's hard for me to believe that a metal that is soft enough to impress with a coin can be used for a molten liquid pour.......lead maybe? >>
Just as mints do with dies, this device could be annealed (heated) to harden it. >>
It's not a die---it's a mold so it wouldn't have to be hardened. In fact, hardening metal will make it brittle which would mean that it may break if it were to be dropped on a hard surface such as a concrete floor.
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
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