I just bought a card on eBay
thunderdan
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And he is charging me $5 to ship a single card. WTF? Do I:
a) Delete this thread immediately to avoid further ridicule for starting yet ANOTHER eBay shipping thread
b) Ding the hell out of his shipping stars and hope he doesn't do extensive analytics, discover my deed, and buy a card from me/ding my stars as payback
c) Offer to leave him 5 stars across the board in exchange for the 1/3 off the purchase price
d) Send him a note telling him it's nice he finally ran an auction as his BIN items are as overpriced as 707's.
e) Send him VCP data compared to all his overpriced cards and ask him if he wants to come down 70%
f) Ask him if he's heard of 707 and if he would like to start a thread in CU to share any new anecdotes
g) Ask him his secret to maintaining 4.9 Shipping DSR despite charging $5 for shipping
h) Ask him to consult with Bobby and share those shipping secrets
i) Find out a little more about Oxford, Maine and ask for a place to stay next time I'm in town
j) Return the card upon receipt, citing a 1/2" scratch on the holder which was not described and my disagreement with PSA's grade
k) Forget about the shipping; turn this thread into a "did I get a good deal" thread
l) Start a different thread about the ethics of $5 shipping when cost+insurance+est packaging was only $4.88
m) other
n) none of the above
a) Delete this thread immediately to avoid further ridicule for starting yet ANOTHER eBay shipping thread
b) Ding the hell out of his shipping stars and hope he doesn't do extensive analytics, discover my deed, and buy a card from me/ding my stars as payback
c) Offer to leave him 5 stars across the board in exchange for the 1/3 off the purchase price
d) Send him a note telling him it's nice he finally ran an auction as his BIN items are as overpriced as 707's.
e) Send him VCP data compared to all his overpriced cards and ask him if he wants to come down 70%
f) Ask him if he's heard of 707 and if he would like to start a thread in CU to share any new anecdotes
g) Ask him his secret to maintaining 4.9 Shipping DSR despite charging $5 for shipping
h) Ask him to consult with Bobby and share those shipping secrets
i) Find out a little more about Oxford, Maine and ask for a place to stay next time I'm in town
j) Return the card upon receipt, citing a 1/2" scratch on the holder which was not described and my disagreement with PSA's grade
k) Forget about the shipping; turn this thread into a "did I get a good deal" thread
l) Start a different thread about the ethics of $5 shipping when cost+insurance+est packaging was only $4.88
m) other
n) none of the above
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<< <i>o) Turn back the clock and set your bid while considering the pre-stated shipping cost.
jsut checked my latest purchase and shiping is NINE bucks for a single graded card
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<< <i>o) Turn back the clock and set your bid while considering the pre-stated shipping cost.
lmao. that would be "n) none of the above." Maybe multiple choice tests aren't your kinda thing. ;-)
did he include insurance / sig confirmation....
if its a $100 card, then $5.00 is bad....
but if its a $500 card, then $5.00 may not be so unreasonable...
the real cost for sending a card prio with sig confirm can be as high as $8.00 or so with shipping and handling...
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if it was $5 and stated in his auction and it is delivered ok...then he deserves 5 stars.
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<< <i>h) Ask him to consult with Bobby and share those shipping secrets >>
I charge $3 or free to ship a single graded card. My shipping stars still get dinged. I guess that is still too much. Maybe I should pay all my buyers who win my cards!! That will solve all problems. I apologize for any future problems my free shipping or my $3 shipping might cause others.
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Perhaps an inquiry to Steve fist would have resolved your issue instead of airing your problem here. It is beyond unfair to paint somebody with a broad brush without first trying to resolve the issue.
<< <i>This seems to be causing you a lot of angst. Perhaps a quiet walk with your family will help cool you down and put your life back into perspective. >>
Or maybe a glass or 3 of red wine...
$5 is BS, good seller or not. He's making money off the shipping, couple dollars per card.
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<< <i>We should start a betting pool where guys can bet the O/U on the number of responses that will be made to threads like this before someone realizes the OP was joking. >>
So what you're saying is he didn't buy a card on eBay???
Specifically, M) needs to be that you put the shipping cost out of your mind, crack the card out, and submit it to PSA along with a few other cards.
A couple weeks later (and this is the important part), start a new thread entirely- bumping all other threads one slot down the page- to make sure that everyone knows that YOUR grades are taking longer to pop than you had hoped.
Warning: Your new thread may spark a firestorm of interest among the members, as it would be an entirely unique angle the likes of which the forum has never seen. Hope you can handle it!
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In all seriousness, I don't sweat the shipping charge. I just consider it in my decision to bid and/or what my ultimate bid will be. I have passed on many of a card because once shipping is added in, $5.00 makes no sense. As long as it is stated up front, it is part of the deal.
With that said, I think in general buyers are now used to "free shipping" offered by just about every online vendor. Now if you are selling umpteem million digits of a widgit, you can afford to ship for free. If you are a spot seller, like myself, you really cannot afford to offer free shipping on most items. I understand that. However, most buyers do not see it that way and are now conditioned from the Internet that everything should ship free. If it does not, it is a rip off.
In the end, I don't mind paying for shipping if it is part of a good and fair deal based on my own assessment. Here is a case in point on an auction I recently won:
Freddy B
With shipping, I got this card $9.49 out the door. As a huge Raider fan, I can't loose on this card. I plan to submit it to PSA and from the looks of it (granted not the best of scan) it may have a shot at an 8. Centering is beautiful and it is an upgrade over the card I have now. If, however, this seller wanted $10.00 for shipping (extreme I know) I would have passed entirely on the card. It illustrates my point.
What really chaps my hide are the jokers who take the $4.00 in shipping and send you your card in a regular envelope between two pieces of thin cardboard. That just screams cheap. That I will complain about; that is flat out wrong and can, obviously, damage a card you really wanted.
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<< <i>Start a different thread about the ethics of $5 shipping when cost+insurance+est packaging was only $4.88 >>
Now this is funny.
On a side note - I've known Steve for 20 yrs. He used to work for Greg Manning Auctions - and I'd sometimes talk to him for an hour about collecting and stuff.
I contacted him when I retired and never called him - that's my bad - he's a good guy.
Should I know him?
Dave
<< <i>I charge $3 and $.30 additional for each card. 5.0 for S&H Charges >>
Then you my friend, are charging too much! Off with your head!!
I hope you know when you start a thread like this on these boards your audience is only about 6 or 7 people. It's kind of like Dave Chappelle doing stand-up at a retirement community.
Lee
BTW, there is a 55 Topps Snider PSA 7 up, where the seller wants almost $12 to ship...now THAT IS outrageous. I would guess that card will sell for about $600+, but still way too much shipping. For some reason the seller appears to choose UPS gound, which, IMO, is overkill.
Joe
The dealer you mention cards r overpriced as you say no doubt but i don't think the figure is 70%. Just pay the man & next time you bid watch the shipping costs.
I know just about everytime i go resell an SGC or PSA card i bought many yrs ago I have to take a loss if i want to sell it i'm talking about pre war cards so that sucks, I just try to learn so it does not happen again but a collector as i'am sees things in a quite different way than a dealer, the dealer is trying to steal everything so they can resell it @ a higher price regardless. Most importantly collect, buy what you love and you won't feel cheated in anyway if you ever sell the card at a loss just the enjoyment of possessing the card will offset any potential loss.
<< <i>This is quickly becoming my all-time favorite thread on the CU boards.. >>
I don't know about that. Perhaps if he had made it all the way to "z" and still got serious responses?
And does your first post in the thread kill the O/U?
<< <i>
<< <i>This is quickly becoming my all-time favorite thread on the CU boards.. >>
I don't know about that. Perhaps if he had made it all the way to "z" and still got serious responses?
And does your first post in the thread kill the O/U? >>
No- For betting purposes I would be an exogenous agent.
<< <i>I must be stupid. WHO IS STEVE NOVELLA?
Should I know him?
Dave >>
Hi Dave
As I posted as a side note - Steve worked for Greg Manning Auctions who also ran auctions under the "Teletrade" name in SCD - this is - obviously - BC - before computers.
He's a good guy and very courteous. Yes - his prices are high - a la Levy Bleam - but he buys really nice stuff.
My recollection - he was with GMA in the early 90s - and around 1993 went into the restaurant business - only to return to cards later on - and - obviously - eventually - went out on his own. I'm not sure if cards are his primary business? I doubt it.
<< <i>Here is the card in question. $177 purchase price. >>
Unless you are blind - which I doubt - it clearly states on Novella's listing that shipping is $5. So, we must presume you knew that B4 bidding . . . and now you are whining about it?
Bottom line is if you don't like the TOS, don't bid. This is a joke post, right??
When you do what you did, it tends to smear the reputation of an outstanding eBay seller, one who I personally hold in high esteem, and yes, have had several transactions with. I consigned the 14th best 1955 Topps set to him this past November, sales well exceeded $40k...transaction was done in an outstanding manner and I got charged a very, VERY reasonable fee.
You would do well to contact sellers in the future who have somehow caused you financial pain (call it whatever), prior to trashing them on these boards. This is not a joke, this man does this for a living, and has done so for more than 20 years, his reputation is ROCK SOLID in the collecting world we live in. You should man up and call him with an apology (207-539-4021) and post same here.
What you did was bush-league at best, and have IMO made yourself look like a complete fool over pennies.
Sounds right to me with the insurance. I shipped a item with a value of $150.00 and insurance was $2.90 plus the shipping cost. So $5 is not unreasonable at all.
and Steve Novella...............
"How much is this item?"
"$177.00 plus $5.00 for shipping."
"OK, sounds fair. I'll take it."
"Great. Please send me a total payment of $182.00 as agreed."
"Wait, that means you're charging me $5.00 for shipping?"
"Yes. We've already fully discussed the terms and that's to what we've both agreed."
"That's ridiculous. I'm going to post in the chat rooms ."
Now, to answer your original question thunderdan, pay the shipping cost as you agreed you would do by bidding on and winnnig the auction listing.
This is not rocket science boys and girls.
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But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
<< <i>This is quickly becoming my all-time favorite thread on the CU boards.. >>
It's an absolute car wreck......I can't stop looking for more angry responses!!!
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*Clemente basic set: 85.0% complete, 7.89 GPA
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<< <i>Here is the non-verbal communication that took place between thunderdan
and Steve Novella...............
"How much is this item?"
"$177.00 plus $5.00 for shipping."
"OK, sounds fair. I'll take it."
"Great. Please send me a total payment of $182.00 as agreed."
"Wait, that means you're charging me $5.00 for shipping?"
"Yes. We've already fully discussed the terms and that's to what we've both agreed."
"That's ridiculous. I'm going to post in the chat rooms ."
Now, to answer your original question thunderdan, pay the shipping cost as you agreed you would do by bidding on and winnnig the auction listing.
This is not rocket science boys and girls. >>
Excellent analysis.
OP is a welcher. And probably a communist.
<< <i>
<< <i>Here is the non-verbal communication that took place between thunderdan
and Steve Novella...............
"How much is this item?"
"$177.00 plus $5.00 for shipping."
"OK, sounds fair. I'll take it."
"Great. Please send me a total payment of $182.00 as agreed."
"Wait, that means you're charging me $5.00 for shipping?"
"Yes. We've already fully discussed the terms and that's to what we've both agreed."
"That's ridiculous. I'm going to post in the chat rooms ."
Now, to answer your original question thunderdan, pay the shipping cost as you agreed you would do by bidding on and winnnig the auction listing.
This is not rocket science boys and girls. >>
Excellent analysis.
OP is a welcher. And probably a communist. >>
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But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
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This Steve Novella fella is doing something right. He had over 1000 positive feedbacks this month.
If your keeping score 707 with their sick inventory hit a little over 260 sales this month.....