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Russett toning---ala seated quarter

I hear a lot of people talk about russett toning, usually in a negative sense...why? Is it just because they don't like the look, or is there some other deeply seated problem? Does russett toning denote exposure to some specific environment that is undesirable?

Here is a russett-toned coin that I own, I love it...sure it's probably been dipped in the past, but to my eyes it's pretty, nicely struck and in a fairly high state of preservation...plus it's a tougher date.

What do you say about Idahoan toning? (OK...bad joke.)

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  • This Capped Bust Half has some peripheral russet toning on both sides. Russet isn't the most vibrant color in the spectrum, but I like it on this piece. The photography is courtesy of BluCC Photos.

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    "Clamorous for Coin"
  • CaptainRonCaptainRon Posts: 1,189 ✭✭
    Nice slider
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  • lasvegasteddylasvegasteddy Posts: 10,420 ✭✭✭
    myself...
    just not into the russet toning appreciation...no need to explain
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • erickso1erickso1 Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭
    I've got it in several and I have no problem w/ it.

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  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I really like attractive russet toning on coins of a certain age...it can be quite beautiful, and somehow feels appropriate on classic coins.
    Think beautiful older woman graying gracefully vs. those freaky stretched out face lifted, over dipped senior citizens that seem to be proliferating
    in my neck of the woods lately.... image
  • relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 8,103 ✭✭✭✭✭

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    Need a Barber Half with ANACS photo certificate. If you have one for sale please PM me. Current Ebay auctions
  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    LCoopie = Les
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I always call that 'outhouse tarnish'.....sorry, just do not like it... image Cheers, RickO
  • rawmorganrawmorgan Posts: 618 ✭✭✭
    I think it adds a nice depth to the reverse of this Grant Commemorative

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  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    Some nice looking russetts! I really like the bust half and the Bay-Bridge!
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Billet's 1864 quarter has very attracive toning that is nice enough to command a premium for eye appeal. I suppose the "russet" toning others refer to could have a negative connotation, but I do not think they were referring to Billet's coin.
  • bosco5041bosco5041 Posts: 1,303
    I don't have a problem with russett toning and I think it looks good on your quarter, but thats just me.
  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,942 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Would this be considered russet tone?
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  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Would this be considered russet tone?
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    I'm thinking that looks more like orange toning...which I believe is more desirable across the board.
  • erickso1erickso1 Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭
    It seems to me that you see a lot of the Russet toning in Commems that have sat in their original issue packaging for a while. While some can look, well, rough, when it is right I really like it.

    Here's an Oregon I picked up from Commemdude. Not all will like it, but I think it has a unique character to it.

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  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You guys are really good! My coins don't look anywhere near that good after I bake them in russet potatoes.

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So is russet toning a color or type of toning......such as mottled toning??
  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    I always thought it meant brown toning...but people use the word "russett" to make it sound more appealing. In the art world people do this all the time, they use things like "plein air" "ateleir" and "chiroscuro" because the common english forms "on location" "workshop" and "light and dark" aren't nearly as romantic sounding.

  • These coins blew me away. I've always refered to them as Rusty toned, but I guess that would carry a negative connotation?
  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,643 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I always thought it meant brown toning...but people use the word "russett" to make it sound more appealing. In the art world people do this all the time, they use things like "plein air" "ateleir" and "chiroscuro" because the common english forms "on location" "workshop" and "light and dark" aren't nearly as romantic sounding. >>



    We had a VP that used the word "executionalization." I'm still not quite sure what it meant.
  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I always thought it meant brown toning...but people use the word "russett" to make it sound more appealing. In the art world people do this all the time, they use things like "plein air" "ateleir" and "chiroscuro" because the common english forms "on location" "workshop" and "light and dark" aren't nearly as romantic sounding. >>



    We had a VP that used the word "executionalization." I'm still not quite sure what it meant. >>



    Let me see if I understand you Len...he took a noun <execution> added the suffix "-al" turning it into an adjective...then added another suffix "-ize" turning it into a verb, and FINALLY finished by adding "-tion" which really just means "the act of"...which is technically a noun (I think.)

    Sounds like the root word "Execution" would have worked just fine! image

    Unless it's a word like infamous...in which case it becomes MORE than just famous...it's IN-FAMOUS!!! (Name that movie!) image


  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So is russet toning a color or type of toning......such as mottled toning?? >>



    Russet is a color, just like "blue" is a color.
  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>So is russet toning a color or type of toning......such as mottled toning?? >>



    Russet is a color, just like "blue" is a color. >>




    ...or heliotrope, that's always a funny word!
  • erickso1erickso1 Posts: 1,705 ✭✭✭
    Just like any other color toning there is good russet toning and bad russet toning. IMO, the best russet tonings are hard to capture w/ a camera. They exhibit a depth, sparkle and richness to it's color. Hard to explain but is really nice when you see it.


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  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭
    Any coin that's not round is cool in my book! (Unless it's pmd.)
  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,643 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>We had a VP that used the word "executionalization." I'm still not quite sure what it meant.

    Let me see if I understand you Len...he took a noun <execution> added the suffix "-al" turning it into an adjective...then added another suffix "-ize" turning it into a verb, and FINALLY finished by adding "-tion" which really just means "the act of"...which is technically a noun (I think.)

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    "Execution" sounds like a one-time event to me. "Executionalization," I think, more refers to an ongoing, or latent process of putting plans into action. To make this coin related, I shall use in a sentence: "The aimless collector was good at creating new collecting objectives, but suffered from poor executionalization."

    Which is in clear contrast to the OP, who has been posting quite a string of eye-appealing seated quarters the last few months image
  • Billet7Billet7 Posts: 4,923 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>We had a VP that used the word "executionalization." I'm still not quite sure what it meant.

    Let me see if I understand you Len...he took a noun <execution> added the suffix "-al" turning it into an adjective...then added another suffix "-ize" turning it into a verb, and FINALLY finished by adding "-tion" which really just means "the act of"...which is technically a noun (I think.)

    >>



    "Execution" sounds like a one-time event to me. "Executionalization," I think, more refers to an ongoing, or latent process of putting plans into action. To make this coin related, I shall use in a sentence: "The aimless collector was good at creating new collecting objectives, but suffered from poor executionalization."

    Which is in clear contrast to the OP, who has been posting quite a string of eye-appealing seated quarters the last few months image >>




    Thanks Len, and good use of the word executionalism (can I call it a word?) image My plan is to one day have a set that approaches the quality of yours (perhaps decades from now!)

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