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Sold a problem Chain cent to fund this one.....

AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
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This was my first Chain. AG3 details, re-engraved details on obverse. It was tough to say goodbye, but it had to be done.

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And with the proceeds.... said hello to this one image
This is the tougher S1 or Ameri variety. Most in lower grades are very rough. This coin in hand is a dark chocolote brown and the planchet is quite decent. The only areas where there is minor porosity is in front of the portrait, and around the A in Ameri. Sadly the date is gone which is unfortunately common with lower grade examples of these. The reverse details are VERY strong. The only other defect are some rim bumps which go with the grade. Im not 100% sure but I think there may be a cud over the "TATE" in States. Will have to ask some EAC experts about that as I know its a rarity.

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Thanks for looking!
Ankur

All coins kept in bank vaults.
PCGS Registries
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SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!

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  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I pretty much dig any chain cent. Just too much history to not dig it. image
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PS-I likely don't have to tell you this but be careful talking to EAC experts.............they generally will nit pick your favorite piece of copper to death! Alas, they serve a purpose I suppose. image

  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice upgrade, Ankur. All chain cents are lovable but your new one is great jump.

    It doesn't look dark chocolate. Fix the images. And get it reslabbed if you can't polish out the distraction on the reverse!
    Lance.
    Coin Photography Services / Everyman Registry set / BHNC #213
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    Image came out a bit overexposed. Here are cell phone pics of how it looks in hand.


    imageimage
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • IrishMikeyIrishMikey Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭
    Is there a reasonably accurate estimate out there of the TOTAL number of genuine Chain cents in existence?
    My guess is that the number would be higher than many collectors would think, but still tiny.

    Definitely like your upgrade, Ankur. Give any thought to having the coin slabbed with the chain side up?
  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,652 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Like we discussed earlier - good choice, Ankur image
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  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Is there a reasonably accurate estimate out there of the TOTAL number of genuine Chain cents in existence?
    My guess is that the number would be higher than many collectors would think, but still tiny.

    Definitely like your upgrade, Ankur. Give any thought to having the coin slabbed with the chain side up? >>



    I would guess there are over a thousand problem chain cents out there.
    Reslabbing with the chain up? Probably not.
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,153 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That is really nice, thanks for sharing!
  • mrpaseomrpaseo Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭
    Nice image Someday I will be the curator for one.
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,723 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I would guess there are over a thousand problem chain cents out there. >>



    I'd say that there are almost three thousand of them if you include to the total dogs that are out there. I've seen a few with just a couple of chain links on the the reverse, and many others with very bad surfaces. Finding a smooth brown one is the trick.

    I would not be sorry to the coin you replaced go, Ankur. That one was truly a "Billy Sunday" coin that would be a Condition 1 (BS-1) in most any EAC's opinion.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>PS-I likely don't have to tell you this but be careful talking to EAC experts.............they generally will nit pick your favorite piece of copper to death! Alas, they serve a purpose I suppose. image >>



    Amen, brother, I hear ya on that and agree!

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've been in EAC for quite awhile and I don't look poorly on any chain cent...I wish I had bought a few with only a few links on them many years ago when a dealer offered me some for $300/ea. Your new one is yummy.
    ANA-LM, NBS, EAC
  • abitofthisabitofthatabitofthisabitofthat Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭
    Nice upgrade, Ankur. Was that Tom Hyland's coin?

    merse

  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Nice upgrade, Ankur. Was that Tom Hyland's coin? >>



    Nope, but he wants to buy this one image
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great color and details. Good move with the upgrade AnkurJ.
  • ajmanajman Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭
    Very nice coin Ankur, I know it's hard to let go of some things in one's collection but on the bright side you were able to score on a nice problem free example of a great coin. Congrats. I am also letting go some things in my collection in order to fund an expensive purchase for me, and what keeps me going is knowing that eventually it'll be mine. image
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  • RaufusRaufus Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beautiful!! Congrats and thanks for sharing. I'd love to own one someday.
    Land of the Free because of the Brave!
  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Im not 100% sure but I think there may be a cud over the "TATE" in States. Will have to ask some EAC experts about that as I know its a rarity.

    image >>



    I am not an expert, however....

    The LDS of the S.1 variety (AMERI.) has a rim break (cud) over TAT, not ATE.

    I'm fairly certain what you are seeing are simply rim bumps rather than a cud. If it were the cud, it would be shifted counterclockwise. There is a very good picture of it in Noyes, and it does not resemble your coin. I tried to find an example on HA that I could show you, but gave up after looking at two dozen examples.

    Congrats on your NEWP....Mike
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin, Ankur, and I like the look in hand very much. A keeper
  • oneor11oneor11 Posts: 208
    Very nice coin Ankur. I'm bummed because I was waiting for my March 6th bonus to buy that very coin. I've been watching it since early February but saw it dropped off the Collector's Corner sell list recently. I'm glad it's in good hands though. Very nice purchase! image

    Jacob
  • Bah1513Bah1513 Posts: 558
    Great coin! Thanks for Sharing you should have kept both coins! image
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  • SmittysSmittys Posts: 9,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like the first coin imageimage
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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,723 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Great coin! Thanks for Sharing you should have kept both coins! image >>



    I know where Ankur is coming from when it comes to keeping both coins. The financial aspects of doing that can really limit your other projects. When I upgraded my Gobrecht dollar from PR-60 to 62, my first piece was a die alignment IV example which most numismatists view as a restrike. The PR-62 was an original alignment I piece, which really appealed to me. It would have been nice to have kept the alignment IV piece to show as a comparison between the two, but I really needed the money I got from selling it for other far different pieces.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
  • cheezhedcheezhed Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Strong, strong reverse, great coin.
    Many happy BST transactions
  • joecopperjoecopper Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭
    Nice pick-up Ankur but think that what you are seeing on reverse is rim bumps.
  • FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭
    I once found a half of a Chain Cent in a field while looking for Indian Arrowheads. It was very corroded and the Chain was the only thing that was just barely visable.

    I actually sold the thing about 30 years ago. Now I wish I had kept it.

    Maybe one day I'll get a nice Fair or About Good specimen. How much are those going for these days?

  • raysrays Posts: 2,424 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like this S-1. They have been going for a lot lately, as much as $2K/point.

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