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pcgs69pcgs69 Posts: 4,352 ✭✭✭✭
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I have a friend who wants to get a water-salvaged coin conserved. He's a bit hesitant to use NCS. Are there any people/companies that you could recommend that would do a good job?

Thanks for any input!

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,070 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not certain who might be best for the job, but I hope your friend is aware that any corrosion damage will still be there underneath.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,815 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have a friend who wants to get a water-salvaged coin conserved. He's a bit hesitant to use NCS. Are there any people/companies that you could recommend that would do a good job?

    Thanks for any input! >>



    Fresh water or salt water? Got any pics? If there is corrosion, it can possibily be helped but it's unlikely to ever be conserve to a state that will be graded by any TPG.

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  • CarlWohlforthCarlWohlforth Posts: 11,074 ✭
    I have tried NCS and was very happy with them. Naturally there are coins that can't be helped, for sure salt water corrosion can not be reversed.
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  • oneor11oneor11 Posts: 208


    << <i>I have a friend who wants to get a water-salvaged coin conserved. He's a bit hesitant to use NCS. Are there any people/companies that you could recommend that would do a good job?

    Thanks for any input! >>



    I don't have any alternate suggestions. But why wouldn't you want to use NCS? It seems they have demonstrated expertise in conserving rare and expensive coins that have been underwater in harsh conditions. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a conservation service that has a more proven track record.

    Jacob
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,815 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I have a friend who wants to get a water-salvaged coin conserved. He's a bit hesitant to use NCS. Are there any people/companies that you could recommend that would do a good job?

    Thanks for any input! >>



    I don't have any alternate suggestions. But why wouldn't you want to use NCS? It seems they have demonstrated expertise in conserving rare and expensive coins that have been underwater in harsh conditions. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find a conservation service that has a more proven track record.

    Jacob >>



    Depending on what the coin is and its condition it may not be worth the time and expense to send it to NCS. We need more information before we can give any meaningful advice.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • golfer72golfer72 Posts: 3,588


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    << <i>I have a friend who wants to get a water-salvaged coin conserved. He's a bit hesitant to use NCS. Are there any people/companies that you could recommend that would do a good job?

    Thanks for any input! >>



    Fresh water or salt water? Got any pics? If there is corrosion, it can possibily be helped but it's unlikely to ever be conserve to a state that will be graded by any TPG. >>

    Didnt PCGS grade the gold coins from the shipwreck? image
  • pcgs69pcgs69 Posts: 4,352 ✭✭✭✭
    Image added in original post.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From the picture, I am not at all sure it can be helped much, but if it can, I would send it to NCS and ask for a consult prior to any effort expended. Cheers, RickO
  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
    I'm not convinced that the coin posted by the OP is a genuine Pine Tree Shilling.

    It looks to me like a copy that has been aged (a whole lot).
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,815 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That coin looks beyond help. Once that corrosion is removed you may have nothing left. Also, it's too far gone to be authenticated by any competent expert.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
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  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Also, it's too far gone to be authenticated by any competent expert. >>



    If the OP can show a pic of the edge so that we can see the thickness of this piece, I believe that would be very informative.
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  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm not convinced that the coin posted by the OP is a genuine Pine Tree Shilling.

    It looks to me like a copy that has been aged (a whole lot). >>




    This may well be a replica. There are commonly seen replicas of the Noe-1 Pine Tree Shilling (that is the variety that your friend's coin is) that -- in that horrible, corroded state -- would be somewhat difficult to tell from real by looking at it.

    However, those copies are made out of base metal and not silver, so a specific gravity test might be illuminating.

    I would also recommend NCS, but understand that you may be paying $50-100 to conserve a coin that is actually a $5 replica.

    And even a genuine coin that looks like that would be mighty ugly post-conservation.
    John Agre

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  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 8,940 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'm not convinced that the coin posted by the OP is a genuine Pine Tree Shilling.

    It looks to me like a copy that has been aged (a whole lot). >>



    My knowledge of Shillings isn't that comprehensive but that was my first thought.
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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,815 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>I have a friend who wants to get a water-salvaged coin conserved. He's a bit hesitant to use NCS. Are there any people/companies that you could recommend that would do a good job?

    Thanks for any input! >>



    Fresh water or salt water? Got any pics? If there is corrosion, it can possibily be helped but it's unlikely to ever be conserve to a state that will be graded by any TPG. >>

    Didnt PCGS grade the gold coins from the shipwreck? image >>



    Yes---from several ship wrecks but gold is far less reactive than silver and this coin appears io be heavily corroded.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • pcgs69pcgs69 Posts: 4,352 ✭✭✭✭
    I added an image of the edge. Not sure this'll help you guys much though...
  • ColonialCoinUnionColonialCoinUnion Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭
    That coin is, IMO, too thick to be real. Genuine pieces are very thin to begin with, and the few sea salvaged examples I have seen are thinner still.

    I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
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