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1872 H Canadian half authenticity

I had a question from a customer about the authenticity of this coin because of the tilt in the N in regina, to be quite honest I never really noticed it before. Is there an expert out there that knows if this is a known variety? sorry about the photos

thanks for any input
Ken

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,194 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No clue here. It doesn't raise any obvious red flags to my eye, but I'm no Greyside specialist.

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  • jfoot13jfoot13 Posts: 2,669 ✭✭✭
    Looks good to me too but it was bought to my attention and the last thing I want is chinese ackey in my case LOL
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  • DBMDBM Posts: 27 ✭✭
    Looks like the N was repunched,doesn't have the markers of a typical Cinese fake.
  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,675 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Genuine-I don't know much about varieties-but that coin is good. Even the color is correct.

    Bob
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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Genuine repunched N.

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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,174 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You're fine...it's OK.
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

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  • theboz11theboz11 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭
    The "C" in CENTS is a different size also.image
  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Gentlemen,

    I am buffled and at a loss here.
    You have endorsed this coin as authentic without hesitation or objections , even though we all know that there are forgeries of most of the 50 cents from 1870 to 1911 and again 1921.
    I am not saying here that Ken's coin is not authentic!!!
    However, I question your ability to authenticate it based on the information given.
    all we have are a few not so detailed images, a Rep N and an angled 7.
    NOTHING else.
    And you say it is authentic.

    Please gentlemen, please post your reasons that lead to your statement that this coin is authentic and not a fake..

    Here are 2 1872 50 cent coins.

    please identify the fake and the authentic coin if you can.
    or, are they both fakes or both authentic?
    thanks

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  • jfoot13jfoot13 Posts: 2,669 ✭✭✭
    it might just be the photo and I know very little of these but again from the photos I would be suspect of both from the denticles. I would check the weights also... LOL but if I were that knowledgeable I wouldn't be asking about mine image

    Ken
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  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ken, I know what mine are. I have more, and I do know about all of them.
    I am just surprised that others have authenticated your coin without knowing any details.
    The best advise I could give you... send it to ICCS or CCCS to be certified.
    H
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  • I will give it a shot. The first coin is an obverse h2 with a repunched a in regina. It has a long base 2 wide date. There appears to have metal flow on the outer perimeter of the coin. The second coin is a narrow date with a short base 2. However------the initials LCW at the base of the Queens neck were only there for the 1870 mintage and were removed in 1871. Hence--both fakes. Did I win! Did I win?
    Olmanjon
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  • Going back to the original coin I see the initials at the neck line.
    Olmanjon
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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,073 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1872-H coins can have L.C.W.

    ICCS 1872-H 50c

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  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
    please note:
    I jave not said the coin is a fake.
    My question is actually very simple:
    evryone said is is ok
    What are these statemenst based on... that is what bugged me...
    BTW, both of my above coins are authentic and certified.
    H
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  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
    am not so sure about being the king about repunched Canadians.
    I have a 1881 1 cent with all legends doubled..
    also have a NFL cent with the date repunched and some of the letters re-punched, not just doubled.
    there are others...
    BTW, the RCMP web site about forgeries is about as outdated as last years news..
    But one thing is for sure: most Canadian coins from 1858 to 1900 , any denomination, are very underrated and hence priced much too low....
    just wait when they "wake up"... "they are rubbing their eyes" already..
    H
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  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is the 1872 AV variety, very scarce and hard to get.
    sometimes they show up at auctions and the auctioneer has no idea until bidding is fierce.
    the V in Victoria is actuallu a upside down A. look close and you will see the Bar across.
    just thought it might be interesting
    H
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  • Well--I guess I just made a bad assumption. I read that the initials were removed in 1871 and just assumed that they were not replaced later. Do all of the Victoria halves have the initials except some of the 1870's and all of the 1871's? This is what makes this a great forumn. I learn something new every day. Thanks guys.
    Olmanjon
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  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Have the same coin in a better grade...
    it is interesting...and the experts are much devided how it happened.
    H
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  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
    there was one not toooo long ago.
    It was all scratched up where it counts... thye crown part also was not definitive..
    upon my request for a better image, the response was:
    sorry, i am unable to do better pictures because i have a very basic camera.......just trust me....., look at my feed back....

    yea... and my mum is the current queen of china...
    auction closed around 380 if i remember right....
    someone now is the "proud" owner of a chinese fake....
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  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
    until it is certified.. the jury is out on the "no Fakee".
    do you have perhaps better images?
    maybe send really excellent shots to MM.
    H
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  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
    great,
    which one do you think is better suitable?
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  • YQQYQQ Posts: 3,264 ✭✭✭✭✭
    what bothered me originally a bit was the orang reddish tint..., sometimes an indicator of the orient.
    I had on in really rough shape and traded it for a 1872 10 cent and a few NFL $2 gold pieces.
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