<< <i>So you are saying at a certain income level, you don't mind ripping someone off? Sorry, but that is sad to me. To me it shows conditional integrity. Integrity should not be conditional on a dollar amount, but to you I guess it is. BTW, you do realize, those billion dollar companies are also owned by the little people as well? Stocks in these companies give even the little guy an opportunity to own a small part in the company. Not to mention, some of these companies may give stock options to their employees. Sorry but i'm on the side of the people in this thread that say the right thing is the right thing, no matter who you are dealing with.
I tend to be more trusting of people who do the right thing all the time than some of the time. >>
Like I said, maybe that makes me a bad person, for ripping off Best Buy for $50. I guess I'm not to be trusted.
I would be MUCH more concerned about costing someone their job in this tough economy vs. a few bucks a large chain store will never miss that resulted from an honest mistake. >>
Again, I'll ask the question. If you were shorted $20 or double-charged for an item, would you feel the same way and forget about it?
Just go and pay for them, don't use a receipt, just say it was a mistake and you don't know what register, or who was working. If they force you tell, well I guess that's a different story, but I don't think that will happen.
well, I called the store and explained to the manager what happened. His exact words were that he was glad I was honest but they didn't have any way to prove that the packs went out the store like they did. I told him I would stop in and make restitution and he basically made me feel like I was kind of stupid to do that.....my wife agreed with the manager but I'm still going back and pay for the packs. and to answer someone's question in this thread the packs were in one of the boxes with the "not to be sold as a box but individually" labels....the box was even opened which made me more confused on how the cashier didn't do it correctly in the first place. I'll probably kick myself when I go to work tomorrow night and start picking up the opened items at my store that will be declared "pilfered" but at least I'm doing what I feel is the right thing.
Good for you. It's a difficult decision, but you are definitely making the right one. Don't worry about what others think. You will have a bigger impact on them by your actions than they will have on you by their opinions.
<< <i>well, I called the store and explained to the manager what happened. His exact words were that he was glad I was honest but they didn't have any way to prove that the packs went out the store like they did. I told him I would stop in and make restitution and he basically made me feel like I was kind of stupid to do that.....my wife agreed with the manager but I'm still going back and pay for the packs. and to answer someone's question in this thread the packs were in one of the boxes with the "not to be sold as a box but individually" labels....the box was even opened which made me more confused on how the cashier didn't do it correctly in the first place. I'll probably kick myself when I go to work tomorrow night and start picking up the opened items at my store that will be declared "pilfered" but at least I'm doing what I feel is the right thing. >>
+100 for your actions.
But it sounds like the manager is not cut out for his job with that reaction to a customer.
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went back, paid for the rest of the packs and have moved on. I also thought the managers comments were kind of weird but that's his business I guess. in a way he seemed to encourage not going back and paying....oh well it's over now and can't wait for tonights high school game that my kid is playing...they are playing for the conference title so maybe this good karma will rub off on him.
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
<< <i>WTF! I agree! However, I would go back to a large corporate store if the cashier gave me too much change, as many of the cashiers have to pay the shortfall out of their own pocket. >>
FWIW, that's illegal (making cashiers pay for shortfalls, that is).
I haven't read everyone's opinion on this, but of course you go back and tell them. They will feel grateful, you will feel better, and they may say keep them anyway. How would you feel if you were the seller and it happened on this board?
When doing the right thing, it does not matter if the company is large or small. Doing what is right is a matter of integrity, not revenue or profit margin levels.
<< <i>When doing the right thing, it does not matter if the company is large or small. Doing what is right is a matter of integrity, not revenue or profit margin levels. >>
After holding an eBayer's package hostage and threatening to destroy it if your extortion demands were not met, what would you know about integrity?
<< <i>When doing the right thing, it does not matter if the company is large or small. Doing what is right is a matter of integrity, not revenue or profit margin levels. >>
After holding an eBayer's package hostage and threatening to destroy it if your extortion demands were not met, what would you know about integrity? >>
I did the right thing there too pal. Instead of creating a thread asking whether or not I should just keep a card that was accidentally mailed to me, I sent the seller a message explaining he sent me someone else's card, then requested he paypal me $3 so I could forward it to its final owner. HE decided it wasnt worth the effort, not me. I will absolutely, 110% inform someone of their mistake....but I will no way in holy hell PAY for someone else's mistakes.
Long story short, a very prominent coin shop in Chicago offered me 3 coins for bullion value of $400 each. I knew coins were worth $1200 each. Wanna guess what I did bigmouth?
Long story short, a very prominent coin shop in Chicago offered me 3 coins for bullion value of $400 each. I knew coins were worth $1200 each. Wanna guess what I did bigmouth?
My integrity is unblemished. >>
Spin it however you want... You are an azz. Plain and simple!!!
Long story short, a very prominent coin shop in Chicago offered me 3 coins for bullion value of $400 each. I knew coins were worth $1200 each. Wanna guess what I did bigmouth?
My integrity is unblemished. >>
Spin it however you want... You are an azz. Plain and simple!!! >>
I laugh everytime I read these kind of post. Here in Georgia several times a month some bully attempts to slap around someone and they pull out there legal concealed weapon and shot him. No charges filed and another bully bites the dirt. Please be careful if you visit a National card show in Atlanta, most people are armed and they will shoot you if you decide to slap them around.
And I guess "shoot" happens if you're in the south...
Despite derailing the thread, I'm happy to see that there are some that will still do the right thing. It keeps alive my faith that there are still some caring people in the world.
<< <i>quote:WinPitcher lol I can't believe that this is even a topic for discussion.
WTF? How do some of you get through the day?
Really? >>
I guess not everyone is the beacon of morality that you are, Steve.
<< <i>quote:vintagechris Doesn't matter if it is a big store or small store. You should always have your integrity and not have it bought, especially for such a small price. Speaks volumes that some actually say stick it to the big corporate store and say it with pride, conviction and without hesitation, when it should be the complete opposite. Do the right thing with pride, conviction and without hesitation. >>
You're right it's not about big or small. It's about mutual integrity and respect. If a large business sees its customers as resources to be squeezed rather than as people, there's no reason those people shouldn't treat the large business as the faceless, impersonal exploiter that it is. Just because capitalism is in certain ways the best system possible doesn't make it good and isn't necessarily something to be proud of. It is ruthless and commodifies and objectifies and puts a price on absolutely everything - even those things that a major beacon of capitalism, MasterCard, wants you and me to believe are priceless. You should read this article about Target. It's quite eye-opening.
<< <i>quote:TonyC If someone spots you taking them out of your coat and putting them back, they may think you are doing the opposite and you may end up with shoplifting charges. >>
This made me laugh and it reminded me of a funny quote from The Shield.
Dutch: How does someone steal from a soup kitchen? Billings: That was his argument, too.
<< <i>quote:footlong years ago i got a check cashed at the the bank and they gave me $20 too much, new bills stuck together. i noticed this after i left. i thought i should go back then i remembered once before an old lady came back and complained of a shortage and was told once you leave the counter there's nothing they can do. i figured no sense in going back. >>
I couldn't agree more. Rules, integrity, honesty, and most of all, TRUST, have to work both ways. I treat others as they treat me. Like Richie Aprile was once told by Tony Soprano, those who want respect give respect.
It would be nice if all questions of morality were simple and had black and white answers. Unfortunately, there are often complications that result in unique circumstances requiring unique solutions with unique justifications. Sometimes, these justifications end up sounding like excuses to some people.
How do so many threads get co-opted into implied shootings and IHOPs? It certainly wasn't like this when I started collecting. Back in my day, we'd wrap them in rubber bands and carry them around in our pockets. Sometimes we'd "flip" them against the wall in the hallway at the Boys Club when Darrell and Kooz weren't looking.
But, things being what they are nowadays, if you look at me funny I'm a gonna shoot you with my legal gun, shooty shoot shoot. I gots your freedom on the end of a hollow point, melonfarmer!!! Am I tougher, taller and smarter now, cause I sure feel like I is....
I can certainly understand people see things differently depending on their personal beliefs and life experiences. And this is true. This past year one of my good friends was in a waffle house for breakfast and the place was robbed at gunpoint.
<< <i>I can certainly understand people see things differently depending on their personal beliefs and life experiences. And this is true. This past year one of my good friends was in a waffle house for breakfast and the place was robbed at gunpoint. >>
So, how do you feel about waffle houses now, Steve? I think you should just go to Dennys. You can buy both pancakes and waffles there along with a Grand Slam Breakfast. But I do remember when they used to give those fancy hologram cards away with breakfast....ohhhh those were the days!
Bah... just give the extra packs to a kid for Christmas. Or drop them in the offering plate at church..... Better yet, call up the store and tell them what happened. If they want the merchandise back, tell them to send a courier. You traveled out there, right?
if it was walmart, i'd say screw em. if it was the local store, i'd go back.
If i got $20 extra at the bank; i'd keep it.. (makes up for the excessive fees, ATM fees, surcharges etc and all sorts of stuff that used to be free) They got greedy i think its payback.
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<< <i>So you are saying at a certain income level, you don't mind ripping someone off? Sorry, but that is sad to me. To me it shows conditional integrity. Integrity should not be conditional on a dollar amount, but to you I guess it is. BTW, you do realize, those billion dollar companies are also owned by the little people as well? Stocks in these companies give even the little guy an opportunity to own a small part in the company. Not to mention, some of these companies may give stock options to their employees. Sorry but i'm on the side of the people in this thread that say the right thing is the right thing, no matter who you are dealing with.
I tend to be more trusting of people who do the right thing all the time than some of the time. >>
Like I said, maybe that makes me a bad person, for ripping off Best Buy for $50. I guess I'm not to be trusted.
<< <i>
<< <i>if you go back...
someones neck will be on the line....
I would have a harder time with that one... >>
I would be MUCH more concerned about costing someone their job in this tough economy vs. a few bucks a large chain store will never miss that resulted from an honest mistake. >>
Again, I'll ask the question. If you were shorted $20 or double-charged for an item, would you feel the same way and forget about it?
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<< <i>no one ever regretted doing the right thing. >>
Not so sure about that
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Just go and pay for them, don't use a receipt, just say it was a mistake and you don't know what register, or who was working. If they force you tell, well I guess that's a different story, but I don't think that will happen.
Do the right thing.
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<< <i>well, I called the store and explained to the manager what happened. His exact words were that he was glad I was honest but they didn't have any way to prove that the packs went out the store like they did. I told him I would stop in and make restitution and he basically made me feel like I was kind of stupid to do that.....my wife agreed with the manager but I'm still going back and pay for the packs. and to answer someone's question in this thread the packs were in one of the boxes with the "not to be sold as a box but individually" labels....the box was even opened which made me more confused on how the cashier didn't do it correctly in the first place. I'll probably kick myself when I go to work tomorrow night and start picking up the opened items at my store that will be declared "pilfered" but at least I'm doing what I feel is the right thing. >>
+100 for your actions.
But it sounds like the manager is not cut out for his job with that reaction to a customer.
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Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
<< <i>WTF! I agree! However, I would go back to a large corporate store if the cashier gave me too much change, as many of the cashiers have to pay the shortfall out of their own pocket. >>
FWIW, that's illegal (making cashiers pay for shortfalls, that is).
Tabe
I would have suggested going back to this big box store and demanding that a manager price match the deal your wife got on some more packs.
The amount of money any person or company makes has no bearing on whether one should be honest in their interaction with them.
Gregg
<< <i>When doing the right thing, it does not matter if the company is large or small. Doing what is right is a matter of integrity, not revenue or profit margin levels. >>
After holding an eBayer's package hostage and threatening to destroy it if your extortion demands were not met, what would you know about integrity?
<< <i>
<< <i>When doing the right thing, it does not matter if the company is large or small. Doing what is right is a matter of integrity, not revenue or profit margin levels. >>
After holding an eBayer's package hostage and threatening to destroy it if your extortion demands were not met, what would you know about integrity? >>
I did the right thing there too pal. Instead of creating a thread asking whether or not I should just keep a card that was accidentally mailed to me, I sent the seller a message explaining he sent me someone else's card, then requested he paypal me $3 so I could forward it to its final owner. HE decided it wasnt worth the effort, not me. I will absolutely, 110% inform someone of their mistake....but I will no way in holy hell PAY for someone else's mistakes.
Because YOU brought the issue up
Long story short, a very prominent coin shop in Chicago offered me 3 coins for bullion value of $400 each. I knew coins were worth $1200 each. Wanna guess what I did bigmouth?
My integrity is unblemished.
<< <i>And a little bit about integrity buddy:
Because YOU brought the issue up
Long story short, a very prominent coin shop in Chicago offered me 3 coins for bullion value of $400 each. I knew coins were worth $1200 each. Wanna guess what I did bigmouth?
My integrity is unblemished. >>
Spin it however you want... You are an azz. Plain and simple!!!
<< <i>
<< <i>
<< <i>And a little bit about integrity buddy:
Because YOU brought the issue up
Long story short, a very prominent coin shop in Chicago offered me 3 coins for bullion value of $400 each. I knew coins were worth $1200 each. Wanna guess what I did bigmouth?
My integrity is unblemished. >>
Spin it however you want... You are an azz. Plain and simple!!! >>
I laugh everytime I read these kind of post. Here in Georgia several times a month some bully attempts to slap around someone and they pull out there legal concealed weapon and shot him. No charges filed and another bully bites the dirt. Please be careful if you visit a National card show in Atlanta, most people are armed and they will shoot you if you decide to slap them around.
Paul >>
If only you knew the WHOLE story...
<< <i>Hey, Schmidt happens.
And I guess "shoot" happens if you're in the south...
Despite derailing the thread, I'm happy to see that there are some that will still do the right thing. It keeps alive my faith that there are still some caring people in the world.
<< <i>quote:WinPitcher
lol I can't believe that this is even a topic for discussion.
WTF? How do some of you get through the day?
Really? >>
I guess not everyone is the beacon of morality that you are, Steve.
<< <i>quote:vintagechris
Doesn't matter if it is a big store or small store. You should always have your integrity and not have it bought, especially for such a small price. Speaks volumes that some actually say stick it to the big corporate store and say it with pride, conviction and without hesitation, when it should be the complete opposite. Do the right thing with pride, conviction and without hesitation. >>
You're right it's not about big or small. It's about mutual integrity and respect. If a large business sees its customers as resources to be squeezed rather than as people, there's no reason those people shouldn't treat the large business as the faceless, impersonal exploiter that it is. Just because capitalism is in certain ways the best system possible doesn't make it good and isn't necessarily something to be proud of. It is ruthless and commodifies and objectifies and puts a price on absolutely everything - even those things that a major beacon of capitalism, MasterCard, wants you and me to believe are priceless. You should read this article about Target. It's quite eye-opening.
<< <i>quote:TonyC
If someone spots you taking them out of your coat and putting them back, they may think you are doing the opposite and you may end up with shoplifting charges. >>
This made me laugh and it reminded me of a funny quote from The Shield.
Dutch: How does someone steal from a soup kitchen?
Billings: That was his argument, too.
<< <i>quote:footlong
years ago i got a check cashed at the the bank and they gave me $20 too much, new bills stuck together. i noticed this after i left. i thought i should go back then i remembered once before an old lady came back and complained of a shortage and was told once you leave the counter there's nothing they can do. i figured no sense in going back. >>
I couldn't agree more. Rules, integrity, honesty, and most of all, TRUST, have to work both ways. I treat others as they treat me. Like Richie Aprile was once told by Tony Soprano, those who want respect give respect.
It would be nice if all questions of morality were simple and had black and white answers. Unfortunately, there are often complications that result in unique circumstances requiring unique solutions with unique justifications. Sometimes, these justifications end up sounding like excuses to some people.
<< <i>I guess not everyone is the beacon of morality that you are, Steve. >>
As usual you failed to grasp a point, it had nothing to do with my morality nor did it have to do
with what the OP should or shouldn't do.
But, things being what they are nowadays, if you look at me funny I'm a gonna shoot you with my legal gun, shooty shoot shoot. I gots your freedom on the end of a hollow point, melonfarmer!!! Am I tougher, taller and smarter now, cause I sure feel like I is....
<< <i>if you look at me funny I'm a gonna shoot you with my legal gun, >>
lol
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Ralph
<< <i>I can certainly understand people see things differently depending on their personal beliefs and life experiences. And this is true. This past year one of my good friends was in a waffle house for breakfast and the place was robbed at gunpoint. >>
So, how do you feel about waffle houses now, Steve? I think you should just go to Dennys. You can buy both pancakes and waffles there along with a Grand Slam Breakfast. But I do remember when they used to give those fancy hologram cards away with breakfast....ohhhh those were the days!
<< <i>So, how do you feel about waffle houses now, Steve? >>
The same as I did when I wrote the comment. I was being sarcastic......
<< <i>
<< <i>So, how do you feel about waffle houses now, Steve? >>
The same as I did when I wrote the comment. I was being sarcastic...... >>
Yes, Steve, I know you were...I was also being sarcastic
I was just trying to have a little fun with ya, Steve. I actually do have a little bit of a sense of humor.
If i got $20 extra at the bank; i'd keep it.. (makes up for the excessive fees, ATM fees, surcharges etc and all sorts of stuff that used to be free) They got greedy i think its payback.
I tend to rely heavily on a magic eight ball and Miss Cleo.
<< <i>Some people consult a sportscard message board for answers to life's great questions and eBay DSR ratings.
I tend to rely heavily on a magic eight ball and Miss Cleo. >>
The chances are good!