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1805 half dollar : grade opinions ? and value ? grade posted 2/16/12

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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,376 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice!!

    Grade xf45.

    No idea of value.
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  • TexasNationalsTexasNationals Posts: 3,837 ✭
    Nice coin, harsh dip! They shouldn't have sand blasted (E-z-est) it!
  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭✭
    XF something I would think.
    I'm guessing better lighting may make the surfaces look better, as I suspect it looks nice in hand.
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  • TPRCTPRC Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks really nice to me. If it hasn't been cleaned, I would say 40, or even 45. I would need to see it in hand.

    Tom

  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275 ✭
    EF-40 or so. I like the coin image
  • joebb21joebb21 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭✭✭
    45-50
    Possibly cleaned.

    value $1300-$1800 xf range
    $3250-$4000 au range

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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>EF-40 or so. I like the coin image >>

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  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU50
  • michiganboymichiganboy Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭
    xf40 $2300? looks like your going rate.
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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice Choice XF
    Just not quite all there for an AU grade.
    Looks like she has been cleaned but would still pass the smell test.

    edited to add - if that is an XYZ slab then it probably says XF40 because ..... well just because.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    EF40...parts look AU, but uneven, so 40.
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  • DanielBooneDanielBoone Posts: 161 ✭✭
    Obverse has very nice detail...perhaps 45 if the luster is there (hard to tell from photo). Reverse is not as nice as the obverse, so I would say a solid XF40. Looks like it may have been cleaned at some point. Nice coin though!
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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice 40! I'll bet better photos would really show it off.
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  • bosco5041bosco5041 Posts: 1,303 ✭
    I going with EF 40, nice coin. I would probably go 45 if not for the weak spots. Love those bust coins,I don't see how anyone could go wrong these days with early bust coins.
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    XF'ish40 with a gentle baking soda cleaning back in the 60's.

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  • GoldClauseGoldClause Posts: 838 ✭
    35
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>35 >>



    Do you have maybe 10 or 12 DBH you would like to sell me ?
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,018 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the images aren't helping the eye appeal of this coin.
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  • GoldClauseGoldClause Posts: 838 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>35 >>



    Do you have maybe 10 or 12 DBH you would like to sell me ? >>




    I have 200 of them for $5 each.
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,685 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Whoa. I wasn't expecting to see one with quite that much detail.

    I agree that it was probably overdipped in the past, but that's strong detail. I'd say 45-50, too.

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  • Bah1513Bah1513 Posts: 558
    I'm in High XF, possibly cleaned/dipped.....Nice!image
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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think the images aren't helping the eye appeal of this coin. >>



    The eye appeal is what it is. The images may not be helping the perception of the eye appeal. image
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  • deltadimemandeltadimeman Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭
    pcgs graded this 1805 xf40 . yes, my images don't really show the true look of this coin ! looks original and uncleaned in hand, just my opinion ?

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  • GoldClauseGoldClause Posts: 838 ✭


    << <i>Very nice Choice XF
    Just not quite all there for an AU grade.
    Looks like she has been cleaned but would still pass the smell test.

    edited to add - if that is an XYZ slab then it probably says XF40 because ..... well just because. >>





    Looks like my 35 guess was a little closer to the mark than your almost AU guess.
  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Very nice Choice XF
    Just not quite all there for an AU grade.
    Looks like she has been cleaned but would still pass the smell test.

    edited to add - if that is an XYZ slab then it probably says XF40 because ..... well just because. >>





    Looks like my 35 guess was a little closer to the mark than your almost AU guess. >>



    Looks like PCGS undergraded it and you were just further off the mark than they were.
    Besides, there is a big difference between XF and VF and Choice XF is 45 by the way.
    As for those DBH's that you have for sale.....
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    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,717 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 1805 half dollars were struck with dies that had far stronger detail than those used for most of the 1806 and '07 pieces. For that reason the coin appears to be sharper than its true grade would indicate. This piece is very attractive, but it is really an EF-40, nothing higher.

    As to originality, I think the coin was lightly cleaned many years ago and has toned over. Your coin is a very nice example, but the surfaces are a bit too light to be what I would call original. Original silver coins of this vintage are usually darker. I don't have a half dollar of this type that would illustrate this, but I do have a couple silver dollars and half dimes.

    1800 half dime - This coin is actually an AU, but NGC net graded it as an EF-45 because of scratches.

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    1797 half dime, 15 stars, NGC AU-53

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    1802 silver dollar. This one is an AU-58, but the "look" is the type of thing that many collectors view as original.

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