<< <i>Buy it and then start a thread indicting the slab company when it did not cross, did not sticker, did not sticker after crossing, or did not cross after stickering.
I have completed positive sales and purchses from the following members: jclovescoins, dpoole, dmarks, guysmiling, Ducky1100 , piecesofme, ericj96 ,Classof67, ModernCoin, MrOrganic, 53BKid, nychad10, GUINZO1975, derryb (3 times), PinkFloyd
I still think CAC will go away sooner or later. It is a fad. >>
While it may go away sooner or later, it most certainly is NOT a fad. When you have a little more experience with expensive coin purchases, you'll understand what value it provides. >>
Unless coin doctors are completely eradicated from the industry, I dont see it going away. >>
Respectfully, CAC is only a thumbs up service and really has nothing to do with coin doctors. That is the job of TPG's. There is no Red Bean.
To the OP's question, BUY the coin, holder be damned.
We're all born MS70. I'm about a Fine 15 right now.
I suppose if you're only a collector of PCGS plastic, than you should pass......but, if you're a coin collector, than you should definately buy the coin
Crossed to PCGS as AU55 and since restickered green.
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BINGO!
I loved this coin when I saw it so I bought it. Do not need it for my registry, so have no need to cross it. That and its in an old fattie, and I would rather keep it that way.
All coins kept in bank vaults. PCGS Registries Box of 20 SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
The blind faith continues and it is just some other critical eye looking at the coin other than an buyer developing an educated eye-
Unfortunately, there is a difference and the message from all of this is clear-Collectors need to develop grading skills instead of being spoon fed. Unfortunately the whining about the differences in TPG on this forum is a broken record
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
It's really a tough call. For me it depends on the value of the coin. I have several NGC coins whose value wouldn't swing that much up or down if it is undergraded or overgraded. Granted I don't collect coins as an investment, but it comforts the wife and family to know that dollars going out the window for coins may come back through the window if we got in a pinch and needed to sell. I agree with buying the coin and not the holder, which is the common mantra here. But with that said, I just don't trust my grading skills enough to make a call that could be worth hundreds or thousands of dollars if I'm wrong. And though one can't grade from a picture, I have observed that many (really most) of us are just plain wrong when we post our guesses in the "Guess the Grade (GTG)" challenge threads.
Crossed to PCGS as AU55 and since restickered green.
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If it had a green CAC sticker in the NGC slab and PCGS down graded it, shouldn't it have gotten a gold sticker? Or, is CAC as inconsistant as the other grading services?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Crossed to PCGS as AU55 and since restickered green.
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If it had a green CAC sticker in the NGC slab and PCGS down graded it, shouldn't it have gotten a gold sticker? Or, is CAC as inconsistant as the other grading services? >>
Good questions. When I sent the coin to CAC after its visit to PCGS I was asked to provide a photograph of the coin in its NGC holder. I did and it came back green.
I bought this MS63 1885-S DPL paying MS63 PL money for it thinking it would cross to PCGS MS63 PL. As you can see from the new slab PCGS graded it non PL. Sometimes you end up going back to the grading school of hard knocks to learn a litttle more about the standards of how PCGS grades PL and DMPL Morgan's.
(E) If it fits with my collection, I like it, and the price is good, buy it. Then crack it out and leave raw. Kind of like what I also do when I buy coins in PCGS slabs.
Limiting yourself to coins in only PCGS slabs is nuts! To me this means you are just collecting the holder and not the coin. Most of his here for a long time can grade our series as good as PCGS graders or better! So why not buy raw or in other holders?
I feel the same way. If it's a nice coin, I couldn't care less which slab it's in.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
If I think the coin is nice for the grade, the price is reasonable, and the second set of eyes I trust likes the coin, I'll buy it. I don't care about the holders, stickers, etc.
"Vou invadir o Nordeste, "Seu cabra da peste, "Sou Mangueira......."
I would pass. Because, for the series I have collected, I do not think I have seen a Gem CBH, or an AU 58 Early dollar that has ever been priced at the lower grade--even if it deserved it.
However, if I did find a MS 65 CBH in a PC slab, that I could buy for 64 money, I might do it. And then send it in for regrade.
<< <i>How about this: You see a coin in a PCGS holder that is priced right, but overgraded. Priced right that is, for the lower grade. You like it. Do you:
A) Buy it and do nothing. Buy it and have it downgraded. C) Pass. >>
A... because it meets the two key purchasing criteria I have. I couldn't care less about the plastic encasing it.
Up till now I have refused to open this thread. Why you may ask? No, you don't have to ask. You know why. I really hope this thread was posted as a tongue in cheek thread to point out the ridiculousness of plasticmania. I have not looked at any responses and can only hope that this board attracts collectors that are smart, or at the least coin-smart.
many people may not be aware of this, but even the coins that are in PCGS slabs were once raw, and may have even at one time been in a slab of another TPG
regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
Comments
<< <i>Buy it and then start a thread indicting the slab company when it did not cross, did not sticker, did not sticker after crossing, or did not cross after stickering.
^^^^
What RYK said.
8 Reales Madness Collection
JMHO, GrandAm
Hoard the keys.
I have completed positive sales and purchses from the following members:
jclovescoins, dpoole, dmarks, guysmiling, Ducky1100 , piecesofme, ericj96 ,Classof67, ModernCoin, MrOrganic, 53BKid, nychad10, GUINZO1975, derryb (3 times), PinkFloyd
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It depends on what it is.
I still think CAC will go away sooner or later. It is a fad. >>
While it may go away sooner or later, it most certainly is NOT a fad. When you have a little more experience with expensive coin purchases, you'll understand what value it provides. >>
Unless coin doctors are completely eradicated from the industry, I dont see it going away. >>
Respectfully, CAC is only a thumbs up service and really has nothing to do with coin doctors.
That is the job of TPG's.
There is no Red Bean.
To the OP's question, BUY the coin, holder be damned.
Keeper of the VAM Catalog • Professional Coin Imaging • Prime Number Set • World Coins in Early America • British Trade Dollars • Variety Attribution
Crossed to PCGS as AU55 and since restickered green.
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/gold/liberty-head-2-1-gold-major-sets/liberty-head-2-1-gold-basic-set-circulation-strikes-1840-1907-cac/alltimeset/268163
rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
<< <i>Choice D - NGC only if stickered.
Crossed to PCGS as AU55 and since restickered green.
I loved this coin when I saw it so I bought it. Do not need it for my registry, so have no need to cross it. That and its in an old fattie, and I would rather keep it that way.
PCGS Registries
Box of 20
SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
The blind faith continues and it is just some other critical eye looking at the coin other than an buyer developing an educated eye-
Unfortunately, there is a difference and the message from all of this is clear-Collectors need to develop grading skills instead of being spoon fed. Unfortunately the whining about the differences in TPG on this forum is a broken record
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
However, and I am sure I am not alone in this. I am looking for only PCGS, CAC coins. That is due less to coins and more to OCD.
``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5
<< <i>Choice D - NGC only if stickered.
Crossed to PCGS as AU55 and since restickered green.
If it had a green CAC sticker in the NGC slab and PCGS down graded it, shouldn't it have gotten a gold sticker? Or, is CAC as inconsistant as the other grading services?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i>Choice D - NGC only if stickered.
Crossed to PCGS as AU55 and since restickered green.
If it had a green CAC sticker in the NGC slab and PCGS down graded it, shouldn't it have gotten a gold sticker? Or, is CAC as inconsistant as the other grading services? >>
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/gold/liberty-head-2-1-gold-major-sets/liberty-head-2-1-gold-basic-set-circulation-strikes-1840-1907-cac/alltimeset/268163
- Bob -
MPL's - Lincolns of Color
Central Valley Roosevelts
Ed. S.
(EJS)
Lafayette Grading Set
I have many NGC slabs in my collection
Is this a trick question? Buy it, of course, if the price was right. Duh!
Lance.
<< <i>If you saw a coin you wanted in a non-PCGS holder what would you do?
Is this a trick question? Buy it, of course, if the price was right. Duh!
Lance. >>
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
<< <i>C. Buy it and keep it in the same slab
I have many NGC slabs in my collection >>
I feel the same way. If it's a nice coin, I couldn't care less which slab it's in.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I have purchased numerous NGC/CAC Seated Dimes I have not been able to cross.
Still....I purchased them & love them too.
In the end quality coins walk the walk.
Buying top quality Seated Dimes in Gem BU and Proof.
Buying great coins - monster eye appeal only.
Rainbow Stars
"Seu cabra da peste,
"Sou Mangueira......."
is a bit too dicey for me.
If it was just a coin that I wanted, I would buy it, liberate it, and move on.
A) Buy it and do nothing.
C) Pass.
Empty Nest Collection
I would pass. Because, for the series I have collected, I do not think I have seen a Gem CBH, or
an AU 58 Early dollar that has ever been priced at the lower grade--even if it deserved it.
However, if I did find a MS 65 CBH in a PC slab, that I could buy for 64 money, I might do it. And
then send it in for regrade.
<< <i>How about this: You see a coin in a PCGS holder that is priced right, but overgraded. Priced right that is, for the lower grade. You like it. Do you:
A) Buy it and do nothing.
C) Pass. >>
A... because it meets the two key purchasing criteria I have. I couldn't care less about the plastic encasing it.
Why you may ask?
No, you don't have to ask. You know why.
I really hope this thread was posted as a tongue in cheek thread to point out the ridiculousness of plasticmania.
I have not looked at any responses and can only hope that this board attracts collectors that are smart, or at
the least coin-smart.
All the plastic collectors should get out of coins and head over to Ebay and load up on Bakelite and Catalin.
(does this thread violate more than one rule?!)
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