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1901-S Barber Quarter

What do you all think about this quarter? It looks genuine and is in great condition as all of LIBERTY can be read. I was going to throw down a good amount on it tonight but have decided to bypass it as I think the minor corrosion on the back of the coin may lessen the true value of a coin in this condition. Any thoughts?


EBAY 1901-S Barber Quarter

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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,458 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 7,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It appears as though it was recovered with a metal detector. The corrosion would prevent it from grading problem free. If I did purchase it, I think I would send it to NCS to see if they could at least neutralize the corrosion and put it in a details holder. As a key date, it would be much easier to sell if it were in a genuine holder vs. raw.
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    That is what I was thinking. However, I am unsure if this coin would be worth the 7-8k I expect it to sell for in view of the corrosion. Any idea what this would be valued in a auction at say Heritage?
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    STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    I would steer away from this seller. They were a complete hassle to work with
    and did not send me the item as pictured.
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    rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,619 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There is not enough information given to determine if the coin is genuine. 1901-"S" quarters with a fake "S" glued to the back are commonly encountered. The photos do not show the mint mark well enough to even make a guess. This coin would sell for a lot more in a PCGS Genuine holder, so why did the seller not put it in one? They obviously sell expensive coins, so they should know that.
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    I completely agree and this is one reason I posted here about it. I was basing my genuine decision on the date as it lines up about perfectly for how a genuine 1901-s date should.
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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i have taken a pledge-----don't ever comment about 1901-S Barber Quarters!!image
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    relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 7,859 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>i have taken a pledge-----don't ever comment about 1901-S Barber Quarters!!image >>



    Wasn't it a little old lady incident? image
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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    actually, it was a 70-ish gentleman. the little old lady you mentioned might have been from my spoof thread about "rip" chair in the back room of the shop.image
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    JMWJMW Posts: 497
    I've read there are more counterfeit 01-S quarters then real. Add that to the green glob and you got a no vote from me. Buy a nice 4 or 6 in a holder.
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    dogwooddogwood Posts: 1,935 ✭✭✭✭
    A slabbed genuine version is always preferable, despite the higher entry cost.
    Because the exit cost may actually be your biggest consideration.
    We're all born MS70. I'm about a Fine 15 right now.
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    You could have bought a VF details certified 01S for this price.
    Stay away though, coin is a ground recovery, corrosion, cleaned, scratches, rim bumps.
    Enough said...
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,421 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Has the look of the counterfeits coming out of China these days. Pass.

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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Run Forrest Run!!
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    ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 7,900 ✭✭✭✭
    image
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    relicsncoinsrelicsncoins Posts: 7,859 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is a brick and mortar business, so it's not some fly by night ebay operation. I'm pretty sure a buyer would be protected via paypal.
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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,891 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The S doesn't look like the style I would expect on a Barber quarter. Too rounded, and no serifs, from what I see in the pic. I guess it could be the lighting, though. Either way, raw + eBay = bad for that kind of money.
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The seller may have a world famous store front in downtown Sarasota, but it doesn't make the coin any better. It sure ain't no FINE.

    RAW 1901-s Barber quarters are like a box of choc-o-lates, you never know what you're going to get. image
    Time for Forrest to run to the west coast to see if he can find a better one.
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    amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    looks good to me. The denticles are lined up with the date as they should be. Don't think I wouldda paid the 7G's though!
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    MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    I agree, Darrell. It's the real deal.
    Although, if I were spending $7k
    I would want it in at least a Genuine
    Slab.

    BTW, Glenn has ( had ? ) a nice XF
    Details 01-S in an NCS holder.
    Nice coin too.

    Mike Hayes
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    EagleEyeEagleEye Posts: 7,676 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is a VF 1901-S that sold for $23,000 in 2009

    Now this is in a PCGS holder and might have a little more detail, but compared to $7,211.11 for a raw coin with some problems, I think the buyer got a bargain. Took a risk, yes, but not that big on one, since you know where the seller works, in case it is fake. I think Fine was a proper grade for the eBay coin if you net grade it for the problems.
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    AnalystAnalyst Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭

    There are a substantial number of heavily circulated 1901-S quarters that have been certified by the PCGS or by our friends ATS. I suggest acquiring certified 1901-S quarters from mainstream dealers or from the three major auction firms. There were some relatively affordable 1901-S quarters in the most recent auction by the Goldbergs:

    Circulated Barber Quarters, with emphasis upon recent auction results for Key Dates


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    LucanusLucanus Posts: 424 ✭✭✭
    Why would anyone bid on a raw 01-S quarter being sold on ebay?

    Doug
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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,151 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A problem coin will always be a problem coin. I'd vote for a nice good rather than a problem F-VF.

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    Genuine
    Solid vf details
    At 7k I will sell both of my 01-s, both vf details, still $14k before fees is tempting
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    Dave99BDave99B Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it's legit; difficult to tell via these pics. Key word 'think'.

    Problems or not, dang RARE in F. Tough!

    I'd personally prefer a lower grade non-problem 01-S. I hate problem coins...period. One of my many hangups!

    Dave
    Always looking for original, better date VF20-VF35 Barber quarters and halves, and a quality beer.
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    stealerstealer Posts: 3,968 ✭✭✭✭
    Nothing alerts me as fake. However, that corrosion will always be corrosion. Just settle for a problem free one graded to save any headaches!
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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,198 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yep, looks like a detector find. I'm waiting for the day I dig mine. (Hey... it could happen.)

    Buyer or seller, if I owned that, I'd get it in a Genuine slab. Maybe with a trip through NCS first, though I'd probably attempt the doctoring myself, if I wasn't too nervous.

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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This coin does not look like it came out of the ground.I've dug many silver coins,including Barber Quarters,and have never seen one with anygreen on it,meaning nada,zero,zilch, from reacting with ground chemicals.


    Having said this,why would anyone fake a 1901-S quarter by adding the mintmark to a genuine 1901 and then put green carp on the mintmark side of the coin?

    In summary:

    1. Coin did not come out of the ground.
    2. The green is not verdigris like found on copper coins.The green might be fairly easy to remove and one would never know there was anything there.
    3. The coin could easily be genuine.

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    I have always wondered why the 1901-S quarter is so high priced.

    Compare it to many of the S mint seated quarters which are far rarer and they are priced at a fraction of what these sell for.

    Are there that many Barber quarter collectors out there???
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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭✭✭
    lord,i didn't make my post just to disagree with you although it may appear that way since,unbeknownst to me at the time i was composing my post, you had posted some 20 minutes earlier.

    I acknowledge that my experience metal detecting in the central part of the US is different in many ways from yours in the Southeastern US.

    Sometimes .900 silver thats been in the ground in this central part of the country will have black discoloration,presumably from the silver reacting with water and tiny amounts of hydrogen sulfide gas that gets created in the soil.

    I just wanted to clarify that in "my experience" I have never seen green corrosion on a .900 fine coin that has been in the ground.

    I found two Barber Quarters years ago,a '14-D and '14-S.They were both XF or so condition and "shiny bright" with those tiny scratches going every which direction that can easily be seen with a 10x loupe.

    The '14-S,mintage 264,000, is the scarcest coin I have ever found with metal detector.Wish I still had it.Sold it for $100 as I recall.image

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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,303 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have always wondered why the 1901-S quarter is so high priced.

    Compare it to many of the S mint seated quarters which are far rarer and they are priced at a fraction of what these sell for.

    Are there that many Barber quarter collectors out there??? >>




    The 1901-s and 1916 quarters has been the kings of 20th century quarters. They have received a ton of publicity and demand over that time. Many non-Barber
    and non-SLQ collectors just want one because they are so scarce. The 1901-s almost always shows up in Fair-VG. There are hundreds or thousands of 19th century
    coins that are much rarer than the 1901-s but sell for a fraction of its price. There is also much weaker demand for those coins. In 1970 very few people cared about
    S mint seated quarters. But the gap between those and the 1901-s has been closing every since. There are far more Barber 25c set collectors than seated 25c. There are
    also a new breed of collectors or key date specialists that just want to own a couple key date seated quarters just because they are rare.

    This 1901-s doesn't look like it's been cleaned as there is still plenty of dirt in the devices. So an extended bath in acetone, ammonia, etc. may remove the bulk of that green stuff.
    It doesn't look like anyone has tried yet.
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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,198 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Mr1874- normally I would agree with you on the way Barber quarters look when coming outta the ground, and the fact that corrosion is seldom encountered on dug silver.

    However, it so happens that the nicest Barber quarter I've found (1894-O, XF details) is a bit porous in places. No green on it, but that could happen, I suppose. Different soils can do some freaky stuff. The site where I found mine (a median strip down the center of the street in an old neighborhood) had some strangely anomalous soil for about a half-block area. I dug a Merc that also had some porosity issues. Seldom encountered that anywhere else, and some of the silver from just a few hundred yards away came out just fine. Go figure.

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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 01-S and 16 quarters are like the 16-D dime.......not rare at all......but very very very expensive!!

    Edited to add....I wouldn't be surprised that if you had the $$$ you could walk into any major show and buy a roll of all 3 coins.
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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The '01-S that is the subject of this thread:

    I'm thinking $7K and some change is a bargain for this one since it has full Liberty and that green stuff looks like it will come off.

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    Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,147 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The 01-S and 16 quarters are like the 16-D dime.......not rare at all......but very very very expensive!!
    Edited to add....I wouldn't be surprised that if you had the $$$ you could walk into any major show and buy a roll of all 3 coins. >>


    Yes, but unlike the 09-SVDB cent, which is readily available in all grades, these three coins are scarce in higher grades.
    I would think assembling a roll of 01S quarters in VF/XF would be a lifetime's work.
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    << <i>The 01-S and 16 quarters are like the 16-D dime.......not rare at all......but very very very expensive!!

    Edited to add....I wouldn't be surprised that if you had the $$$ you could walk into any major show and buy a roll of all 3 coins. >>



    1916 D dime yes
    A dated 1916 quarter roll, your dreaming
    An 01-S roll. Not possible. This coin is rarely submitted or seen. More fakes than genuines exist.
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 33,481 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The 1901-S quarter is one of the main reasons why I'm glad I never got interested in collecting Barber quarters beyond a 1913 Proof set and a type coin. After I saw a raw one offered at a FUN show in FR-2 at $5,500 I KNEW I did not want to get anywhere near that series in a big way as a dealer or as a collector.

    As for this on I would not touch that piece active corrosion on the reverse under any circumsatnces.
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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It seems to me that if the green was active corrosion we would be seeing at least a few silver coins on ebay with green on them that cannot be attributed to PVC contamination.

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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,151 ✭✭✭✭✭
    16 SL Quarters and 16-D Mercs in F-AU are a dime a dozen compared to the 01-S in a similar grade. And what few are around have issues.

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    jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,596 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "continuing the 20 year search for a 1901-s quarter in AU"

    when you find it, sell me the vf-35 you have!
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    << <i>16 SL Quarters and 16-D Mercs in F-AU are a dime a dozen compared to the 01-S in a similar grade. And what few are around have issues.

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    Vern - Continuing the 20 year search to find a nice AU 01-S. >>



    I do realize that like many key date Barber coins 1901-S quarters are very tough to find in F-AU as Barber coins tended to wear rather quickly but there still are hundreds of them around in lower grades fair to VG.
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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great thread.
    Frank

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    barberkeysbarberkeys Posts: 4,151 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jim - As you know, finding the right AU is the tough part. Hope I see it before you (or Doug), or I won't get it.

    Thought I'd add pics of a beautiful 01-S, that is now back in the hands of a member of the forum.

    image
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