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SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,561 ✭✭✭✭✭
Curiosity got the best of me and I looked at the case docket today.

Still no judgment file in the case. So things are still in limbo hanging around in the trial court. No appeal to the appellate court can be taken until a judgment is filed in the trial court.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thank you for checking and reporting.
    TD
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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,929 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yep, thanks for looking.

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  • littlebearlittlebear Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the update.


    Larry L.


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  • epcjimi1epcjimi1 Posts: 3,489 ✭✭✭
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    Thanks
  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the heads-up !!!
    Timbuk3
  • mariner67mariner67 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for the update.
    I think that there is no way they will get those coins back.
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  • EVillageProwlerEVillageProwler Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Would someone please give a brief summary?

    How does one get a hater to stop hating?

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  • mrpotatoheaddmrpotatoheadd Posts: 7,576 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Would someone please give a brief summary? >>

    If the government wants something you have, they can take it from you.
  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, it's been a long time....thanks for the update. I'm glad curiosity got the best of ya! image
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  • secondrepublicsecondrepublic Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Would someone please give a brief summary? >>



    Dim-witted jury buys government argument that these coins "must have" been stolen, and ignores substantial scholarly evidence that coins could have legally left the mint.
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  • LanceNewmanOCCLanceNewmanOCC Posts: 19,999 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow, it's been a long time....thanks for the update. I'm glad curiosity got the best of ya! image >>



    if memory serves, one of last couple updates (one with a lot of posts) stated something to the effect that the current judgment/appeals could possibly take years.
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  • ebaybuyerebaybuyer Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭
    << Would someone please give a brief summary? >>

    If the government wants something you have, they can take it from you.


    ... that about sums it up
    regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for checking and letting us knowimage
  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,552 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sanction II, thank you for checking on this!

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭✭


    Thanks SanctionII!
  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No news is good news................. for somebody. image
  • AnalystAnalyst Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭
    SecondRepublic: <<... jury buys government argument that these coins "must have" been stolen, and ignores substantial scholarly evidence that coins could have legally left the mint.>>

    As I emphasized in my articles, with supporting statements by QDB and R. W. Julian, there are thousands of legitimate coins for which records were never entered in the cashier’s ledger in the way that U.S. attorneys now say was then required. Moreover, it is almost certain that U.S. Mint personnel at the Cashier’s window often did NOT record ‘coin for coin’ exchanges. The fact that there are not cashier’s records of 1933 Double Eagles having been ‘paid out’ does NOT demonstrate that any were stolen. The lack of such records now does not even suggest that any 1933 Double Eagles were stolen.

    Though some 1933 Double Eagles were said to be “unaccounted for,” the total number of Double Eagles was unchanged. In relation to 1933 Double Eagles, no gold was missing.

    Is there any evidence of thefts relating to 1933 Double Eagles? There were ‘coin for coin’ exchanges, which were considered legitimate by many employees of the U.S. Mint. My impression is that it was common for coin dealers, coin collectors, and tourists to engage in ‘coin for coin’ exchanges, often trading relatively common coins for scarcer coins, or old coins for new ones. According to QDB, U.S. Mint employees did so as well.

    Analysis of the Verdict in the Switt-Langbord Case, with comments by QDB and David Ganz

    Pre-Verdict Analysis of the Switt-Langbord Case while the trial was in progress




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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the update... was thinking of this yesterday. Looks like it will be a long wait for any action. Cheers, RickO
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not that he would but could President Obama issue an executive order to return the coins to the Langbords?
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  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,552 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The judge ruled against. I thought we already got the memo. He ruled for the U.S. and that is us, too. So who wins ? Everyone.
    Who has the coins ? That's 90% of the law. Possession ! I think we should take up a collection and give the Langbords millions for keeping them safe all those years.

    Simple enough. Case closed.
  • BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,255 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Would be interesting to see the vote if it was a referendum item on the next presidential election ballot.

    Should the Government return the 10 1933 double eagle gold coins to the Langbord family? Yes or no?
    theknowitalltroll;


  • << <i>Not that he would but could President Obama issue an executive order to return the coins to the Langbords? >>



    Yes. But it will never happen.
  • << Not that he would but could President Obama issue an executive order to return the coins to the Langbords? >> Yes. But it will never happen

    Is this correct? Basically, a trial was held, and a decision was made that these coins are government property. Where does the constitution give the President the authority to give away government property?

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