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Are there 2 non-fs labels. Someone said there are black label non fs. Please respond
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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,137 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Are there 2 non-fs labels. Someone said there are black label non fs. Please respond >>



    Not sure about that. The black or toomstone label, does have the fs designation, but no Mercanti signature. I may be wrong though.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • I have seen mercanti signed 25th set coins that were not labeled as first strike.
  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,604 ✭✭✭✭✭
    we need a label grading company to address issues like this. image

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  • here are some examples
    ebay item #'s
    200696394481
    200696397981
    190623692744
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,137 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ok...so there is a non fs Mercanti label. I did not know that.
    What about the Tombstone Label? Are they all fs?
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • GOWYOGOWYO Posts: 141 ✭✭
    Not trying to hijack this board but I just wanna make a point... IMO as a new collector/grader and new member to our host I find this chasing the labels game mind numbing! This is flat out ridiculous. When I sent in my lone 25th anniversary set I was not given options on the label. Yes my set was FS eligible so I got the flag label but I was under the impression that there were three labels... flag mercanti and non FS (blue?). Man was I naive
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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,137 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Not trying to hijack this board but I just wanna make a point... IMO as a new collector/grader and new member to our host I find this chasing the labels game mind numbing! This is flat out ridiculous. When I sent in my lone 25th anniversary set I was not given options on the label. Yes my set was FS eligible so I got the flag label but I was under the impression that there were three labels... flag mercanti and non FS (blue?). Man was I naive >>



    In order to have qualified for the Mercanti label fs, a minimum of 5 sets at a grading cost of $250 per set, had to be submitted. The minimum requirement for the Mercanti Flag label, I've been told, is considerable higher.
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Are there 2 non-fs labels. Someone said there are black label non fs. Please respond >>



    The simple answer is "yes," because so-called Black Label and non-FS are not mutually exclusive! To get the Black Label or Mercanti signtaure, you simply have to submit at least 5 sets and pay the appropriate fee. To get FS, your sets have to be in a box dated before the deadline (I believe that is 12/7 or 12/8). The Black Label and Mercantis are FS eligible, but they still have to meet the FS criteria to receive the FS designation. If you buy Black Label or Mercanti, and your box is dated after the cutoff -- voila, you have non-FS Black Label or Mercanti slabs!
  • Join the crowd. I thought blue non-fs was it, end, I saw them as rare nobody had any or very few. Now there are 2-3-4 new labels.
    mari20len1
  • PRIZ430PRIZ430 Posts: 306 ✭✭✭
    Don't forget the "secure plus" label...also is offered for these sets......So..let me see if I have this right...we have
    Mercanti signature FS
    Blue flag FS
    Mercanti signature - Flag FS
    Tombstone FS
    Secure Plus FS

    Mercanti signature Non FS
    Tombstone Non FS
    Regular Blue Non FS

    Did I cover them all????
  • illini420illini420 Posts: 11,466 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Don't forget the "secure plus" label...also is offered for these sets......So..let me see if I have this right...we have
    Mercanti signature FS
    Blue flag FS
    Mercanti signature - Flag FS
    Tombstone FS
    Secure Plus FS

    Mercanti signature Non FS
    Tombstone Non FS
    Regular Blue Non FS

    Did I cover them all???? >>




    probably could have Secure Plus Non FS as well
  • NJCoinNJCoin Posts: 2,931 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Don't forget the "secure plus" label...also is offered for these sets......So..let me see if I have this right...we have
    Mercanti signature FS
    Blue flag FS
    Mercanti signature - Flag FS
    Tombstone FS
    Secure Plus FS

    Mercanti signature Non FS
    Tombstone Non FS
    Regular Blue Non FS

    Did I cover them all???? >>




    probably could have Secure Plus Non FS as well >>



    While I agree that there are probably a few too many labels for this one set, I think it's a little unfair to count each FS on an existing label as a separate label in order to make the point. Other than the well known flag FS label, all of the others are merely FS designations on existing labels, rather than unique labels onto themselves.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,271 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>While I agree that there are probably a few too many labels for this one set, I think it's a little unfair to count each FS on an existing label as a separate label in order to make the point. >>


    Not really. The whole point would seem to be an illustration of distinction without a difference, of which this is a fantastic example.

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