I saw another example that sold yesterday with poor side to side centering for $19 with shipping.
The example I will be getting in the mail soon at least has what appears to me as good centering. Maybe he thought it was nice for the grade or maybe he was just throwing it out there and hoping for lighting to strike and it did.
ha! I was fooled too at first look. it looked like a rose rc to me but then I had to do a double look then I read more on this thread. Sorry to hear what happened Dpeck. Hopefully the card gets lost in the mail and you can claim your $ back. My fingers are crossed that that happens for you.
<< <i>Is it possible that CodyP did in fact make a mistake here?
Did anyone look to see if he has other cards overpriced 10 fold?
This is mess, David I bet you're glad this happened now and not
when you first got here.
Before anyone blasts me, yeah I know he is a dirt bag.
But it just might be a 'big mistake on both ends here'
Steve >>
I've looked at many of his auctions, and they are usually only 3-4 times overpriced. I'd say this was an error on his part.
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Wow I just now caught up with this thread... DPeck that sucks about what happened, but way to man up! I've definitely done that a time or two, but never had the balls to admit it. Most of my big losses come from modern boxes though.
Ever wish a seller would add YOU to their BBL? lol
He has some nice cards...but they are always well above VCP...and he never seems to lower his price. Months (sometimes years) go by with the same overpriced BIN's.
Now only if I had won the PSA 9 All Stars Andre the Giant card and put it up on ebay for $21,040 and waited for my man Dpeck to have a momentary lapse in judgment. :-)
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I think the buyer here is a class act. Kudos. Although apparently some if not most here aren't willing to do so if they were in the same situation, he realized that he was the one who made the mistake and thus isn't going to try to screw over the seller for it. Others can inject strawman arguments about the seller's pricing, etc. all they wish- but in the end there's only one person hitting the buy button...and it's not the seller.
<< <i>but in the end there's only one person hitting the buy button...and it's not the seller. >>
But it's also another thing trying to 'trick' people into pulling the trigger of a grossly overpriced item. I can picture a housewife making the same mistake as well, trying to buy a 'Pete Rose' rookie for her husband. Not saying the seller was trying to 'trick' people, but how else can you describe a card that has a base price, and a long history of selling for $15, being listed for $150?
<< <i>Although apparently some if not most here aren't willing to do so if they were in the same situation, he realized that he was the one who made the mistake and thus isn't going to try to screw over the seller for it. >>
But, the seller wouldn't be screwed if the buyer pays the ebay/paypal fees and adds another $5 for his time. In fact, he should be happy for basically getting $5 for free. I don't see any reason to pay the entire $150.
First of all, to echo what others have said... sorry for your loss but good for you for being able to laugh it off. Let's face it, you just bought yourself a pretty good $150 story, at the very least. :-)
But secondly... I'd relist at $200 BIN. Anyone looking at past sales will see the sudden price spike in that card and want to get on that train on the way up!!!
<< <i>BIN's need to be scrutinized as carefully as that hot number you're taking home from the bar. Know exactly what you're getting before hitting it. Snooki-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Not Snooki >>
Amazingly little difference between these two pictures....
<< <i>Although apparently some if not most here aren't willing to do so if they were in the same situation, he realized that he was the one who made the mistake and thus isn't going to try to screw over the seller for it. >>
But, the seller wouldn't be screwed if the buyer pays the ebay/paypal fees and adds another $5 for his time. In fact, he should be happy for basically getting $5 for free. I don't see any reason to pay the entire $150. >>
Laying aside the "overpriced" argument for a second...in fact let's just take this particular transaction out of the equation for a second... As a seller I wouldn't "be happy" investing my time acquiring, slabbing, photographing and listing something only to have someone who either can't read or look closely enough at my pics to know what they're actually buying do a BIN and then tell me I should just be happy with $5 as compensation for their screwup and for wasting my time....not to mention the stigma of "something must be wrong with it" that often comes with relisted items and usually translates to a lower selling price (if any) the next time. (And again, I realize there are other factors involved in this particular situation being discussed, i.e, the card was priced well above market, etc. but I am speaking about ebay transactions in general here).
My point is that there are entirely too many buyers who place little to no value on a seller's time, overhead and investment. The buyer in this particular case is a rare exception. Were I the seller in this particular deal I'd have actually let him off the hook and refunded him upon return of the item, less my fees, as thanks for being someone with the integrity to stand behind his actions and follow through even though it would have been to his detriment.
But it's also another thing trying to 'trick' people into pulling the trigger of a grossly overpriced item. I can picture a housewife making the same mistake as well, trying to buy a 'Pete Rose' rookie for her husband. Not saying the seller was trying to 'trick' people, but how else can you describe a card that has a base price, and a long history of selling for $15, being listed for $150?
How does the housewife stumble upon this card if she's searching for Pete Rose? Pete Rose isn't in the title, description, or picture. Oh it's a red blue and yellow card, same as Rose but just lacks Rose's head name and card number. The seller wasn't trying to trick anyone into thinking it was Rose. The seller did nothing wrong. He just had a card sitting there and along came a buyer blinded by cardgold fever.
<< <i>But it's also another thing trying to 'trick' people into pulling the trigger of a grossly overpriced item. I can picture a housewife making the same mistake as well, trying to buy a 'Pete Rose' rookie for her husband. Not saying the seller was trying to 'trick' people, but how else can you describe a card that has a base price, and a long history of selling for $15, being listed for $150? >>
The fact that this card was priced above recent sales is of no importance. He could have been fishing as indicated but I am more inclined to think he was hoping a novice card collector would think $150 was not that much for a fairly nice baseball card from 1963.
I can't tell you how many people I work with or talk to that when they find out I collect cards they mention they did too and might have a fortune.
When I explain to them condition and how in many cases that is what creates rarity it then becomes clear their played with cards have little value in most cases.
The only person with any blame here is me. I made a silly mistake and no one told me to hit the Buy It Now.
The leason here is once again if it is to good to be true, stay away. If I had taken a moment to study the auction the mistake would have never happened but I figured someone else might beat me to the punch so I hit the trigger.
Would I personally allow me out of the transaction? Yes I would have. But that being said if you are a seller with this kind of volume I see no need what so ever for him to do so. He has 2600+ feedback in one month. He has to draw a line on how to run his operation and constantly selling, then refunding, then relisting is not a good business model for a high transaction seller.
As someone said before, this is just the cost of a night of drinking and a great lesson for me to learn first hand although I would have rather just read about.
<< <i>Although apparently some if not most here aren't willing to do so if they were in the same situation, he realized that he was the one who made the mistake and thus isn't going to try to screw over the seller for it. >>
But, the seller wouldn't be screwed if the buyer pays the ebay/paypal fees and adds another $5 for his time. In fact, he should be happy for basically getting $5 for free. I don't see any reason to pay the entire $150. >>
As a seller I wouldn't "be happy" investing my time acquiring, slabbing, photographing and listing something only to have someone who either can't read or look closely enough at my pics to know what they're actually buying do a BIN and then tell me I should just be happy with $5 as compensation for their screwup and for wasting my time.... >>
It's not like the seller has to acquire, slab, and photograph all over again. All he has to do is relist it. The same thing happened to me (I was the seller). It was certainly no big deal. I made $5 for probably about 3 minutes of my time (that's $100/hour).
"If anyone wants the card once I get it just PM me and I will send it to you for free so I don't have to be reminded I just flushed $150 down the toilet." Nobody wanted it? Maybe we all just want you to get some money back.
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The example I will be getting in the mail soon at least has what appears to me as good centering. Maybe he thought it was nice for the grade or maybe he was just throwing it out there and hoping for lighting to strike and it did.
<< <i>Is it possible that CodyP did in fact make a mistake here?
Did anyone look to see if he has other cards overpriced 10 fold?
This is mess, David I bet you're glad this happened now and not
when you first got here.
Before anyone blasts me, yeah I know he is a dirt bag.
But it just might be a 'big mistake on both ends here'
Steve
I've looked at many of his auctions, and they are usually only 3-4 times overpriced. I'd say this was an error on his part.
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It's no big deal. I've done it more times than I like to remember.
He doesn't need anyone's opinion of the seller to tell him what's right.
There's certainly no need to try and sell him on a BS snad claim.
I he couldn't afford a $135 dollar loss he wouldn't be collecting.
Ever wish a seller would add YOU to their BBL? lol
<< <i>Ever wish a seller would add YOU to their BBL? lol >>
Yessssssssssss!!
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Snooki-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Not Snooki
Although apparently some if not most here aren't willing to do so if they were in the same situation, he realized that he was the one who made the mistake and thus isn't going to try to screw over the seller for it.
Others can inject strawman arguments about the seller's pricing, etc. all they wish- but in the end there's only one person hitting the buy button...and it's not the seller.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
<< <i>but in the end there's only one person hitting the buy button...and it's not the seller. >>
But it's also another thing trying to 'trick' people into pulling the trigger of a grossly overpriced item. I can picture a housewife making the same mistake as well, trying to buy a 'Pete Rose' rookie for her husband. Not saying the seller was trying to 'trick' people, but how else can you describe a card that has a base price, and a long history of selling for $15, being listed for $150?
it is and always will be the buyer's responsibility to beware.
there's no law against overpricing.
<< <i>Although apparently some if not most here aren't willing to do so if they were in the same situation, he realized that he was the one who made the mistake and thus isn't going to try to screw over the seller for it.
>>
But, the seller wouldn't be screwed if the buyer pays the ebay/paypal fees and adds another $5 for his time. In fact, he should be happy for basically getting $5 for free. I don't see any reason to pay the entire $150.
But secondly... I'd relist at $200 BIN. Anyone looking at past sales will see the sudden price spike in that card and want to get on that train on the way up!!!
<< <i>BIN's need to be scrutinized as carefully as that hot number you're taking home from the bar. Know exactly what you're getting before hitting it.
Snooki-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Not Snooki
Amazingly little difference between these two pictures....
<< <i>
<< <i>Although apparently some if not most here aren't willing to do so if they were in the same situation, he realized that he was the one who made the mistake and thus isn't going to try to screw over the seller for it.
>>
But, the seller wouldn't be screwed if the buyer pays the ebay/paypal fees and adds another $5 for his time. In fact, he should be happy for basically getting $5 for free. I don't see any reason to pay the entire $150. >>
Laying aside the "overpriced" argument for a second...in fact let's just take this particular transaction out of the equation for a second...
As a seller I wouldn't "be happy" investing my time acquiring, slabbing, photographing and listing something only to have someone who either can't read or look closely enough at my pics to know what they're actually buying do a BIN and then tell me I should just be happy with $5 as compensation for their screwup and for wasting my time....not to mention the stigma of "something must be wrong with it" that often comes with relisted items and usually translates to a lower selling price (if any) the next time. (And again, I realize there are other factors involved in this particular situation being discussed, i.e, the card was priced well above market, etc. but I am speaking about ebay transactions in general here).
My point is that there are entirely too many buyers who place little to no value on a seller's time, overhead and investment. The buyer in this particular case is a rare exception. Were I the seller in this particular deal I'd have actually let him off the hook and refunded him upon return of the item, less my fees, as thanks for being someone with the integrity to stand behind his actions and follow through even though it would have been to his detriment.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
How does the housewife stumble upon this card if she's searching for Pete Rose? Pete Rose isn't in the title, description, or picture. Oh it's a red blue and yellow card, same as Rose but just lacks Rose's head name and card number. The seller wasn't trying to trick anyone into thinking it was Rose. The seller did nothing wrong. He just had a card sitting there and along came a buyer blinded by cardgold fever.
<< <i>But it's also another thing trying to 'trick' people into pulling the trigger of a grossly overpriced item. I can picture a housewife making the same mistake as well, trying to buy a 'Pete Rose' rookie for her husband. Not saying the seller was trying to 'trick' people, but how else can you describe a card that has a base price, and a long history of selling for $15, being listed for $150? >>
I refer you to the title of this thread.
<< <i>But it's also another thing trying to 'trick' people into pulling the trigger of a grossly overpriced item. >>
Potential: Above average.
I can't tell you how many people I work with or talk to that when they find out I collect cards they mention they did too and might have a fortune.
When I explain to them condition and how in many cases that is what creates rarity it then becomes clear their played with cards have little value in most cases.
The only person with any blame here is me. I made a silly mistake and no one told me to hit the Buy It Now.
The leason here is once again if it is to good to be true, stay away. If I had taken a moment to study the auction the mistake would have never happened but I figured someone else might beat me to the punch so I hit the trigger.
Would I personally allow me out of the transaction? Yes I would have. But that being said if you are a seller with this kind of volume I see no need what so ever for him to do so. He has 2600+ feedback in one month. He has to draw a line on how to run his operation and constantly selling, then refunding, then relisting is not a good business model for a high transaction seller.
As someone said before, this is just the cost of a night of drinking and a great lesson for me to learn first hand although I would have rather just read about.
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<< <i>Although apparently some if not most here aren't willing to do so if they were in the same situation, he realized that he was the one who made the mistake and thus isn't going to try to screw over the seller for it.
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But, the seller wouldn't be screwed if the buyer pays the ebay/paypal fees and adds another $5 for his time. In fact, he should be happy for basically getting $5 for free. I don't see any reason to pay the entire $150. >>
As a seller I wouldn't "be happy" investing my time acquiring, slabbing, photographing and listing something only to have someone who either can't read or look closely enough at my pics to know what they're actually buying do a BIN and then tell me I should just be happy with $5 as compensation for their screwup and for wasting my time.... >>
It's not like the seller has to acquire, slab, and photograph all over again. All he has to do is relist it. The same thing happened to me (I was the seller). It was certainly no big deal. I made $5 for probably about 3 minutes of my time (that's $100/hour).
After reading the post (TonyC) on his reply feedback to others I was wondering how this person treats other people in his daily life!!
Rob
Steve
Nobody wanted it? Maybe we all just want you to get some money back.
I am hoping to get a bite with my listing.
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