<< <i>I would love to see the dealers get rid of the idiots who spread their stuff out on top of the case and cover all the dealers coins. >>
I usually just move their stuff so I can look in the dealers case. You should see the shock on their face.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Yep... I have moved 'table campers' stuff so I could see the dealers wares... they get quite indignant. I tell them to "FO, I am trying to see what is offered under your crap." Cheers, RickO
A customer got a phone call just as he arrived at my table. He answered it, which I had no problem with, then made another call, which I had no problem with. But then he made 4 more calls while still standing at my table. Once I could get a word in, I asked him to leave my table and find another place to make his calls.
Another customer got into a big argument with my wife when I interceded. He expected me to take his side. Wrong answer.
So, yes, there are circumstances when a dealer can and will ask a customer to leave his table, and in these cases I believed I was justified in doing exactly that.
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
I've seen a few show dealers that don't want any chairs in front of their tables to discourage people from getting too comfortable and blocking their cases from actual buyers.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>Yes, and a dealer can ask another dealer to leave as well.
I watched JK put up with a obnoxious individual for much longer than I would have (at the FUN show) and was shocked to find out it was another dealer. >>
I stopped at JK's table to gawk at his playoff beard while at FUN. I reached over the table to touch it. It was eerily soft. I think he puts conditioner on it. MJ
Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
<< <i>I've seen a few show dealers that don't want any chairs in front of their tables to discourage people from getting too comfortable and blocking their cases from actual buyers. >>
....that would include us. Chairs are an open invitation for time wasters to camp out imo. I believe I told the story elsewhere about asking a guy to leave our tables when he wanted to sit down- to eat a sandwich...
I'm sorry but anyone who seems to think it's their God-given right to spread their stuff out on top of our cases for 3 hours going through boxes of coins one at a time with a glass and a Cherrypicker guide is profoundly mistaken. Realistically, most savvy dealers should normally be able to tell if someone's a serious buyer or a time waster within 10 minutes max imo. Yeah, I hear the stories about how "this one guy ended up buying $X amount"... but I'm thinking "how many sales did you LOSE while he was monopolizing your table?" I know that if I am not set up and just walking a show as a buyer I'm there looking for certain things and have X amount of time to locate them ...so if you're jabbering with some nimrod about nothing and/or I can't see into your cases because there's a guy hogging the space, I move on to the next guy and he gets my money. So I think about those type of buyers when I'm behind the table as well. Especially when I have high 3- or low 4 digits in show expenses to cover before I break even. The reality is that there are some "customers" you can't afford to have.
I recently dealt with one of these situations. A collector walked up to my table and asked to see a key date CAC'd early silver coin that was attractive, original and (in my opinion) PQ for the assigned grade. He asked to see the coin and said that he knew which auction it came out of - I acknowledged that I had been the successful bidder. He then told me that he was sure that the coin had been recently doctored, and that two dealers had independently told him that the toning on it was recent and bogus. Interestingly enough, I happened to know the consignor of the piece, as well as its history back into the 1960s, and had no doubt as to its originality.
I started to defend the piece, then stopped after deciding to see what else he had to say about it.
He spent a little more time disparaging the coin before asking what I wanted for it - I quoted him and he immediately started to haggle with me. After he repeated the artificial toning line, I looked at him and said, "You seem to have a lot of doubts about the quality of this piece, and I couldn't possibly sell it to you in good conscience knowing that you would always look at it and wonder whether it was up to your standards. I think you probably ought to find another example."
His response was something along the lines of, "Um, ok..."
He left me alone for the rest of the show, and I didn't have to be rude. As an aside, the coin sold the following week to a very picky collector.
What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
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<< <i>I would love to see the dealers get rid of the idiots who spread their stuff out on top of the case and cover all the dealers coins. >>
I usually just move their stuff so I can look in the dealers case. You should see the shock on their face.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Another customer got into a big argument with my wife when I interceded. He expected me to take his side. Wrong answer.
So, yes, there are circumstances when a dealer can and will ask a customer to leave his table, and in these cases I believed I was justified in doing exactly that.
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>Yes, and a dealer can ask another dealer to leave as well.
I watched JK put up with a obnoxious individual for much longer than I would have (at the FUN show) and was shocked to find out it was another dealer.
I stopped at JK's table to gawk at his playoff beard while at FUN. I reached over the table to touch it. It was eerily soft. I think he puts conditioner on it. MJ
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
<< <i>I've seen a few show dealers that don't want any chairs in front of their tables to discourage people from getting too comfortable and blocking their cases from actual buyers. >>
....that would include us. Chairs are an open invitation for time wasters to camp out imo. I believe I told the story elsewhere about asking a guy to leave our tables when he wanted to sit down- to eat a sandwich...
I'm sorry but anyone who seems to think it's their God-given right to spread their stuff out on top of our cases for 3 hours going through boxes of coins one at a time with a glass and a Cherrypicker guide is profoundly mistaken. Realistically, most savvy dealers should normally be able to tell if someone's a serious buyer or a time waster within 10 minutes max imo. Yeah, I hear the stories about how "this one guy ended up buying $X amount"... but I'm thinking "how many sales did you LOSE while he was monopolizing your table?" I know that if I am not set up and just walking a show as a buyer I'm there looking for certain things and have X amount of time to locate them ...so if you're jabbering with some nimrod about nothing and/or I can't see into your cases because there's a guy hogging the space, I move on to the next guy and he gets my money. So I think about those type of buyers when I'm behind the table as well. Especially when I have high 3- or low 4 digits in show expenses to cover before I break even. The reality is that there are some "customers" you can't afford to have.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
<< <i>I was at a dealers table at the first Philly Whitman show waiting for him to finish talking to another collector.
The fellow was so deeply engrossed in conversation that he inadvertently began digging in one of his nostrils.
Then wiped his fresh discovery on the edge of one of the dealers cases while still chatting away without knowing what he'd done was asked to leave. >>
Dagnabit, Broadstruck! Took me years to get that image out of my head from the last time you told that story. Now it's back again!
I started to defend the piece, then stopped after deciding to see what else he had to say about it.
He spent a little more time disparaging the coin before asking what I wanted for it - I quoted him and he immediately started to haggle with me. After he repeated the artificial toning line, I looked at him and said, "You seem to have a lot of doubts about the quality of this piece, and I couldn't possibly sell it to you in good conscience knowing that you would always look at it and wonder whether it was up to your standards. I think you probably ought to find another example."
His response was something along the lines of, "Um, ok..."
He left me alone for the rest of the show, and I didn't have to be rude. As an aside, the coin sold the following week to a very picky collector.
What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake