Home World & Ancient Coins Forum

hmm, count the ways this CAR 8R was abused

Just picked this up for a low amount for a kick-around example. The coin totally confuses me, the detail is AWESOME. The hole, if it's contemporary, seems to be cut almost too perfect. so I figured, maybe it's a red herring to distract and it's really a fake, but I dont think so. it weights 26.7 g, sizes correctly and rings like silver. maybe a contemporary fake? you'll see what I mean in a second.

anyways, the images:

image
image

said almost too clean hole.
image

I mean, if it was holed a long time ago, it was meant to be hung someplace or worn, but check out the detail, this thing was not hanging on a barn like some colonial holed coins were. so, why would someone hole a near unc coin and then protect it over it's lifespan, otherwise, from wear?

WONDERFUL detail in places. UNCY almost. I fell in love the the quality of the sun-face.
image

image

image

lovely die cracks. is there a shadow of an undertype?
image


the reverse, much worse off than the obv. someone really rubbed this up. denoting the color the coin, this isn't honest wear. I saw cleaned and lightly retoning in spots.

image

image

Now, check this. die cracks around the peripheral are ok, but is this another crack around the tree? I know cast coins can have raised imperfections from the device/field transfer. I dont know why this "crack" bothers me.
image


anyway, for me the price was right (round 70) to have something in my junque with this design, so it's staying with me, but I just want to know if someone knows I'm looking at a fake, otherwise, I cant get my head around the GREAT detail but harsh surfaces (one side only) and a hole which doesn't make sense.

you, the jury, have the case now. if nothing else this gave me a chance to use my camera!

Comments

  • SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭✭
    but I just want to know if someone knows I'm looking at a fake



    You are definitely looking at a fake, but I will reimburse the $70 and take it off your hands. image
    Dimitri



    myEbay



    DPOTD 3
  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    I agree, absolutely fake! For your sins, we will allow you to host a giveaway. I'm in!

    imageimageimage
    .....GOD
    image

    "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9

    "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5

    "For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
  • HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭
    holdon...is that sarcasm? what's the giveaway that makes this a fake? to me it's not obvious but I dont know the issue like the back of my hand image

  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    We likey and we wanty!! We thinky not fakey.

    imageimageimage
    .....GOD
    image

    "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9

    "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5

    "For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
  • HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭


    << <i>We likey and we wanty!! We thinky not fakey.

    imageimageimage >>



    finally found someone to explain things in terms I understand image
Sign In or Register to comment.