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does anybody know what this is?
coinman420
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it has two dials and seems to tell what time it is in different locations. any info would help. not sure what it is made of or how old. thanks.
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Edited to add: For synchronized prayer among loved ones/mates? That is an old practice.
Eric
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Eric
The "PM" side is clearly lined up, but the "AM" side is not. So you can't read the location on the AM side. If both wheels were lined up properly, it would be easier to confirm.
Also, this object may be old enough to predate daylight savings time. So the readings might be off an hour in the southern hemisphere.
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<< <i>Also, this object may be old enough to predate daylight savings time. So the readings might be off an hour in the southern hemisphere. >>
I would be surprised if that predated DST (what, 1895?)! I don't think so.
Eric
I have never seen anything like it.
TD
<< <i>I think the OP is on the right track. Looks like some sort of time zone converter.
The "PM" side is clearly lined up, but the "AM" side is not. So you can't read the location on the AM side. If both wheels were lined up properly, it would be easier to confirm.
Also, this object may be old enough to predate daylight savings time. So the readings might be off an hour in the southern hemisphere. >>
that dial did not turn freely and it is not my thingy so did not want to force it. it belongs to my daughters` boyfriend. i believe it was given to him by his grandfather.
<< <i>Do any of the tabs on the edge turn the interior disc?
I have never seen anything like it.
TD >>
yes one for obverse and one for reverse. one moves freely and the other does not move. didn`t want to force it and break something.
Otherwise, (before DST) the time differences between time zones would have been fixed and it could have been done on a single disk.
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However, as a lifelong Catholic I know of no significance (to us) of when a particular Mass is conducted, other than special occasions such as the Midnight Mass on Christmas Eve or the Mass at Dawn on Easter morning, and that time varies with the season. If you were in Alaska at 10 AM it did not matter that some mass was being held right that moment in New England.
Just a WAG here...perhaps it was some missionary society that tried to hold a Mass at the same moment all around the world no matter what time zone the person holding it was in.
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<< <i>Do any of the tabs on the edge turn the interior disc?
I have never seen anything like it.
TD >>
yes one for obverse and one for reverse. one moves freely and the other does not move. didn`t want to force it and break something. >>
Could you carefully move the one that turns freely and give us some more images?
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<< <i>If you read the obverse inscription around starting at 12:30 it ends with "....THE MASS IN" followed by the opening. Those are probably place names in there, such as "NEW ENGLAND NEW YORK" etc. The other side could represent where the holder was at the time.
However, as a lifelong Catholic I know of no significance (to us) of when a particular Mass is conducted, other than special occasions such as the Midnight Mass on Christmas Eve or the Mass at Dawn on Easter morning, and that time varies with the season. If you were in Alaska at 10 AM it did not matter that some mass was being held right that moment in New England.
Just a WAG here...perhaps it was some missionary society that tried to hold a Mass at the same moment all around the world no matter what time zone the person holding it was in. >>
i think if i could move the frozen disc and read it it may make sense. just curious as to what it is. just thought it was very unique and thought i would share.
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<< <i>Do any of the tabs on the edge turn the interior disc?
I have never seen anything like it.
TD >>
yes one for obverse and one for reverse. one moves freely and the other does not move. didn`t want to force it and break something. >>
Could you carefully move the one that turns freely and give us some more images? >>
i`ll see if i can get more pics and post them.
This is called an "obsecratio intentia" or something very similar. It is used when a Catholic priest is giving a special intention mass for a departed loved one and a family member in another part of the country can pray for the deceased at the same time as the mass is being said.
They are also used for a novena, which are special supplication prayers said at the same time for nine consecutive days by one or more people. My great grandmother gave my mother a very similar one in silver which was dated 1898. Sorry I dont have a picture. It is of nominal value but a still very interesting Catholic artifact.
Eric
I am pretty pleased with my first guess
Eric