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After a long night at the Toronto airport and a rush hour cab ride through New York, I'm finally at Waldorf. It appears that the bourse opens at 2 for the early birds, so I took the time to view some lots in the upcoming Stacks sale. A few interesting pieces, like the cast Chihuahua 8 reales with an unusual host date of 1805 and no correction to the original mint mark, nice early Durango and Zacatecas pieces (1812 and 1810), and a first struck example of a Supreme National Council 8 reales. Looked through some larger lots from Mexico, as well. Found an unattributed overdate in one of the lots and a plated counterfeit in another.
Now hanging out in the lobby, drinking an $8 latte. Starbucks here has the same pricing structure as the one in the Louvre. I don't see myself enjoying the cuisine at the Waldorf much, since I do want to be able to afford some coins on this trip.
More to come...
Now hanging out in the lobby, drinking an $8 latte. Starbucks here has the same pricing structure as the one in the Louvre. I don't see myself enjoying the cuisine at the Waldorf much, since I do want to be able to afford some coins on this trip.
More to come...
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I had a $145 breakfast for 3 once at the Waldorf and after that we went to the deli two blocks away (on the same side as the Waldorf) and had breakfast. It was much cheaper
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<< <i>TwoK:
I had a $145 breakfast for 3 once at the Waldorf and after that we went to the deli two blocks away (on the same side as the Waldorf) and had breakfast. It was much cheaper
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It looks like I'll miss their famous Sunday brunch ($95). I don't know if I'll be able to cope...
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How is the mood at the show?
Are people upbeat and buying?
Sure wish I could get the latest Spink catalogue.
Enjoy yourself!
Well, just Love coins, period.
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Met-up with JCMHouston in the afternoon and then uncorked a couple of bottles of Pinot Noir from Niagara with some nicely aged Parmesan cheese with Andy (MrEureka). He's doing his thing at the first Baldwins session, after which we're going to hit the town for a place to eat with a couple of German dealers.
Looking forward to the breakfast tomorrow with the forumites. Hope I wake up for it, since I'm now going on about 38 hours of no sleep and a happy mix of nicotine and caffeine and the night is still young
So, day 1 totals: sold 3 coins, bought 1 and it's getting exchanged tomorrow.
Now... Should I take my camera with us into the city?
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Yes, take your camera.
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Met-up for breakfast with Jeff, Zohar, William (FilthyBroke) and his son, and CarlosJ. After coffee we hit the bourse. It is packed today. Lots of action on the floor.
Stopped by Mike's table and ended-up trading in the 1782 I bought from him yesterday plus some cash for a nice AU example of a 1763/2 Pillar with some light toning. There are a few small spots of green on the reverse, so I already submitted the coin to NCS for some targeted spot removal. I specifically stated on the submission form to retain the toning and only treat the spots. Hope it doesnt come back dipped-out.
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It was really great to meet all the forumites at the show, I really enjoyed that part of the trip the most.
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Finally, the magic word!
Glad you liked it guys. There's no other show like NYINC, especially combined with a couple of Manhattans at the bar downstairs. No disrespect to CICF Larry.
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<< <i> Pics to come after i get back home.
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Glad you liked it guys. There's no other show like NYINC, especially combined with a couple of Manhattans at the bar downstairs. No disrespect to CICF Larry.
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I did find three interesting medals from one my most reliable dealers and Berman had an unexpected find.
Otherwise, though, pretty mundane. One dealer had a fantastic Carlos IV medal, but I was not quite willing to pay the price.
There was another dealer with some nice stuff, but again, I did not feel comfortable with with the prices that he was asking.
I probably will go back tomorrow and maybe search for Salzburg thalers and the like, introduced to me by Zohar.
If you guys don't mind revealing sources, any recommendations?
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I will come in tomorrow. Harasha let's try and meet and I can assist your endeavors. PM me your phone number and I will call you when there.
Brent - hope to see you back on the forum soon. I hope you settle in quickly in TX.
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Nice to add some faces to members - Roman and Jeff. I regret that we didn't take the time for a group photo. Roman, Jeff, and Bob had some very pretty specimens that they shared. We attempted to go to Oscars for lunch but they were closed for renovations - decided to go to Starbucks for sugar and caffeine instead.
Very little quality Canadian material today. I bought the nicest piece I saw, a 1931 25c in a PCGS 64 holder. Only 36 holes left to fill in my decimal Registry set. I also picked up a few Colonial tokens as trading fodder.
Checked out the Canadian material in the Stack's auction. The 1898 set of British Columbia gold 1/2D and 1D coins looked pretty cool. Whomever wins that set should be pleased. The 2 PCGS MS66 silver dollars (1935/1936) do not look like their photos in the catalogues - the colors are there but not vibrant. I have to say the photos are juiced and the toning actually present hide some bag marks. I will not be bidding on these.
As noted in another thread, PCGS was not taking submissions. When I passed teir table is was vacant, only fliers and forms and some trinkets were there. NOTE to PCGS: I think you missed an oppurtunity this year. Your competitor was very busy.
There were more ancients and medals dealers this year than in previous years. And Charles Davies did not have his usual enormous book inventory.
Already looking forward to next year! Which is going to be the 2nd weekend because New Years Day is on a Tuesday.
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<< <i>Did anyone happen to stop by the Goldberg's table and take a look?
Gary, I looked through one of the coolest stacks of slabbed Palestine coins at the Goldberg table today
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After last nights fiasco at the auction, decided not to sit in the room for the crowns portion of Stacks today, so put my bids in online and just going to let them ride.
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<< <i>Did anyone happen to stop by the Goldberg's table and take a look?
Gary, I looked through one of the coolest stacks of slabbed Palestine coins at the Goldberg table today
Thanks Roman, I'm glad SOMEONE noticed! You're right, IT IS a shame but, health and a few other factors will not allow me to enjoy the recent grading and registry (and upgrading) of this 25 year endeavor. I hope there were others who got to enjoy them at NYINC as well. I'm really proud of my accomplishment!
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No new purchases for me, but I did end up selling pretty much everything I came here with. One coin remains, but I will do a giveaway on the forums instead when I come home. It definitely has the coolness factor associated with it, but it also looks like someone took a wire brush to it. Problem free it's a $400+ coin. It's an 1813/2 Guadalajara 8 reales. What's cool about it, other than the mere fact it's an early war of independence issue, is that it was struck on a cast planchet and it also has the early Guadalajara edge design, which was slightly different from the usual circle and square colonial pattern, replacing circles with flowers.
Last thing before flying home tomorrow morning is the auction tonight. I think I'm still going to watch the lots I put absentee bids on and might potentially go higher due to the good amount of sales I did today.
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Well, today certainly was an improvement over Friday.
Started off by meeting Zohar. You have no idea (or maybe you do) how great it is to talk to someone about one's hobby. I know no one who has a similar interest, at work or after work.
We went around to various dealers and shared some sorts on them and their stock. Zohar made some great points, which is one of the reasons why collectors need someone to bounce their thoughts.
Anyway, back to actual items. I originally went to the show looking for British coronation medals, medals featuring horses, medals with a Madonna motif and Salzburg thalers (the first and the last I blame on two members of the forum). I really found nothing, at least which called to me. You know that feeling. There is something about an item that moves your numismatic soul. Actually, Karl Stephens had a George III coronation medal, but no where near the condition I would want.
However, while wandering around, three times I heard that soft voice calling me, "Make me yours."
The first item was an incredibly detailed baptism medal, sold to me by a dealer introduced by Zohar.
The second item, though not a medal, was a thaler of Brunswick et al featuring a horse. Actually, I knew that these thalers existed, but I never saw a real one. It was love at first sight.
Finally, a complete surprise, was the spotting of a Genoese Scudo. Again, not a medal, but a real nice depiction of a Madonna.
I have a whole bunch of imaging to do now and I will post once imaged.
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So you picked up the baptisimal medal! If its the one I am thinking about its a wonderful piece.
Looking forward to the images!
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<< <i>I was surprised by how many cleaned and problem coins were being sold in that one smaller room(not the mail large room). >>
Keep in mind that not all dealers are the same. While a lot had gem pieces (for gem prices, in most cases), some did target less collectors that did not need to have the best grade available or just don't have as much to spend. From what I saw, those dealers, while selling problem coins, did not ask for a lot for them.
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<< <i>I was surprised by how many cleaned and problem coins were being sold in that one smaller room(not the mail large room). >>
Keep in mind that not all dealers are the same. While a lot had gem pieces (for gem prices, in most cases), some did target less collectors that did not need to have the best grade available or just don't have as much to spend. From what I saw, those dealers, while selling problem coins, did not ask for a lot for them. >>
Some did and thats what surprised me. Raw cleaned coins for slabbed coin money. One dealer for example had a cleaned XF Caballito short ray for 250, and not only was it cleaned and XF, it was a long ray!
Gary maybe we'll meet up at CICF this year - I did not have an opportunity to see what Goldberg's has - but like Roman mentioned ditto and I do congratulate you on a 25yr endeavor too..you did good.
I suppose you meant you are having some of the pieces re-graded, and if so I wish you luck.
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I went 2/2 with Heritage; two gem talers (one Hogmouth, and one Freibourg 4Fr). I picked up two attractively toned German talers in 63, one ex-Eliasberg. I also picked up two Italian silver crown-sized coins: Firenze 10 paoli and a piastra from the Papal States. At CNG, a gorgeous Teutonic taler on Friday, and two Anglo Saxon silver minors on Saturday.
The icing on the cake? I went to Luke's Lobster Shack in the East Village and ate two rolls (1 lobster, 1 crab).
Seriously, though, I've no clue how I'm going to pay off this stuff.
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I fought what seemed like a pretty heavy crowd for the first couple of hours at the show, to the point that some of the more interesting tables were nearly impossible to get a good look at. So for a breather I took my son and headed out to see a museum (as I had promised him). He's not really into coins yet, but couldn't pass on a trip to NYC. After a nice walk through the MOMA, I got back to the show and spent the evening just browsing the huge selections.
I didn't find much that first day, so I decided to check back in Saturday morning before I had to leave. The crowd must not have been in full force at opening time, so I had much better luck. I had some nice conversations with a couple of dealers I hadn't met before, and had time to sit and look things over more thoroughly. I would call it a great success, and a trip well worth the time.
Again, what a nice treat to meet Jeff, Zohar, Roman, and CarlosJ! I hope you all have a great time there, I wish now that I could have stayed a little longer.
My evening ended with a Ponterio win. I picked up a pleasantly toned 1745 pillar in MS61. I'll post coins pics once I get everything in-hand.
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This is the pillar I picked-up @ Ponterio for my type set.
Here are the first shots of the AU58 I picked-up from the folks @ Mexican Coin Company. Amazing booming luster on the reverse. I'll play with lighting this week to see if I can show the luster.
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There were also 3 early 17th Century Royals on display!
The War of Independence section of the preview was also pretty cool. Among various Zacatecas and Vargas pieces, there was a wonderful coin I was seeing "live" for the first time since I've started to collect W4I in 2006 - an authentic 1811 Real Del Catorce (San Luis Potosi) 8 Reales.
Another neat thing I saw in the collection was a crude barbaric counterfeit 8 Escudos in gold nested next to authentic examples. It was fun seeing that contrast in design right next to each other.
Big THANK YOU to Andy Lustig for "making" me go
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Thanx
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Just checked with NCS and it appears they were able to remove a few small spots of PVC on the 1763/2 MF 8 Reales I bought from Mike Dunigan without touching any of the toning. I hope that's true and will post my observations and pictures once I receive it sometime next week. NGC gave it an AU58 grade, which I agree with 100%. The coin had just a hint of wear with fantastic luster and light toning throughout.
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<< <i>I think there was a lot of modern China of all shapes and sizes. There were a couple of dealers there that modern China is all they do, but they were spread out through the different rooms. It also seemed very expensive for the few pieces I saw a price on. >>
Go figure. I've read that one of the modern gold pandas, not sure of the denomination and/or year, realized a 6 figure amount in the Hong Kong auction, because its serial number was 000001.
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<< <i>Way to go Roman!
<< <i>I think there was a lot of modern China of all shapes and sizes. There were a couple of dealers there that modern China is all they do, but they were spread out through the different rooms. It also seemed very expensive for the few pieces I saw a price on. >>
Go figure. I've read that one of the modern gold pandas, not sure of the denomination and/or year, realized a 6 figure amount in the Hong Kong auction, because its serial number was 000001.
A "real" First Strike™!!!!! Don't lose that COA, though.
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<< <i>Just checked with NCS and it appears they were able to remove a few small spots of PVC on the 1763/2 MF 8 Reales I bought from Mike Dunigan without touching any of the toning. I hope that's true and will post my observations and pictures once I receive it sometime next week. NGC gave it an AU58 grade, which I agree with 100%. The coin had just a hint of wear with fantastic luster and light toning throughout. >>
Uh-oh. They shipped the coin on the 12th and tracking still shows it at the Sarasota sorting facility. I'm hoping it's just a tracking issue, but looking at canadapost site, it appears this tracking number hasn't crossed the border into Canada yet.
Yikes. Fingers crossed that it's not lost in the great big black hole of the US Post Office.
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<< <i>Hi Roman, According to notes specified in your account, your NYINC order was left at our New York office for pick up. It did not come back to our Irvine office for shipment. Please contact our New York office to arrange a pick up time. >>
*smack face*
I wonder how long they would've waited before trying to notify me.
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