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AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
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I have been outbid on everything, and everything is going for well above what I thought it would.
I guess its a good sign for the coin market but wow its frustrating!

Anyone else in the same boat?
AJ
All coins kept in bank vaults.
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SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
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  • BGBG Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    0 for 3.
  • SmEagle1795SmEagle1795 Posts: 2,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm 4/10 at the moment but within inches of being outbid on everything. Some that I'm interested in are still lower than I expected while others are way above where I thought they'd be.

    And just when I thought I was getting good at predicting these... image

    The spread, diversity, and quality of this auction are truly impressive, and I'm sure it's causing quite a few people to come out of the woodwork.
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  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There are a few that I am interested in. There is one that I really want that is over my budget and well above PCGS guide. I put in a very strong bid anyway which means that I am not seriously bidding on the others. I have the winning bid currently but I still have to go through Live bidding. Most likely I will end up with none of themimage
  • howardshowards Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭
    The one coin I bid on in early December I won for much less than I thought I'd have to pay.
    Howard
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  • DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Same boat here. image
    When in doubt, don't.
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Completely. I was willing to obliterate the record price for a coin of interest and was subsequently obliterated myself. image
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,618 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I signed in, looked and felt poorer. That's enough, thanks.

    ``https://ebay.us/m/KxolR5

  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623 ✭


    << <i>Completely. I was willing to obliterate the record price for a coin of interest and was subsequently obliterated myself. image >>



    Did you go after that great looking 66 10$ Lib in the OGH little while ago, even I thought that was a under-graded gem and I avoid the yellow stuff mostly.
  • kazkaz Posts: 9,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    outbid on 1, at my max on another, "comfortably" ahead on a third.
  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,718 ✭✭✭✭✭
    0/2, and they weren't power coins. Leaves me more powder for the bourse.
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  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭
    Only 1 bid in. It is still standing, but all it takes is one more increment and I am gone.
    Give Blood (Red Bags) & Platelets (Yellow Bags)!
  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,111 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Dukor Saints are going for stupid money compared to recent auction results. Yeah, the quality is good, but there appears to be "Dukor fever" or the beginning of a boost in the market. Will be interesting to see the Legend market report in a week or so.
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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275 ✭
    I'm so far still ahead on 3 of my coins, of which I would like to get two of them - the expensive and the non-expensive, not the non-expensive and non-expensive ones!
  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,700 ✭✭✭✭✭
    When the billionaires speak the coin market listens.


    How is dreck doing?image
    All glory is fleeting.
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    I am going to lot viewing later this morning - before dealer set up.
    We may go to a few live sessions - but I have yet to place any Internet
    bids.

    One coin I wanted is already close to my max, but two others are languishing. image
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    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
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  • earlyAurumearlyAurum Posts: 750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The single coin on my list hasn't been bid up yet. So, I have a shot. I am waiting for the live auction. I give myself a 25% chance of winning the lot. Most other lots of interest are bid beyond what I would pay.
  • FrankiefanaticFrankiefanatic Posts: 325
    Well I went after 4 to complete a set I was/am working on- and like a good football game- I went 4 and out....image


  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well I went after 4 to complete a set I was/am working on- and like a good football game- I went 4 and out....image >>



    You mean 3 and out image
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • FrankiefanaticFrankiefanatic Posts: 325


    << <i>

    << <i>Well I went after 4 to complete a set I was/am working on- and like a good football game- I went 4 and out....image >>



    You mean 3 and out image >>



    no I tried to go for the 1st down with a yard to go- got sacked on 50 bucks behind the line..
  • BaseballAbsBaseballAbs Posts: 2,621 ✭
    Yes, image
    Winner of the "You Suck!" award March 17, 2010 by LanLord, doh, 123cents and Bear.
  • oldhobooldhobo Posts: 196
    1 for 9 right now and I bid what I think is strong. The 1 I'm currently the highest bidder is way above price guides.
    ">www.NumisProfessional.com
  • LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭
    Not yet, but I am sure I will. image
  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 4,082 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Not me. Pretty much stopped bidding at Heritage awhile ago...
  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    The bids seem to be pretty high on what I am after.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • g048406g048406 Posts: 247
    I barely even bother with Heritage anymore ( I buy 1 or 2 in their auctions) . I can usually buy the same coins at local shows or on ebay for less.
  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I have been outbid on everything, and everything is going for well above what I thought it would.
    I guess its a good sign for the coin market but wow its frustrating!

    AJ >>



    No. All it says is that as usual, there is quite a bit of nice material at FUN, and that people make strong bids for this material. This may carry over into other areas, as collectors bring serious money to FUN. I have never won a single coin at a FUN auction.
    "Vou invadir o Nordeste,
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  • SurfWVaSurfWVa Posts: 33
    I bid strong on several coins and I'm only winning one of them.
  • AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,370 ✭✭✭✭
    Wreath cents went sky high!
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
    PCGS Registries
    Box of 20
    SeaEagleCoins: 11/14/54-4/5/12. Miss you Larry!
  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,194 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anyone else notice a lot of coins are going unsold?
  • OnlyGoldIsMoneyOnlyGoldIsMoney Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My strong bid is still in the lead for the one Lib $2.50 I want. That can easily change with over a day to go.
    NO END IN SIGHT LIB $2.50'S CAC ONLY
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  • LogPotatoLogPotato Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭✭
    is someone really going to pay 20k+ for a 1999 silver eagle?
  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So... I had the high internet bid when they ended internet bidding on a coin yesterday. This morning my high bid still stood. This afternoon I see that I was outbid even though Live is not up to this coin yet (Session 2 tonight). How did I get outbid? Can phone/mail bids still be accepted after they close the internet bidding? Not sure I want to go any higher on this one but still thinking about it...
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>So... I had the high internet bid when they ended internet bidding on a coin yesterday. This morning my high bid still stood. This afternoon I see that I was outbid even though Live is not up to this coin yet (Session 2 tonight). How did I get outbid? Can phone/mail bids still be accepted after they close the internet bidding? Not sure I want to go any higher on this one but still thinking about it... >>


    Mail bids, in person bids, and/or legacy member bids could have snuffed you out.
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • spendabuckeyespendabuckeye Posts: 15
    it is happening just as you describe. I had a piece that was going to be the most i ever bought a coin (proof cam seated dollar) and it will sell for more than any other has before. It may be time to sell my stuff if this is where prices are.
    jeff
  • 2ndCharter2ndCharter Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Can phone/mail bids still be accepted after they close the internet bidding?

    Legacy clients can bid via the Internet until one hour before the Floor session starts.

    Member ANA, SPMC, SCNA, FUN, CONECA

  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 5,001 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Can phone/mail bids still be accepted after they close the internet bidding?

    Legacy clients can bid via the Internet until one hour before the Floor session starts.


    Mail bids, in person bids, and/or legacy member bids could have snuffed you out. >>





    Thanks for the replies, obviously I did not realize this until after I was outbid.image
  • mozinmozin Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭
    I was high bidder going into the live bid on two lots. Lost one at $1400, with my max $1355 bid. This one sold for $1323 including the juice four years ago, when I was underbidder by $40. Good thing I was not in love with this coin. Some Heritage Live bidder won it.

    Other lot went for $2600 bid, my max bid $2555. PCGS suggested retail was $2600, which is 15% below what this one went for today. The floor bidder must have really like the looks of this coin.
    I collect Capped Bust series by variety in PCGS AU/MS grades.
  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I know it smacks of conspiracy but are all these fabulous prices real
    Or are some being bought back by consignors ?
    I don't have a dog in this fight but it just seems a strange
    pattern; in fact offerings in my darkside area were rather scant.
    In the past when I wanted something bad enough I bid crazy and generally & mysteriously got my coins at or very near max bid.

    And I am not a "hater", just a bit curious munching popcorn watching the game. I actually LIKE Hertage, just to be clear, but kind of view them as a shark in the pond - big, beautiful and dangerous. Likely will use them when it's time to sell in fact.
    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • SurfWVaSurfWVa Posts: 33


    << <i>In the past when I wanted something bad enough I bid crazy and generally & mysteriously got my coins at or very near max bid. >>



    Had this happen to me in a Heritage auction last year. I bid way over price guide and none of the under bidders were even close when the Internet bidding closed, yet the live bidding opened and closed right at my high bid. Seemed kind of odd to me because my high bid wasn't a number that could be figured out in any rational way (it wasn't a round number or a multiple of any of the price guides), but I was prepared to shell out what I bid so I didn't really worry about it.
  • BGBG Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Actually, I'm 1 for 4. image

    I'm winning the cheapest lot.
  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275 ✭
    Losing my most expensive lot image

    Still have 2 cheapies left - I might win 1 of those!
  • ParkieCollectorParkieCollector Posts: 96 ✭✭
    IMHO it's money fleeing the stock and bond markets looking for a store of value.

  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anyone else getting destroyed in Heritage?

    That's not the definition of getting destroyed. You're probably lucky to have been shut out.
    Everybody's a "winner" at auction regardless of the price paid.........well, at least until they try to resell the items. That's when the big losers finally get identified.
    And in a major auction with thousands of lots, there will be many more losers than winners.

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623 ✭
    I am a winner, 1 for 1 but I kept it modest with my hopes
  • sonoranmonsoonsonoranmonsoon Posts: 2,078 ✭✭
    I noticed the 1794 dollars brought in very strong numbers. Still have my eye on some items, but bids are definately strong.
  • DD Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭
    I have a bid on one lot and I'll let you know when I lose image.

    -D
    "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."

    -Aristotle

    Dum loquimur fugerit invida aetas. Carpe diem quam minimum credula postero.

    -Horace
  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Okay, I am rallying again. image
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
  • BajajimBajajim Posts: 529 ✭


    << <i>Okay, I am rallying again. image >>



    Save some strength for the game on Sunday image

    btw, I am 0/4 so far
  • pcgs69pcgs69 Posts: 4,359 ✭✭✭✭
    I got distroyed alright... distroyed on a coin I sold in the last Heritage auction. I guess the coin I sold wasn't part of this Heritage bull market

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