Error Large Cent and Indian Cent

Smittys

Sold them but they returned ....
anyway to tell the date on the large cent ?

LanceNewmanOCC

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oh for the love of gawd, why oh why did someone drill that large cent ><

to tell the date is probable but time consuming

the indian looks neat as well
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MikeInFL

Not to be a contrarian, but would say it is improbable to determine the date on that late-date large cent. I see no distinguishing marks that would enable attribution -- and the missing date is a huge disadvantage. But who knows -- Grellman can do miracles sometimes.

LanceNewmanOCC

<< <i>Not to be a contrarian, but would say it is improbable to determine the date on that late-date large cent. >>



i am not saying it is possible but with that star over the coronet that far from the tip that eliminates probably 90% of late dates based on my limited experience attributing them

then I figure if in fact it does actually eliminate that many just because of that one star placement then it may be possible based on the remaining stars in conjunction with their reed position to deduct a high probability of correct attribution.

but i am still not certain and have no desire to find out due to the time it would take me due to my limited attributions of late dates, also my database is not complete

anyone up for the challenge?

i'd love to actually know if it can be done or not so I know to even waste time attempting it in the future or not.
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LoveMyLiberty

Looks to me that the only apparent feature of the OP coin is it's
a mature head large cent. I see no features that would identify
the specific year. It does appear to have a weak strike on the
stars shown & the upper part of the crown.

This type of mature head large cent was produced for some
varieties of 1843 and all following years through 1857.

MikeInFL

<< <i>i am not saying it is possible but with that star over the coronet that far from the tip that eliminates probably 90% of late dates based on my limited experience attributing them >>



Huh?

ProofCoins

That hole in the large cent puts a sick feeling in my tummy...ugh

STONE

So have you tried contacting LordMarcovan or HoledAndCreative to see if they are interested in either?!?

lkeigwin

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<< <i>i am not saying it is possible but with that star over the coronet that far from the tip that eliminates probably 90% of late dates based on my limited experience attributing them >>



Huh? >>

Don't most all of the 1843-1857 large cents have star placement, relative to the coronet, in the same manner?
Lance.

Broadstruck

<< <i>That hole in the large cent puts a sick feeling in my tummy...ugh >>



No one collected errors back then so it's quite common to see them having been holed or engraved.

Still very desirable being that far off center.

fivecents

Imagine the comments you would get wearing it around your neck to all the coin shows.

Neat errors Smitty.

2Old2GrowUp

Nice 1800's errors that large cent is super cool.

seanq

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<< <i>That hole in the large cent puts a sick feeling in my tummy...ugh >>



No one collected errors back then so it's quite common to see them having been holed or engraved.

Still very desirable being that far off center. >>




I was going to make a similar observation, I've also seen many off-center large cents and Indian cents with holes in the unstruck area. To me it contributes to the history of the coin and I don't find it distracting at all.


Sean Reynolds

Broadstruck

<< <i>I was going to make a similar observation, I've also seen many off-center large cents and Indian cents with holes in the unstruck area. To me it contributes to the history of the coin and I don't find it distracting at all. >>



I'd much rather have a holded O/C LG then on O/C that has been defaced with the E in "CENT" converted to a U... As I've seen a few of these and that's way more sicking.

LanceNewmanOCC

<< <i> on O/C that has been defaced with the E in "CENT" converted to a U... As I've seen a few of these and that's way more sicking. >>



i concur

they do nothing for me in the least and i've seen far too many

RunnersDad

That is a very nice off center Large Cent! You don't see them too often, and hole or not it is very attractive to me.

DorkGirl

ricko

Neat off center cent... and oh yeah.. I have one of those converted cents as well....Cheers, RickO

lordmarcovan

<< <i>oh for the love of gawd, why oh why did someone drill that large cent >>

Simple. It was a curiosity even in its own day, and somebody kept it as a conversation piece. There were no slabs and such in the mid-1800s. Besides, it was just an "odd looking penny" to them. Some of the old German and Austrian square "klippe" coins were often holed in one corner for similar reasons.



<< <i>So have you tried contacting LordMarcovan or HoledAndCreative to see if they are interested in either?!? >>

Not me, he didn't. I know I'd be delighted to hang that on the Holey Coin Vest. There are only two problems, though. One is that I prefer dated pieces on there (but I'd probably make an exception in this case). The other is my usual peasant-like poverty situation. I'll bet that's a three figure item, eh? If by some rare chance it could be made a high two-figure item (or if there were some barter involved), I'd be all over it, but I suspect I'm dreamin' there. You might try H&C. I think he's got slightly deeper pockets than I do, if his holey collection is any indicator.

Very, very cool piece.