Question About Details Grade Crossover

jfloomis3

Question-

I sent in 1912 $2.5 Indian to PCGS a while back, but got a no grade/refund. I then sent it in to NGC, and got an XF Details grade (removed from jewelry). I am wondering if I can send it back to PCGS to have it put in a PCGS slab.

I know it sounds like a waste of money to have this done, but I just hate how all of the other coins are PCGS but one is NGC. The NGC holder is bigger than the rest, so the lid never fits on the blue box and it makes me angry!

Bottom line- Will PCGS crossover a NGC details grade?

Thanks!

Jim

STONE

I'm fairly certain you can cross-over NGC Problem-Coins to PCGS if you say 'cross at any grade'

CarsonCityGold

I'm pretty sure you would need to write "genuine" in the minimum grade column (not "cross at any grade").

TheBigB

<< <i>Question-

I sent in 1912 $2.5 Indian to PCGS a while back, but got a no grade/refund. >>



If you got a refund, it sounds like they had a problem authenticating the coin.

In my opinion it is not worth the effort.

MilkmanDan

<< <i>I'm pretty sure you would need to write "genuine" in the minimum grade column (not "cross at any grade"). >>



This is correct. "Any grade" will cross only if it grades, whereas "genuine" will cross no matter what, as long as the coin is genuine. Now here's the question, how do they determine the coin is genuine if its in a NGC slab, without breaking it out?

I'm thinking you'll likely just get it back with the same response you originally got from PCGS.

lkeigwin

It might work. PCGS will take another look at the coin, inside the NGC holder, which may encourage them to agree it is authentic. What happened in the past will not be remembered (it is unlikely it was SecurePlus scanned).

If it means that much to you, go for it. But I agree with the others...it's probably not worth it. Get an NGC box and all the slabs will fit. Or sell it and buy a problem-free PCGS one. The 1912 quarter eagle is not very expensive in modest grades.
Lance.

RYK

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<< <i>Question-

I sent in 1912 $2.5 Indian to PCGS a while back, but got a no grade/refund. >>



If you got a refund, it sounds like they had a problem authenticating the coin.

In my opinion it is not worth the effort. >>


I agree. Ditch the coin, unless it is an heirloom or has sentimental value, and purchase your replacement already holdered.

LanceNewmanOCC

<< <i>(it is unlikely it was SecurePlus scanned) >>



on that subject does sending in for secure plus guarantee authentication? no questionables. or is it just as risky since if memory serves there are no details/genuine secure plus holders. either it grades or is not slabbed? but maybe the body bag for secure plus if for non-slabbed coins includes the blue insert sticker with genuine labeled?

i ask for the purpose of other coins and for those reading to learn a method for submissions if a coin has questionable authenticity.

i know ngc has that metallurgic analysis but if memory serves, it is a tad costly.
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lkeigwin

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<< <i>(it is unlikely it was SecurePlus scanned) >>



on that subject does sending in for secure plus guarantee authentication? no questionables. or is it just as risky since if memory serves there are no details/genuine secure plus holders. either it grades or is not slabbed?. >>

As far as I know SP does scanning and sniffing. It does not assist with grading or authentication. Surely there are corner cases.
Lance.

LanceNewmanOCC

<< <i>Surely there are corner cases. >>



what are those?

fivecents

<< <i>The NGC holder is bigger than the rest, so the lid never fits on the blue box and it makes me angry! >>

That is wise marketing by PCGS.
Just buy a PCGS graded 1912 $2.5 and avoid the stress.