Help needed to report counterfeit 1864-CC dollar to eBay
RichieURich
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Here is the coin: 1864-CC dollar
Seller has been informed, his responses were: "Then don't bid."
and when told eBay had been notified, and again told his coin was counterfeit and why (CC Mint didn't open until 1870): "whatever it ends in 7 hours"
Suggestions?
Seller has been informed, his responses were: "Then don't bid."
and when told eBay had been notified, and again told his coin was counterfeit and why (CC Mint didn't open until 1870): "whatever it ends in 7 hours"
Suggestions?
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Did he change the listing? It doesn't say CC, and says mint: Philly.
......I collect old stuff......
<< <i>Here is the coin: 1864-CC dollar
Seller has been informed, his responses were: "Then don't bid."
and when told eBay had been notified, and again told his coin was counterfeit and why (CC Mint didn't open until 1870): "whatever it ends in 7 hours"
Suggestions? >>
The problem is that right now, there is nothing in the listing that mentions Carson City.
Mint Location: Philadelphia
So anyone wanting to report the item, there is nothing to report it for.
IN GOD WE TRUST" above the eagle.
Reported.
type2,CCHunter.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
<< <i>Listing has been removed. >>
Sweet! Way to go everyone.
<< <i>To take a slightly contrarian position, I would not have much sympathy for anyone that paid big bux for a 1864-CC dollar. >>
So in other words, there's no reason to stand up and speak out against fraud, or to give potential bidders that are less knowledgeable than we are the courtesy of using our knowledge and experience in a way that helps protects them? Thank heavens the Federal Trade Commission and Consumer Product Safety Commission don't follow your philosophy.
<< <i>To take a slightly contrarian position, I would not have much sympathy for anyone that paid big bux for a 1864-CC dollar. >>
What is the quote about the best way for evil to triumph is for people of good will to do nothing?
Courtesy of Google and Wikipedia:
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke)
<< <i>Sure there is. The blurry photo shows a CC mintmark... which didn't exist in 1864. >>
The pics are too blurry to distinguish what, if any, mint mark may be on the coin.
Again, nothing to report it for.
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<< <i>Listing has been removed. >>
Sweet! Way to go everyone. >>
Yes way to go everyone, censorship at it's worse.
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<< <i>Listing has been removed. >>
Sweet! Way to go everyone. >>
Yes way to go everyone, censorship at it's worse. >>
Uh...was it your auction?
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<< <i>Listing has been removed. >>
Sweet! Way to go everyone. >>
Yes way to go everyone, censorship at it's worse. >>
Uh...was it your auction? >>
The point is not whether it was or wasn't.
The point is there was nothing wrong with the listing, and only guess work, albeit terrible guess work, of what may or may not have been on either side of the coin.
Nothing but wild imaginations on the part of members of this forum who got the listing removed.
Like I said, censorship at it's worse!
It takes about 10 reports to get an ad on Craigslist pulled.
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<< <i>Listing has been removed. >>
Sweet! Way to go everyone. >>
Yes way to go everyone, censorship at it's worse. >>
Uh...was it your auction? >>
The point is not whether it was or wasn't.
The point is there was nothing wrong with the listing, and only guess work, albeit terrible guess work, of what may or may not have been on either side of the coin.
Nothing but wild imaginations on the part of members of this forum who got the listing removed.
Like I said, censorship at it's worse! >>
Nothing wrong with a coin that multiple people who examined the pictures and saw an 1864-CC dollar? Really? And WE did not remove the sale from eBay, only eBay can do that, and they did, so they must have seen the same thing we did. I don't believe this is censorship. Is convincing Coin World and Numismatic News to remove advertising privileges for people selling counterfeit coins in countefeit PCGS slabs, considered "censorship"? I did that too, I do not apologize whatsoever for doing either of these things, and I would call it "consumer protection".
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
Link to Coins Community Watch
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<< <i>Listing has been removed. >>
Sweet! Way to go everyone. >>
Yes way to go everyone, censorship at it's worse. >>
Uh...was it your auction? >>
The point is not whether it was or wasn't.
The point is there was nothing wrong with the listing, and only guess work, albeit terrible guess work, of what may or may not have been on either side of the coin.
Nothing but wild imaginations on the part of members of this forum who got the listing removed.
Like I said, censorship at it's worse! >>
Nothing wrong with a coin that multiple people who examined the pictures and saw an 1864-CC dollar? Really? And WE did not remove the sale from eBay, only eBay can do that, and they did, so they must have seen the same thing we did. I don't believe this is censorship. Is convincing Coin World and Numismatic News to remove advertising privileges for people selling counterfeit coins in countefeit PCGS slabs, considered "censorship"? I did that too, I do not apologize whatsoever for doing either of these things, and I would call it "consumer protection". >>
Don't feed the 15 post troll please. He doesn't deserve your response
get burned by these scammers. Every time I see a fake on Ebay they always say the same stuff " genuine, bought at a coin shop, or I don't know much about coins" all with the premise of no returns. Who the hell would believe that, well some do and usually to the tune of hundreds of dollars. I really believe all new collectors should by a book first, then a real coin from a reputable source, then go for it on Ebay if they feel sure of themselves. I also feel its a community effort to protect new collectors from deceptive and out right fraudulent sellers on ebay and else where. Sorry for the long rant but the troll talking about censorship at its worst really got my blood boiling.
type2,CCHunter.
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<< <i>Listing has been removed. >>
Sweet! Way to go everyone. >>
Yes way to go everyone, censorship at it's worse. >>
Uh...was it your auction? >>
The point is not whether it was or wasn't.
The point is there was nothing wrong with the listing, and only guess work, albeit terrible guess work, of what may or may not have been on either side of the coin.
Nothing but wild imaginations on the part of members of this forum who got the listing removed.
Like I said, censorship at it's worse! >>
What's wrong with censoring a crook who is out to rip off an unsuspecting victum? Based on your response above I'm guessing that it was your auction. No genuine 1864 coin has In God We Trust so there is no doubt that the coin was a counterfeit.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i>To take a slightly contrarian position, I would not have much sympathy for anyone that paid big bux for a 1864-CC dollar. >>
What is the quote about the best way for evil to triumph is for people of good will to do nothing? >>
The point being that it takes two willing people to make a bad deal.
If one of them happens to be a bad guy, then by all means pile on.
<< <i>What is the quote about the best way for evil to triumph is for people of good will to do nothing?
Courtesy of Google and Wikipedia:
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke) >>
Thank you.
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Sweet! Way to go everyone. >>
Yes way to go everyone, censorship at it's worse. >>
Uh...was it your auction? >>
The point is not whether it was or wasn't.
The point is there was nothing wrong with the listing, and only guess work, albeit terrible guess work, of what may or may not have been on either side of the coin.
Nothing but wild imaginations on the part of members of this forum who got the listing removed.
Like I said, censorship at it's worse! >>
I got here too late to see the listing.
Uh, most of the people who post on this forum are either advanced collectors or professional dealers that know what they are talking about. Some like the OP are experts in their field. Your statement "Nothing but wild imaginations on the part of members of this forum who got the listing removed.", is just totally ignorant. I also report all fakes that I see and Ebay removes some of them but not all of them.
Bob
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<< <i>Listing has been removed. >>
Sweet! Way to go everyone. >>
Yes way to go everyone, censorship at it's worse. >>
Uh...was it your auction? >>
The point is not whether it was or wasn't.
The point is there was nothing wrong with the listing, and only guess work, albeit terrible guess work, of what may or may not have been on either side of the coin.
Nothing but wild imaginations on the part of members of this forum who got the listing removed.
Like I said, censorship at it's worse! >>
What's wrong with censoring a crook who is out to rip off an unsuspecting victum? Based on your response above I'm guessing that it was your auction. No genuine 1864 coin has In God We Trust so there is no doubt that the coin was a counterfeit. >>
I agree with your statement, except, there is a "GENUINE" coin minted in 1864 that does have the motto "In God We Trust"........the 2 cent piece.
PS: That was once the $1,000,000 question on "who want's to be a millionaire"
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<< <i>Listing has been removed. >>
Sweet! Way to go everyone. >>
Yes way to go everyone, censorship at it's worse. >>
Uh...was it your auction? >>
The point is not whether it was or wasn't.
The point is there was nothing wrong with the listing, and only guess work, albeit terrible guess work, of what may or may not have been on either side of the coin.
Nothing but wild imaginations on the part of members of this forum who got the listing removed.
Like I said, censorship at it's worse! >>
What's wrong with censoring a crook who is out to rip off an unsuspecting victum? Based on your response above I'm guessing that it was your auction. No genuine 1864 coin has In God We Trust so there is no doubt that the coin was a counterfeit. >>
I agree with your statement, except, there is a "GENUINE" coin minted in 1864 that does have the motto "In God We Trust"........the 2 cent piece.
PS: That was once the $1,000,000 question on "who want's to be a millionaire" >>
Good point---I forgot about that one. I think we can all agree that the coin in question is fake and there is no genuine counterpart to this coin.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i>Listing has been removed. >>
Sweet! Way to go everyone. >>
Yes way to go everyone, censorship at it's worse. >>
Uh...was it your auction? >>
The point is not whether it was or wasn't.
The point is there was nothing wrong with the listing, and only guess work, albeit terrible guess work, of what may or may not have been on either side of the coin.
Nothing but wild imaginations on the part of members of this forum who got the listing removed.
Like I said, censorship at it's worse! >>
Nothing wrong with a coin that multiple people who examined the pictures and saw an 1864-CC dollar? Really? And WE did not remove the sale from eBay, only eBay can do that, and they did, so they must have seen the same thing we did. I don't believe this is censorship. Is convincing Coin World and Numismatic News to remove advertising privileges for people selling counterfeit coins in countefeit PCGS slabs, considered "censorship"? I did that too, I do not apologize whatsoever for doing either of these things, and I would call it "consumer protection". >>
There is not one you who whined, and can say with 100% certainty, from those awfully blurry pics, that there was a CC on the back of that coin.
End of story!
Nice call-out.
Those in the know must help those who may not know to keep our hobby safe for all.
<< <i>The second picture clearly shows the CC mint mark, as well as
IN GOD WE TRUST" above the eagle.
Reported. >>
UNCOnly---how do you explain the IGWT motto on this coin other than it's a fake?
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire