Charmy's December 2011 ONTARIO COIN SHOW Report w/Pics!

The Ontario Coin Show is put on by CK Shows (Frank and Dawn) and, and as I’ve mentioned before, they do an excellent job of promoting this show. I don’t know any other coin show promoters who work harder at putting a show together including having large billboard and print/online advertising, getting more and more dealers to participate, obtaining guest lecturers, having a strong security presence, and constantly seeking new ideas for improvement. I’ve heard these same comments over and over from many of the other dealers. Even though this particular show was probably slower than the summer one, the dealers feel much loyalty to Frank and Dawn because they truly care about improving the Ontario show, including asking each of us what we think they can do to improve it.

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Set up at the show was Thursday from 9-noon. My inventory needed a little expansion since I had too many stacks of certified coins and didn’t have room to spread them out. So I had Al Arnold (Arnold’s Coin Exchange) make another showcase for me with the new one being 3 inches wider so it would hold three of my raw coin trays side by side. I was so excited when he delivered it to me at the Ontario show! It took me a little while to adjust to the new configuration, but it really worked out well, and I am quite pleased with the new case (of course, I can’t take it to my fly-away shows so I will have to continue squishing in as much of my inventory into the smaller metal cases as I can!)

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This photo was taken from the front door just before the public was let in
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The show then opened to the public at noon and there were about 50+ people waiting at the door. The convention room we are in is quite large so there is plenty of room between the aisles. People kept streaming in so the room started to get a typical show “buzz” but at many of the recent shows I’ve attended, it is very clear that people seem to be much more cautious with spending their hard-earned money so many dealers reported slow sales.

A fellow dealer friend of mine brought me this wonderful bottle of Red Truck wine – as you can see, it was enjoyed and quickly consumed by several of us!
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After the show on Thursday, I joined some other dealers in the hotel bar – it was a very friendly and charming bar/restaurant and we ended up spending the rest of the evening there along with several other dealers who stopped by.
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These are my new BFF’s Patrick and John from Sierra Gold & Coin of Grass Valley, CA.
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The showed got busier on Friday.
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My good friend Glenn Frank put on display an ORIGINAL early morning edition of the newspaper his grandparents saved from the day that Lincoln died. It was featured on an episode of Antiques Roadshow who said the paper was “priceless” as few original newspapers from that day have survived.

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President Alex Jaramillo and Vice President Tony Micciche of the San Bernardino Coin Club
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After the show on Friday, we went to Rosa’s for dinner – it is a huge favorite of many of the dealers who attend the Ontario show. I had a dish of fettucini with a creamy sherry sauce and lobster, along with this wonderful lobster bisque.
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Then I headed over to the San Manuel casino for some poker of course!

On Saturday, the scouts came in to work on their coin collecting merit badge
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This is a booth that had really colorful gemstones and rocks
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Glenn Holsonbake/PonyExpress and PQPeace/Larry Shapiro (playing Friends with Words)
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Jerry and Donna at Baubles & Booty
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Logan McKechnie of VAMS & More is one of the most renowned experts on VAMS and was one of the guest speakers during the show – his class seemed quite popular and was very well attended.
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My good friend and booth helper brought me this very special bottle of wine for Christmas – I can’t wait to open this one!
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The booth across from my table had this HUGE diamond ring for sale – it has a 5 carat center diamond with two 1 ½ carat diamonds on either side. They were asking $95,000!
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Sadly, however, this same dealer had an 1803 dollar PCGS AU50 ($8,000-$9,000 approx. value) stolen from his case on Saturday. So if anyone comes across this coin, please notify the Ontario Police Department.

So overall, the show was a bit slow but ended up being successful for me. And even if the show wasn’t “in my backyard,” for the reasons I mentioned above, I will definitely continue to support it!
Charmy Harker - The Penny Lady®
President of Women in Numismatics

ThePennyLady.com
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Comments

  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,301 ✭✭✭✭
    Sadly, however, this same dealer had an 1804 dollar PCGS AU50 ($8,000-$9,000 approx. value) stolen from his case on Saturday.

    Yikes, the market for those has really crumped.

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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,151 ✭✭✭
    An 1804 dollar was stolen?
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  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 9,108 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Sadly, however, this same dealer had an 1804 dollar PCGS AU50 ($8,000-$9,000 approx. value) stolen from his case on Saturday. So if anyone comes across this coin, please notify the Ontario Police Department. >>



    An 1804 dollar? Are you sure?

    The Friday picture has the show looking fairly busy. At least it looked busier than Thursday.
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  • Diamond looks a little high in color and for 90k something else is wrong too. That Said if the dealer also lost a 1804 dollar the ring would be a good start in the reward fund.
  • curlycurly Posts: 2,930

    I dig your pics, Charmy.
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  • ThePennyLadyThePennyLady Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭✭
    Oops, my bad, it was an 1803 dollar!
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  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 6,902 ✭✭✭✭
    That Alexander Valley Silver Oak cab is an excellent choice.
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  • AuroraBorealisAuroraBorealis Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thank you PL for another cool report!

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  • RYKRYK Posts: 35,301 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That Alexander Valley Silver Oak cab is an excellent choice. >>


    Agree. I cannot afford to collect coins AND drink Silver Oak, so I have chosen to do the former.


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  • << <i>Diamond looks a little high in color and for 90k something else is wrong too. That Said if the dealer also lost a 1804 dollar the ring would be a good start in the reward fund. >>



    The center diamond if very lucky will grade si3. It appears to be an I1 IMO color is higher probably around H or I
    Not worth 90k any day
    Maybe 20k if your lucky
    I am a coin
  • WTCGWTCG Posts: 9,108 ✭✭✭
    As for that ring, the $95,000 is the asking price. I have never met a jewelry seller anywhere in the world who sets firm prices and won't accept counteroffers. For a variety of reasons profit margins for jewelry is notoriously high. If you thought your coin dealer's buy back price was low, lucky for you you haven't tried to sell back jewelry to your local jeweler. Anybody who has tried knows exactly what I'm talking about.
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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 6,981 ✭✭✭


    << <i>As for that ring, the $95,000 is the asking price. I have never met a jewelry seller anywhere in the world who sets firm prices and won't accept counteroffers. For a variety of reasons profit margins for jewelry is notoriously high. If you thought your coin dealer's buy back price was low, lucky for you you haven't tried to sell back jewelry to your local jeweler. Anybody who has tried knows exactly what I'm talking about. >>



    I'll second that!
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "Gold is the canary in the financial coal mine." (Alan Greenspan)

  • Another excellent report PL. Thanks for taking the time and posting the pictures.

    Ron

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  • thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 3,840 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for the enjoyable report, Charmy.


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  • rickoricko Posts: 52,642 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great report... as always.. Charmy. That Silver Oak Cab is really good, have had it several times. Cheers, RickO
  • kazkaz Posts: 6,100 ✭✭✭✭
    A great report, thanks for posting it!
  • etexmikeetexmike Posts: 6,929 ✭✭✭
    Thanks again Charmy for the report and show pics. I always look forward to both.


    Mike
  • dimplesdimples Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Oops, my bad, it was an 1803 dollar! >>



    I think it was all that wine you drank image


  • << <i>

    << <i>Diamond looks a little high in color and for 90k something else is wrong too. That Said if the dealer also lost a 1804 dollar the ring would be a good start in the reward fund. >>



    The center diamond if very lucky will grade si3. It appears to be an I1 IMO color is higher probably around H or I
    Not worth 90k any day
    Maybe 20k if your lucky >>



    Not sure how you got those grades from photos (grading coins is hard for pics, stones impossible) but like coins and most other hard assets Diamonds have gone through a huge boom in the last couple of years and there aren't m/any 20k 5kt stones even princess/radiant cuts. Although I would agree and I would guess that it had a grade in the SI-I range but would guess a color closer to J with the purple look in the picture, the tint imparts a darkness sometimes in photography with the yellow absorbs light at a different rate then say the side stones. Also we think third world slabs are bad in our hobby you should see the amount of third world graders in the would of stones.
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 16,621 ✭✭✭✭
    nice report charmy
  • goose3goose3 Posts: 13,205 ✭✭✭
    That ring is very similar to my wife's wedding ring in design. In fact almost identical. Except hers is not 5 caratsimage

    The newspaper is killer!
  • SoCalBigMarkSoCalBigMark Posts: 2,079 ✭✭✭
    How was the show this weekend?
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 16,621 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Oops, my bad, it was an 1803 dollar! >>

    hey, it happens to the bestest of us, no worries here
  • ThePennyLadyThePennyLady Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>How was the show this weekend? >>



    FYI - THIS THREAD IS FROM DECEMBER 2011 - My JULY 2012 SHOW REPORT IS POSTED HERE: JULY 2012 ONTARIO SHOW REPORT
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  • 123cents123cents Posts: 7,428 ✭✭✭
    Nice report and great photos!
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  • HighReliefHighRelief Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭
    Enjoyed reading your Ontario Coin Show Report along with the pictures image
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