Guess the grades- Bust halves

rhedden

All of these are coins were purchased raw, but are now in PCGS holders. Guess the grades!

Hints: None of them are graded "Genuine." All coins were submitted only once. Photos were taken with an inexpensive digital camera with ordinary lighting, and therefore won't look as nice as PCGS True Views.

You can check your answers instantly by looking up the cert. numbers, but please don't post the grades PCGS assigned and spoil the game for others.

1805 11925847

1817 14744963

1820/19 16053861

1827 16053865

STONE

15
45 (was going to say 40, but I think its better)
35
50

STONE

Ummmm, while I was thinking VF-20 for the 1805 (netted to F-15 for an old cleaning/dip), it should not have been given the grade PCGS assigned it.

I was satisfactorily close on the other 3

stealer

30
40
40
53

I promise those were the first grades I guessed

TomB

I'm going to grade largely on details and less on the quality of the surfaces because of the lighting used. Also, no consideration is given to die marriage characteristics.

1805; VF20
1817; EF40
1820; VF25
1827; AU50

Now I'll check to see how badly I've been schooled.

Baley

my first impressions were 20 40 30 50

steveben

wow, i am surprised. they all look cleaned to me (with the 17 and the 27 having re-toned). but, i guess that shows what i know about this series...not much apparently.

rhedden

Let's reconsider the 1805 for a moment. How do you feel about its grade after seeing these pics? These were taken with a better camera, albeit sill a cheap digital SLR camera.

TennesseeDave

30
45
40
45

steveben

<< <i>Let's reconsider the 1805 for a moment. How do you feel about its grade after seeing these pics? These were taken with a better camera, albeit sill a cheap digital SLR camera.

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yeah, that photo definitely makes a difference. i still say it's been cleaned before, but there's a difference between market acceptable and just plain cleaned. i get that. however, what about the 1820? convince me on that one. please don't take offense. i need education. you obviously have a good eye buying these raw and receiving grades on all of them.

rhedden

It's actually as original as you can hope for in person. It's still a comparatively poor photo!

I am amazed how much the photo quality and lighting can make a difference in peoples' opinions. On average, each coin has been undergraded by 10 points so far!

TomB

Lighting definitely plays a major role in our grades, but I think what also plays an important role is the fact that these grades are all single data points that could move either way upon subsequent regrades and this movement might make some guesses appear more accurate.

rhedden

The coins are graded accurately. The only one that might go down 5 pts. upon re-submission is the 1820/19. No chance on the others.

TomB

"Accurately" graded does not mean that the grade cannot change upon resubmission.

CoinJunkie

20
45
40
53

shorecoll

First impressions were 15/40/20/50

The 20 is unevenly struck so gives me trouble.

The 1805 probably gets a pop for being an 1805 and could be a 20 or 25, but I don't see it as a 30 or above.

lkeigwin

25, 45, 35, 53
Lance.

Billet7

First impressions.

10
45
30
50

Now that I look again perhaps the DBH should be a bit higher.

Billet7

BTW, the first pics of the DBH appear to be much more worn due to the washed out look. Judging by the second set of pics I would put the grade higher 20-25.

jayPem

20
40
30
50

Raybo

I just love the '17 and 27, they look good to my old eyes.

kaz

OK I'll play.

1805- vf35
1817- XF45
1820- VF35
1827- AU53

nice group of coins!