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Un-oh, my son is color-blind
Fountainhead
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I always expected he would inherit my collection someday. But he can't tell green from red, purple from blue, or even red from brown.
Any suggestions, people?
Any suggestions, people?
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Buying expensive coins for a youngster thinking that is going to make him/her a collector is a low percentage play. The common scenario is the kid sells the first chance they get, often at a local pawn shop for next to nothing.
If is only about colors, and the son is really interested in coins, gold is a good suggestion, as is old brown copper, perhaps old ancient silver as well.
No real color to have to decifer
Gold's not really the answer. I'm color blind and primarly collect gold, not the bright dipped out stuff. The descriptions often talk about the shades of orange/red/green/brown and I can't see it, while others can. Color blind doesn't mean that you don't see any color. But, when various shades are blended together, you aren't able to differentiate. I still enjoy the coloration, I just don't see it the same way as other's do.
<< <i>The descriptions often talk about the shades of orange/red/green/brown and I can't see it, while others can. >>
How well do you do with copper?
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<< <i>How well do you do with copper? >>
I only have a single RB piece in my collection and see the two colors. Coins with uniform color I see basic red, brown or chocolate. Looks good to me, but then a color blind person has their own reality, which may not be what is really there.
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<< <i>Can you make out green patina on copper coins? >>
Good question! Short answer: No
Last year I sent a large copper cent into NGC to have it re-holdered. I got a call from them and they asked if I wanted them to conserve the coin and have "the green crud" removed. Huh?! I had that coin for over 10 years and could not see it.
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<< <i>Can you make out green patina on copper coins? >>
Good question! Short answer: No
Last year I sent a large copper cent into NGC to have it re-holdered. I got a call from them and they asked if I wanted them to conserve the coin and have "the green crud" removed. Huh?! I had that coin for over 10 years and could not see it. >>
Interesting that NGC is "upselling" services. Did you get an order of fries, too?
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Now I could be wrong, but this simple mind thinks in terms of detail, not color. If he can read black and white he could be well on his way to where the greats all go:
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<< <i>Interesting that NGC is "upselling" services. Did you get an order of fries, too?
No charge for the conservation service.
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<< <i>Interesting that NGC is "upselling" services. Did you get an order of fries, too?
No charge for the conservation service. >>
Interesting ... that's good to hear.
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I'm getting old and can't remember it all. Like dates and populations and those things which are rudimentary to numismatics.
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<< <i>Can you make out green patina on copper coins? >>
Good question! Short answer: No
Last year I sent a large copper cent into NGC to have it re-holdered. I got a call from them and they asked if I wanted them to conserve the coin and have "the green crud" removed. Huh?! I had that coin for over 10 years and could not see it. >>
Interesting that NGC is "upselling" services. Did you get an order of fries, too?
They did him a favor. Active PVC = bodybag.
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AB
<< <i>First off my question is how old is he, onced I hear the age I will respond. >>
Eleven
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<< <i>First off my question is how old is he, onced I hear the age I will respond. >>
Eleven >>
Fountainhead if you were to collect those kind of coins that i posted even though they do not have much color by the time your little guy is 50 i almost bet he would be seeing green...
All the best to you and your tyker and happy collecting...
AB
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The first time it really interfered with things was when I took histology in school. In histology, you have to learn the microscopic appearance of all types of tissue and the only two colors that are used for the vast majority of slides are shades of red or blue. I had a really hard time at first as everything is described in these shades of red and blue. However, although I could not see the colors, both dyes still had an appearance distinct from the other. They had characteristics other than color that I could use to tell them apart. Once I learned how to tell what they meant by basophilic (blue) and eosinophilic (red) I was fine. Also, I had to look beyond the color for other clues to identify the tissue. Even though I did well, I knew pathology as a career was not for me.
As for coins, it affects what I like as any individual eye would. I know ugly toning and I know nice toning. I can even "see" rainbow toning but can't describe the actual colors well or differentiate the subtle shades until they are pointed out. I do not prefer blast white coins. A good example of my favorite look in a coin is what TomB offers on his site. I also find that I like the coins Realone and Barndog show and MJ recently displayed a Pilgrim commem that really spoke to me. I really like gold - and not dipped out gold. RYK's dirty gold does not speak to me though - often the actual dirt stands out too much relative the "dirty" tone he looks for in gold. I have never seen a toned Franklin that I like and for the life of me I do not see what others like about them (pun intended). A lot of toning that people rave about appears brown and splotchy to me.
Where I am less reliable is finding verdigris and PVC. Others see green, I see the stuff itself and they too have characteristics other than color that can be used in visual identification. I had to lean that the hard way of course because there is no guide to coin collecting for the color blind.
Bottom line, your kid will be able to do whatever he wants just fine. He'll figure it out. Just don't don't ask him to try and tell you how what he sees is different from you. Its impossible.
Cheers,
tjc
<< <i>I'm color blind. People have asked me what that is like and what I see - of course it is impossible to describe because it is the only way I have ever seen and I can't tell you how it is different from what you see. My mother's father was color blind so it was not unexpected in my family. It became apparent when I started dressing my self and when I had to name colors in school but I was not formally tested until high school. At the time they told me I would not be able to be a pilot or an electrician plus I am sure some other professions.
The first time it really interfered with things was when I took histology in school. In histology, you have to learn the microscopic appearance of all types of tissue and the only two colors that are used for the vast majority of slides are shades of red or blue. I had a really hard time at first as everything is described in these shades of red and blue. However, although I could not see the colors, both dyes still had an appearance distinct from the other. They had characteristics other than color that I could use to tell them apart. Once I learned how to tell what they meant by basophilic (blue) and eosinophilic (red) I was fine. Also, I had to look beyond the color for other clues to identify the tissue. Even though I did well, I knew pathology as a career was not for me.
As for coins, it affects what I like as any individual eye would. I know ugly toning and I know nice toning. I can even "see" rainbow toning but can't describe the actual colors well or differentiate the subtle shades until they are pointed out. I do not prefer blast white coins. A good example of my favorite look in a coin is what TomB offers on his site. I also find that I like the coins Realone and Barndog show and MJ recently displayed a Pilgrim commem that really spoke to me. I really like gold - and not dipped out gold. RYK's dirty gold does not speak to me though - often the actual dirt stands out too much relative the "dirty" tone he looks for in gold. I have never seen a toned Franklin that I like and for the life of me I do not see what others like about them (pun intended). A lot of toning that people rave about appears brown and splotchy to me.
Where I am less reliable is finding verdigris and PVC. Others see green, I see the stuff itself and they too have characteristics other than color that can be used in visual identification. I had to lean that the hard way of course because there is no guide to coin collecting for the color blind.
Bottom line, your kid will be able to do whatever he wants just fine. He'll figure it out. Just don't don't ask him to try and tell you how what he sees is different from you. Its impossible.
Cheers,
tjc >>
Great post and makes alot of sense about being able to still be able to enjoy and figure out different colors as how someone color blind would be able to see them...
AB
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<< <i>Unless the son is really interested in the hobby, forget about it. Most heirs sell inherited coins for far below market value. I suggest passing on a few coins of low dollar value, high sentimental value, to non-collectors, sell the rest before you go.
Buying expensive coins for a youngster thinking that is going to make him/her a collector is a low percentage play. The common scenario is the kid sells the first chance they get, often at a local pawn shop for next to nothing.
If is only about colors, and the son is really interested in coins, gold is a good suggestion, as is old brown copper, perhaps old ancient silver as well. >>
So true my kids have no interest in my collection, I have given my wife clear instructions on how to sell my collection on that sad day. I have written all the auction houses down that I want her to use and contacts for reputable dealers for other items. I would suggest everyone have a plan for your collection for that day.
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