Non FS 25th anniversary sets??

beartracks42

Who on the forums had their set(s) graded without the first Strike and how did you make out? I did not pay for the FS label. Personally, I think it is not worth it on a silver bullion one ounce coin. My grades were posted today and I received two complete 70 sets and two 69 sets. I also got a MS67, PF68DCAM and three other 69's.

Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
1 1 20719652 509185 2011 $1 Silver Eagle USA MS69
1 2 20719653 509185 2011 $1 Silver Eagle USA MS69
1 3 20719654 509185 2011 $1 Silver Eagle USA MS70
1 4 20719655 509185 2011 $1 Silver Eagle USA MS70
1 5 20719656 509185 2011 $1 Silver Eagle USA MS70
2 1 20719657 509299 2011-S $1 Silver Eagle USA MS70
2 2 20719658 509299 2011-S $1 Silver Eagle USA MS69
2 3 20719659 509299 2011-S $1 Silver Eagle USA MS69
2 4 20719660 509299 2011-S $1 Silver Eagle USA MS70
2 5 20719661 509299 2011-S $1 Silver Eagle USA MS69
3 1 20719662 509190 2011-W $1 Silver Eagle USA MS67
3 2 20719663 509190 2011-W $1 Silver Eagle USA MS70
3 3 20719664 509190 2011-W $1 Silver Eagle USA MS69
3 4 20719665 509190 2011-W $1 Silver Eagle USA MS69
3 5 20719666 509190 2011-W $1 Silver Eagle USA MS70
4 1 20719667 509191 2011-W $1 Silver Eagle USA PR70DC
4 2 20719668 509191 2011-W $1 Silver Eagle USA PR68DC
4 3 20719669 509191 2011-W $1 Silver Eagle USA PR69DC
4 4 20719670 509191 2011-W $1 Silver Eagle USA PR70DC
4 5 20719671 509191 2011-W $1 Silver Eagle USA PR69DC
5 1 20719672 509192 2011-P $1 Silver Eagle Reverse PR USA PR70
5 2 20719673 509192 2011-P $1 Silver Eagle Reverse PR USA PR70
5 3 20719674 509192 2011-P $1 Silver Eagle Reverse PR USA PR69
5 4 20719675 509192 2011-P $1 Silver Eagle Reverse PR USA PR70
5 5 20719676 509192 2011-P $1 Silver Eagle Reverse PR USA PR69

Edited to add grades

Gary

illini420

I didn't pay for FS labels on my submission. It wasn't all about saving the $450 in extra fees on 5 sets (though that played a part), I mostly just like the way the coins look in the regular holders better and I figure there's likely others who feel the same way and would like these regular labels to match the rest of their collection.



It could have been easy to think that PCGS could punish me and give me bad grades for not paying the FS fees, but that isn't the case. I think I did pretty well on the grading:

Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
1 1 20721402 509185 2011 $1 Silver Eagle USA MS68
1 2 20721403 509185 2011 $1 Silver Eagle USA MS69
1 3 20721404 509185 2011 $1 Silver Eagle USA MS69
1 4 20721405 509185 2011 $1 Silver Eagle USA MS69
1 5 20721406 509185 2011 $1 Silver Eagle USA MS68
2 1 20721407 509299 2011-S $1 Silver Eagle USA MS69
2 2 20721408 509299 2011-S $1 Silver Eagle USA MS69
2 3 20721409 509299 2011-S $1 Silver Eagle USA MS69
2 4 20721410 509299 2011-S $1 Silver Eagle USA MS69
2 5 20721411 509299 2011-S $1 Silver Eagle USA MS69
3 1 20721412 509190 2011-W $1 Silver Eagle USA MS70
3 2 20721413 509190 2011-W $1 Silver Eagle USA MS69
3 3 20721414 509190 2011-W $1 Silver Eagle USA MS69
3 4 20721415 509190 2011-W $1 Silver Eagle USA MS70
3 5 20721416 509190 2011-W $1 Silver Eagle USA MS70
4 1 20721417 509191 2011-W $1 Silver Eagle USA PR69DC
4 2 20721418 509191 2011-W $1 Silver Eagle USA PR70DC
4 3 20721419 509191 2011-W $1 Silver Eagle USA PR69DC
4 4 20721420 509191 2011-W $1 Silver Eagle USA PR70DC
4 5 20721421 509191 2011-W $1 Silver Eagle USA PR69DC
5 1 20721422 509192 2011-P $1 Silver Eagle Reverse PR USA PR69
5 2 20721423 509192 2011-P $1 Silver Eagle Reverse PR USA PR70
5 3 20721424 509192 2011-P $1 Silver Eagle Reverse PR USA PR70
5 4 20721425 509192 2011-P $1 Silver Eagle Reverse PR USA PR70
5 5 20721426 509192 2011-P $1 Silver Eagle Reverse PR USA PR70
Total Items: 25
Date Received: 11/15/2011
Date Shipped: 11/29/2011
Order Status: Shipped

Didn't get any 70s on the 2011-S, but I got 4/5 on the reverse proof which I think was a major score. I have many of them listed up on eBay right now so we'll see if the market values these non-FS coins less than the FS. I think they may slightly, but I don't think it'll be significant to where I'll regret not paying the extra $450.

messydesk

It'll be interesting to see if the non-FS actually turns out to be the lower population option.

illini420

<< <i>It'll be interesting to see if the non-FS actually turns out to be the lower population option. >>



Of course it's much much lower right now.

But after the FS deadline passes next week, non-FS is the only option left for the Reverse Proofs and the 2011-S coins out there in unsealed sets, and there are lots of them out there. Many more of those will be made. But for the other 3 coins, many fewer non-FS coins will be out there, but more are likely coming. The Mint is still shipping these sets and it's looking like some will ship past the PCGS FS deadline.

fiveNdime

<< <i> I mostly just like the way the coins look in the regular holders better and I figure there's likely others who feel the same way >>




much cleaner label.

leothelyon

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<< <i> I mostly just like the way the coins look in the regular holders better and I figure there's likely others who feel the same way >>




much cleaner label. >>




....and sincere!

Solo

<< <i>I did not pay for the FS label. Personally, I think it is not worth it on a silver bullion one ounce coin. >>



Even though I personally feel the FS designation is absolutely silly, and collectors paying large premiums for it need to have their heads checked , the fact of the matter is there are oodles of modern pcgs FS70 collectors out there and they pay big bucks for their labels. I think it's fueled by the hardcore registry "top pop" obsessed as there's just no other way to explain why a FS designated coin will sometimes sell for *multiples* of a regular pcgs70. Just look at the closed auctions on eBay for the first spouse Louise Adams coin and you'll see exactly what I'm talking about .

As such, anything I send to PCGS will be labeled FS if at all possible solely due to the fact I would expect to get that money back in the end. I haven't been in the hobby for a lifetime, but I'm betting the FS/ER fad will eventually wane and folks who paid outrageous premiums will either take a loss or simply not make as much if they had stuck to raw ogp coins. To each their own though...

messydesk

<< <i>the fact of the matter is there are oodles of modern pcgs FS70 collectors out there and they pay big bucks for their labels. >>


I must wonder if any of these people chasing label flavors are the same ones complaining about a proliferation of mint products they need to buy. USPS, anyone?


<< <i>The Mint is still shipping these sets and it's looking like some will ship past the PCGS FS deadline. >>


But the population of "First Strike Forgone" coins will be low. These will be distinguishable from the "non-FS Eligible" coins only by the submission paperwork that shows the serial number and submission date.


<< <i>[non FS label is a] much cleaner label. [...] .... and sincere! >>


Agree. The Great Pumpkin is therefore much more likely to visit my collection.

Amigo

I'm just curious if it's possible that a non FS 70 can then be reholdered as a FS based on when it was originally slabbed. If selling individually it might make more sense to pay the reholder fee on those that already have a 70 grade !!!!! My guess is that PCCS won't allow it, kinda their way of pushing for grading fees on bulk FS submissions on every coin. Does anyone know ?

illini420

<< <i>I'm just curious if it's possible that a non FS 70 can then be reholdered as a FS based on when it was originally slabbed. If selling individually it might make more sense to pay the reholder fee on those that already have a 70 grade !!!!! My guess is that PCCS won't allow it, kinda their way of pushing for grading fees on bulk FS submissions on every coin. Does anyone know ? >>




PCGS Customer Service told me no. Even though they already certified the coins as coming from the 25th Anniversary Set and even though it's still within the First Strike deadline.

OPA

<< <i>but I don't think it'll be significant to where I'll regret not paying the extra $450. >>



Only time will tell, and btw at the price you've got them listed, don't hold your breath in getting to many offers for the better or key coins...just my 2cents. You're competing against to many lower BIN or BO's

claychaser

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<< <i>I'm just curious if it's possible that a non FS 70 can then be reholdered as a FS based on when it was originally slabbed. If selling individually it might make more sense to pay the reholder fee on those that already have a 70 grade !!!!! My guess is that PCCS won't allow it, kinda their way of pushing for grading fees on bulk FS submissions on every coin. Does anyone know ? >>




PCGS Customer Service told me no. Even though they already certified the coins as coming from the 25th Anniversary Set and even though it's still within the First Strike deadline. >>



Crack 'em out and submit raw for F/Strike

illini420

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<< <i>I'm just curious if it's possible that a non FS 70 can then be reholdered as a FS based on when it was originally slabbed. If selling individually it might make more sense to pay the reholder fee on those that already have a 70 grade !!!!! My guess is that PCCS won't allow it, kinda their way of pushing for grading fees on bulk FS submissions on every coin. Does anyone know ? >>




PCGS Customer Service told me no. Even though they already certified the coins as coming from the 25th Anniversary Set and even though it's still within the First Strike deadline. >>



Crack 'em out and submit raw for F/Strike >>




That is still a possibility until the FS deadline has passed... and if you believe PCGS is consistent in their grading and you're careful not to damage the coin, they should all come back in the same grades... I'm not going to try it with my coins though

fiveNdime

<< <i>The Great Pumpkin is therefore much more likely to visit my collection. >>

IrishMikey

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<< <i>I'm just curious if it's possible that a non FS 70 can then be reholdered as a FS based on when it was originally slabbed. If selling individually it might make more sense to pay the reholder fee on those that already have a 70 grade !!!!! My guess is that PCCS won't allow it, kinda their way of pushing for grading fees on bulk FS submissions on every coin. Does anyone know ? >>




PCGS Customer Service told me no. Even though they already certified the coins as coming from the 25th Anniversary Set and even though it's still within the First Strike deadline. >>


If you have 10,000 of them to reholder, and you ask nicely, I will bet that they will accommodate.