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"Reverse Cherrypicking" anyone?

rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭✭✭
Have any of you ever experienced the sublime joy of "reverse cherrypicking"? If cherrypicking is defined as the act of paying a small amount of money for a massively rare variety, then reverse cherrypicking would be defined as paying a massive premium for a coin that turns out to be a common variety. In other words, due to thinking you found a rare variety, you overpay horribly for something which, upon closer inspection, is not what you initially thought it was. It's even better if an anonymous seller has disappeared into thin air with your money in the mean time.

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Example # 1: I thought I had acquired a rare (R5) 1800/79, Sheldon-195 large cent on eBay, paying a high price, only to figure out shortly thereafter that it was a less exciting (R4) S-193 instead. I didn't overpay by too much, but what a disappointment.

Example #2: A dealer I know gleefully whipped out an 1830 "Large Letters" Bust half at a small, local show about 7 years ago. He wanted $1,800 for it, explaining in a hushed voice that a collector had just cherrypicked it on the other side of the room for $30. I flipped it over and saw immediately that it was not the O-114 Large Letters variety and passed on it. He knew instantly what he had done: paid a stranger $1200 for a $30 coin. The person who "cherrypicked" it was nowhere to be found. Ouch.

Now who else cares to admit to making a good blunder or two?





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  • Tdec1000Tdec1000 Posts: 3,851 ✭✭✭
    Example number 2 is a rough one! wow!
    Awarded the coveted "You Suck" Award on 22 Oct 2010 for finding a 1942/1 D Dime in silver, and on 7 Feb 2011 Cherrypicking a 1914 MPL Cent on Ebay!

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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,687 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've won several auctions with strong bids on eBay only to receive a coin which I'd misattributed. Most recently it was an 1870 Indian cent in full good which I vastly overpaid for thinking it was a popular misplaced date variety.

    I also remember a time at a WESPNEX show when an older dealer offered me my choice of a couple of extremely worn large cents for $10. I choose an 1803 thinking it was a rare date/fraction variety, except it wasn't. The other coin I could have had was a 1794. I remember the dealer just shaking his head when I told him which coin I wanted.


    Sean Reynolds
    Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.

    "Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I remember the dealer just shaking his head when I told him which coin I wanted.



    LOL- it was probably an S-48 Starred reverse, too. image
  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,474 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was so proud of myself for having purchased a 1794 Flowing Hair Half that I graded Poor 1, for just a few hunnerd, until the TPG's rejected it repeatedly as a no decision. image

    "Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
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  • Picked a 1870 cc half from a meltbucket for 2x spot
    Got home and gave it a quick dip to remove the pvc
    To my horror the cc mintmark just fell off...
  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To my horror the cc mintmark just fell off...



    Too funny. I once dug up a 1909-s Indian cent while metal detecting, and while removing the heavy crust and corrosion around the mint mark area with a pocket knife, the corroded mint mark just flaked off the coin. I don't think it was fake, just heavily oxidized, and there it went down the drain. My local coin dealer laughed until he was blue in the face. Oh well, at least it made someone's day.
  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,919 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I call them 'lemonpicks'.
    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
  • Some of my cherrypicks were wrong, but at least I didn't overpay for them.


  • << <i>To my horror the cc mintmark just fell off...



    Too funny. I once dug up a 1909-s Indian cent while metal detecting, and while removing the heavy crust and corrosion around the mint mark area with a pocket knife, the corroded mint mark just flaked off the coin. I don't think it was fake, just heavily oxidized, and there it went down the drain. My local coin dealer laughed until he was blue in the face. Oh well, at least it made someone's day. >>



    I learned that same lesson the hard way...
    I dug up an 1904-s dime UNC details. I decided to scrape away dirt with my fingernail... S mint just fell off.... oh well win some and lose some.
  • halfcentmanhalfcentman Posts: 1,498 ✭✭✭
    The problem with the pedagogy of cherrypicking is that you need to focus on the attributes of common coins so the rarer ones stick out (unless the rare attributes are so glaring that they cannot be ignored).

    Your eye will want to see what it wants to see, and that is how mistakes are made.
  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That has not happened to me... however, early in my collecting career, I do know I passed up some good coins/prices because I was unsure of their authenticity. Cheers, RickO
  • partagaspartagas Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭
    I have paid double what the coin was worth, but nothing more then a $100 loss on anyone item. Still hate to lose money but I don't feel terrible about any of my blunders.
    If I say something in the woods, and my wife isn't around. Am I still wrong?

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