1901 Morgan DDR cherry-pick now in hand!

mbogoman

OK, my prematurely announced Ebay cherry-pick from the other night is now in my hands. For those of you that missed my original post, well, let’s just say that I was fortunate to pick up this nice looking, unattributed 1901 Morgan DDR from one of the biggest Ebay Power Seller coin dealers for a pretty good price (understatement). In hand, it is less lustrous than in the pic, but since I already knew it had been cleaned from the obv pic, a minor disappointment. Overall, very light, even wear – had it not been cleaned I think it would have gone AU53 +- .

The lesson has been learned – temper the joy of sharing the successful treasure hunt and instead go have a beer to celebrate – alone. In other words, don’t talk about anything until it’s firmly and irretrievably in your hands, if at all...

Cheers to all!

Tdec1000

Nice!!

ricko

Nice find.... too bad about the cleaning, but still a neat coin. Cheers, RickO

DCW

Whoa, there, buddy guy! Did you say you cherrypicked some misfortunate eBay power screwer less knowledgeable than you? Well then, harumph. Make sure you contact the eBay seller after calculating the difference between what you paid and what it's worth, and send them a check. Afterall, its only ethical.
Kidding of course, nice score!

greghansen

Very nice find. You certainly won't get hurt in that one.

al410

WOW really nice example of DDR, nice find
AL

HighRelief

Nice score

DorkGirl

Nice!!

crypto79

great find and a mid range AU coin with some luster still esp on the Rev and a 4 figure coin for sure, next time wait till you have it in hand before posting. Just a little friendly advice

halfcentman

<< <i>Whoa, there, buddy guy! Did you say you cherrypicked some misfortunate eBay power screwer less knowledgeable than you? Well then, harumph. Make sure you contact the eBay seller after calculating the difference between what you paid and what it's worth, and send them a check. Afterall, its only ethical.
Kidding of course, nice score! >>



He owes the seller absolutely nothing. You have zero obligation to tell a seller, nor should you. You used your knowledge to make a score, which in turn compensates for the many times that you most likely screwed up.

However, your big mistake here is telling us the origin of your purchase. If the seller of the coin is on this board, you are rubbing it in his face. Even if s/he is not, then anyone can contact the seller by doing a completed listings search, contact them, and tell them what you did.

Congratulation to you, however.

Manorcourtman

<< <i>great find and a mid range AU coin with some luster still esp on the Rev and a 4 figure coin for sure, next time wait till you have it in hand before posting. Just a little friendly advice >>



I don't want to see a mention of getting a lawyer if the seller doesn't deliver due to being tipped off by someone!!

mbogoman

<< <i>However, your big mistake here is telling us the origin of your purchase. If the seller of the coin is on this board, you are rubbing it in his face. Even if s/he is not, then anyone can contact the seller by doing a completed listings search, contact them, and tell them what you did. >>



Are there enough people with a sour grape attitude that would actually do this? Jeez, if I would have known that, I wouldn't have posted. And I don't think I'm rubbing anyone's face in anything. I would be surprised to see the seller risk a neg in this situation because that is surely what the result would be. I'm pulling the pictures and deleting my post.

Thanks for the kudos from those who left them.

Cheers,

halfcentman

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<< <i>However, your big mistake here is telling us the origin of your purchase. If the seller of the coin is on this board, you are rubbing it in his face. Even if s/he is not, then anyone can contact the seller by doing a completed listings search, contact them, and tell them what you did. >>



Are there enough people with a sour grape attitude that would actually do this? Jeez, if I would have known that, I wouldn't have posted. And I don't think I'm rubbing anyone's face in anything. I would be surprised to see the seller risk a neg in this situation because that is surely what the result would be. I'm pulling the pictures and deleting my post.

Thanks for the kudos from those who left them.

Cheers, >>



Part of the art of cherrypicking is keeping your source unknown. Many sellers would risk a negative feedback if they sold you a $5K coin for $455 (just an example), blocked you as a bidder, and relisted the coin.

I, for one, would not as I would look at it as you using your superior knowledge to your advantage. As a former blackjack card counter, I did the same thing to casinos for 10 years.

mbogoman

Updated OP.

Rampage

I cherrypicked my 1901 DDR several years ago now. It is PCGS graded VF30. I bought it raw as a VF for $55 or so. It was in the dealer's case unattributed as well. Good pick up. 'Tis too bad about the cleaning though. Still nice.

options26

That is a major score - congrats. If I was paying attention you surely would have paid more. Great find. Jim

DCW

Doubling is pretty bold. Hard to understand why a major dealer would miss something like that, but varieties aren't everybody's cup of tea.
Part of the joy in this hobby is relating the story of a great buy. Don't keep things like this to yourself, despite what the peanut gallery here says. Congratulations on a nice cherrypick!

LanceNewmanOCC

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nice pick at a nice price
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surprised vette didn't get that one
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coinkat

congrats

morgansforever

Nice doubling on the feathers, very pronounced.
Sweet score mbogoman.

coindeuce

I've met and done business with a lot of dollar variety collectors, many of whom have a misguided application of their "superior " knowledge. Many of them only find satisfaction in knowing that they "slipped one under the radar", and nothing more. Usually those who collect them with a goal in mind, in particular the goal of assembling a set or subset of VAM's, are the collectors that actually care about the hobby and find satisfaction in that process without the need to gloat. Since the OP emphasized his experience about this particular "pick" without detailing any further involvement in variety collecting, I'll assume him to be in the former category. Hope it works for him.

rec78

Nice pick-- you don't see many of those. I think that a lot of people,even dealers,do not even know about this variety.

Justlooking

That is a nice one. Were the photos that large, or did you have to go on a hunch? Good pickup.

mbogoman

<< <i>I've met and done business with a lot of dollar variety collectors, many of whom have a misguided application of their "superior " knowledge. Many of them only find satisfaction in knowing that they "slipped one under the radar", and nothing more. Usually those who collect them with a goal in mind, in particular the goal of assembling a set or subset of VAM's, are the collectors that actually care about the hobby and find satisfaction in that process without the need to gloat. Since the OP emphasized his experience about this particular "pick" without detailing any further involvement in variety collecting, I'll assume him to be in the former category. Hope it works for him. >>



I confess, I can’t appreciate the minute die varieties that make up 99% of the VAM world – for Pete’s sake, with my eyes I can’t even see the majority of them! No, I’m just a lowly collector who finds some of the more mainstream varieties pretty cool. I picked up a 90 CC Tailbar a while back and I’m still searching for an 88 O Scarface (that one is tops on my list now). I had been looking for an 01 DDR for quite a while and had been outbid more than once. I was pretty stoked when I won. I’m sorry if that offended anyone.

mbogoman

<< <i>That is a nice one. Were the photos that large, or did you have to go on a hunch? Good pickup. >>



Thank you. The photos were that large, so it was pretty obvious to anyone looking for it. There were a couple of other bidders who recognized it for what it was, but neither of them put in last minute bids, much to my delight.

seanq

<< <i>That is a nice one. Were the photos that large, or did you have to go on a hunch? Good pickup. >>




Based on the pics provided, I'm pretty sure I know the seller, since his backgrounds are consistent and distinctive. He does provide excellent images, and while he will occasionally attribute his stuff, I've picked a few variety coins from him as well. Excellent pick-up, and thanks for giving me something else to look for.


Sean Reynolds

seanq

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<< <i>I've met and done business with a lot of dollar variety collectors, many of whom have a misguided application of their "superior " knowledge. Many of them only find satisfaction in knowing that they "slipped one under the radar", and nothing more. Usually those who collect them with a goal in mind, in particular the goal of assembling a set or subset of VAM's, are the collectors that actually care about the hobby and find satisfaction in that process without the need to gloat. Since the OP emphasized his experience about this particular "pick" without detailing any further involvement in variety collecting, I'll assume him to be in the former category. Hope it works for him. >>



I confess, I can’t appreciate the minute die varieties that make up 99% of the VAM world – for Pete’s sake, with my eyes I can’t even see the majority of them! No, I’m just a lowly collector who finds some of the more mainstream varieties pretty cool. I picked up a 90 CC Tailbar a while back and I’m still searching for an 88 O Scarface (that one is tops on my list now). I had been looking for an 01 DDR for quite a while and had been outbid more than once. I was pretty stoked when I won. I’m sorry if that offended anyone. >>




You have nothing to apologize for, and the post quoted above yours was way out of line. Saying you don't care about the hobby because you're cherrypicking varieties you don't actively collect is about as ridiculous a statement as I've read here in quite some time. Some people simply enjoy the thrill of the hunt, while others strive for completeness and are quite content to let others do the hunting. Saying one approach is "superior" to the other smacks of sour grapes. I'll assume the initial poster is a dealer who got cherrypicked and had his nose rubbed in it (not that I'm condoning that, BTW).

In fact I'll take it one step further and say that as a cherrypicker, I get just as much satisfaction placing a coin with one of those goal-oriented set collectors as I do in finding the coin in the first place. I'm not a Seated dime collector by any stretch of the imagination, but I still actively search for a few varieties. A few years ago I cherrypicked a rare coin, which I then sold to one of the leading Seated dime specialists for his reference collection. Yes I found satisfaction in realizing a profit on the coin, but that paled against the satisfaction I realized in locating it in the first place, in seeing what nobody else could see, and even that paled against the satisfaction I still get when I go to that specialist's website and read the story about how long he looked for that coin and how thrilled he was to acquire it.

The practice and ethics of cherrypicking have been debated to death in this forum, it disappoints and saddens me to see the attitude of the OP above still prevailing.


Sean Reynolds

Yukoncornelius1

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<< <i>However, your big mistake here is telling us the origin of your purchase. If the seller of the coin is on this board, you are rubbing it in his face. Even if s/he is not, then anyone can contact the seller by doing a completed listings search, contact them, and tell them what you did. >>



Are there enough people with a sour grape attitude that would actually do this? Jeez, if I would have known that, I wouldn't have posted. And I don't think I'm rubbing anyone's face in anything. I would be surprised to see the seller risk a neg in this situation because that is surely what the result would be. I'm pulling the pictures and deleting my post.

Thanks for the kudos from those who left them.

Cheers, >>



Unfortunately yes there are people here who will do it. I say congrat's for taking the time and doing your homework and to anyone who lays the holier than thou attitude on you simply ignore them because this happened to me on this forum in a previous life.

johnny9434

nice score ( bummer about the cleaning but just the same )

SamByrd

very well done. Great pick up. Dramatic DDR very good example.